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Reddit is finally entirely dead to me

16h 14m ago by lemmy.world/u/Suck_on_my_Presence in mildlyinfuriating

I was on reddit every day for damn near 20 years, and if I'm being 100% honest, the fediverse is 10,000% better. The only problem is that not enough people interact. I've never seen a post with more than like 200 comments. It feels a bit empty here. But, on the other hand, 200 decent comments is better than 2000 shitty ones.

Once this place gets a few more users, it's gonna be the GOAT.

Careful what you wish for, the larger the sample size the dumber it gets

Yep. Happened with bluesky. It was pretty decent and wasn't getting any troll crap that was rampant on Twitter. Then there was some controversy on Twitter and Blue sky quickly went up in its new members and...yep, it just got all trolly and agro 🙄

Personally I just miss when we had individual sites for a topic like when I was a teenager. Grew up on forums for a certain artist and another different site for specific sports teams, books. Way less likely to get idiots if you actually have to actively find the specific website for an artist you hate.

I loved forums. I have a group of friends I met on a forum and we rarely talk about that subject anymore but we're still really close.

Maybe it will go back to this. I say that because there is a comeback of personal web pages from 00's

This... People keep dreaming of reddit crashing and burning or going under but, realistically if that did happen a good portion of the existing userbase will filter into the fediverse somewhere, and thats a lot of inorganic growth. Currently there are a handful of popular topics, and some niche topics. Yes there are also reddit like mannerisms but, when people slowly filter in, the room can be read and the existing culture remains, when a mass intake happens (like what happend with the API debacle) the influx is faster than the adoption and the culture comes with it.

ikr soon as this place gets too big I'm taking off to something else.

We're already getting bots and trolls and the mods often do nothing about them.

Fedi being way slower than Reddit was a godsend to me. It helped me detox from the endless content on Reddit because I was going loopy.

After the 5th scroll past the same boring hornypost I'm like "ugh I guess I'll put the phone down and go to sleep."

i usually visit identifying unknown plant (it was fun since i was able to see people post rare and unusual plants that are very rarely seen by normally)and animal subs, because politics post is designed to get people to be angry and comment.

I need to find a client that does paginating instead of infinite scroll. It's like a fucking vortex, I can't pull myself away from it...

While I agree, there are plenty of chill subreddits that are full of interaction and the counterparts here aren't very active. I know that it's up to us to start creating the posts but I'm more of a lurker and replier.

I prefer the fewer comments here. Who want's to read 1200+ comments, 50% of which are the same tired jokes?

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And my axe!

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I agree with you. Coming up on at least my second year here and I do love it, but I miss some parts of having the bigger crowd.

I think it's fine as is. The worst part of reddit was opening an interesting post and finding the comments full of jokes and badly remembered quotes.

Edit: That was probably due to the awards creating perverse incentives but still, the more comments there are the more striking a comment needs to be to be on top

It had a lot more with being first to comment than it did about the quality of your comment. After about 100 comments your chances of being near the top were pretty much gone.

reddit was better before 2016, before trump took the white house the first time, almost as soon as took the WH, russia realized that reddit was a good place to use bots/propaganda, then we see sudden increase in politicl aposts, and then ban of "Questionable" subs. orignially because of this you would make different account for different niches to avoid a ban affecting other accounts.

I absolutely fell in love with reddit when I joined 19 years ago. Up until the Digg migration I loved it maybe even more than the BBS' I was on in my youth. But it steadily went downhill from there, and I thank Jebus every day for the fediverse because it brings back that good old energy that I was missing. Reddit is so unpleasant compared to here.

I'm new, came over a couple weeks ago. Others will come.

Welcome!

Its better this way. Limited content. You have to out the phone down and do something else

Onze this place gets enough users, it's gonna be exactly the same.

It's a loss, but I've come to see it as just a part of the endless treadmill of 1. Go to where the cool people are 2. Uncool people show up 3. It gets bad 4. Look for the cool people. Feels like that's always going to be the way of it.

Always has been.

The Situationists even created new words to describe how radical ideas are co-opted by the mainstream in ways that reduce or outright removing radicalism from the ideas, making them more palatable for mainstream society. They called it recuperation. They also argued we needed to be doing the opposite, and taking the banal and making it radical, which they called détournement. This was often exemplified in the 80s/90s/early 2000s through subversion and revision of corporate advertising, often called "culture jamming."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recuperation_(politics)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A9tournement

I'm always happy when people bring that up, it happens too rarely. I was exposed to Discordianism as a kid, which is kind of the Idiot's Guide version of culture jamming. I didn't come across Guy Debord until later, when I'd already made up my mind that everything about mainstream society needed to be subverted. Sadly, it seems I'm not very good at it.

Don't worry, Debord didn't think he was either! He actually thought that his Situationist writing would be forgotten and that he would be remembered for his (ironically now forgotten) board game Kriegspiel. Instead Society of the Spectacle is now considered an important piece of French culture and history.

That is oddly uplifting, as a failed game designer as well.

Yes. That's a good thing.

It's almost like we're suppose to build and guard our communities and interest against tho...... sorry I meant do nothing and complain.

Support your local federated instance, hold mods and admins to task, get to know people in your community, report trolls and push to defederate instances run poorly or in bad faith. If that ends up not being enough, fuck I dunno.

get to know people in your community

Sup

I've been seeing this for a long time now, as they blocked VPN and anonymous access, so I use a combination of cached pages and libredirect if I really want to bother going there.

I always thought that once I moved here, I might still visit reddit but I almost never do. And much of the reason is those fucking stupid cartoon mascots. "snoo"s iirc? FML.

reddit blocks people who use vpns, or will shadowban you if it somehow evades this page. they are too aware of it now. new devices, proxies, anti-detect browsers+ proxy intergration, new browser, fingerprinting are usually the only other way of getting around it(this method can be pricey if intend to make money off of reddit). apparently some vpns do get through reddit, but you probably shouldnt use the cheap or free ones, or the highly abused ones.

I’ve hit that and just switched IPs on the same VPN. The other VPN I use has never hit the screen.

They did that about a year or so after I blocked reddit via DNS. No idea why, I don't use a VPN for reddit, and I hadent given them any traffic outside the once and awhile checking a tech support post, but something about my network triggered it.

No big loss.

I haven't read a Reddit page since I switched from Protonvpn to Mullvadvpn.

Reddit seems to allow Proton but blocks Mullvad.

Another reason to appreciate Mullvad.

Try an alternative fronted like redlib.catsarch.com for when you really need to view the page. Unfortunately, there is still too much valuable info there, which is surfaced by search engines

Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

I know, I know, reddit sucks ass. I've been using firefox with ublock to read the best ofs for the unquenchable need for bullshit drama in my life.

But now it's not just a pop up saying to use the app, but a full ass unpassable thing. Old Reddit still works, but that's just another step for something that's already so not worthwhile.

Welp...

I got permabanned this morning. Made a joke that automod thought was inciting violence (said people who don't punch their ponies in their face make me sick - not even my joke or a joke but a reference to someone else's joke - in response to someone calling horses disgusting) and all my alts were banned too. Which is fine but I miss my TV show communities a bunch. I like to discuss my stories!

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Start a community here. Be the change you want to see.

I lack diplomacy when I get annoyed.

I assure you, that has stopped nobody here -- especially not the tankies -- do not let it stop you.

What is a tankie?

users from lemmy.ml, hexbear, and lemmygrad who generally believe that Russia, China, and North Korea can do no wrong, among other things. They (usually) correctly criticize the US or its allies for their imperialist actions or atrocities or human rights abuses while simultaneously handwaving away any imperialist actions, atrocities or human rights abuses in those countries as "Western propaganda". It is generally pointless to argue with them, and fortunately as of late the latter two have mostly stayed contained to their respective cesspits -- .ml users, on the other hand, tend to wander about and regularly start whiteknighting for China on other instances.

Generally, you should block those instances and you'll stop seeing posts from their communities, but unfortunately you'll still see their comments. Only solution for that is manually blocking individual users, which is especially true for .ml as the developers of lemmy (who are tankies themselves) have previously tried to position it as a "default" instance, leading to a lot of non-tankies registering there and finding themselves promptly banned for anti-China talk (and there are still lots of non-tankies there so you can't just block them all indiscriminately)

Honestly, based on early interactions I'll probably have to avoid political conversations if I can help it since even people I agree with ideologically seem to irritate the shit out of me. Not all of them, obviously. But enough to have clocked avoiding engaging with certain groups already. I'll just have to know it when I see it.

Awwww shit, here we go again

tankie on lemmy, is people who support authotarian "leftists" basically current russia, NK, CCP, but not the actual communism itself. tankie on reddit is somewhat similar, but its usually refers to the sub, or location that people are defending as a holier than thou subject.

Perfect! Nothing brings more attention than drama. 🤣

Then you have all the qualifications to be a mod!

that is what happened to the purges last year, only need 1 ban/shadowban if any of your other accts even participated in the one you banned it(even if your dormant accounts dint get banned), even temporarily it just shadowbanned it. this was a new tactic reddit used. originally they dint care as long as you wait a long time with a new account before using it.

old reddit still works. I had to install an extension to auto redirect to the old.reddit URL the other day cuz I was troubleshooting something and the ONLY things about it were on Reddit and I noticed that bullshit app advertisement too.

Reddit doesn't like my VPN, so for the times when it comes up in my search or a buddy sends me something from there I have an extension in firefox now to redirect reddit links to redlib.

It's called libredirect. It's got a bunch of sites so you can avoid most of those shitty pop-ups if you set them up.

Better late than never!

Problem is that it's still where so many people are. It's honestly such a shame that more people won't move to lemmy... Because in comparison there's barely anyone here. And the only reason these kinds of websites are useful is that there's a lot of people on them

For research purposes use a frontend like redlib

There's also the Nora app on f-droid.

Majority of the posts on the popular subreddots are written by bots.

the subs that allow pictures, and screenshots, and videos are the most obvious. you can tell they are reposting but they try to obscure when the "tweet' was posted by blacking out the date/time. pics during the election year was so obvious "biden genocide" pics, it wasnt pointing out what trump/gop were supporting too. luckily there was any sense in the mod prior to the massive purges, that it was removed.

It's really bad when you start to see how many bots and astroturfing there is. Accounts with thousands of posts a year stirring up shit in all the contentious threads.

Welcome to the dark side for good and yes, it is better... overall. I've been on Lemmy now since the first mass exodus when I deleted my reddit account of 15+ years.

While Lemmy is now my 'home', I do occasionally visit 3 reddit subs that have no equivalent elsewhere. It just happens and I see nothing wrong with the occasional view. It's not like /u/Spez can monitize my VPN anonymous visit. So don't feel bad if you end up doing the same, Lemmy just doesn't have the same volume.

That's why I just left. You can use the redirect to old Reddit extension, but this is just so fucking dumb.

It's like an extra step, to get access to their ads too. No idea why anyone was paying for ads on Reddit before, but seems more pointless now

finally? since they unilaterally banned people with no ability to appeal because they cant be bothered to "hear all the appeals" its been dead since they use AI moderation. i think thier ban affected the site enough that bots have been the mostly source of "engagement" now. plus spez/musk/gop wants to push a propaganda narrative for reddit, that hasnt fully capitulated like META, and tiktok, youtube.

Anyone else still there? Hopefully they stay there if they're trolls and trilobites (I don't know what that means in this context)

I'm not like actively there but an example, for me, is that I just watched the Hateful Eight and thought it'd be nice to see what others said about it and the main links were Reddit and they hard pushed me to the app. All the other links had ads that actively blocked me from reading the article.

I watched the parody version. The ridiculous 6.

I thought you were making a joke -- holy shit it's real.

I thought they were both sorta parodies of the magnificent seven / seven samurai?

And its a good movie too.

reddit is useful for niches, but not for news, politics(includes any sub that is remotely political) discussion, it just get people too argumentative. like looking at people experiences with dentists in your area, how much it costs and other things.

I mod my city's subreddit and Colonial Williamsburg. And that's it.

No one in my real life left reddit. Reddit and Facebook are the only ones with active communities for many of my games and interests. I avoid it, but yes, it's quite active and is now the only relevant search result on recent news and strategies.

That's sad news. Its a simple decision. Just stop going to reddit.

I never used reddit until one day. And then I stopped sometime later. It may sound ridiculous but its as simple as just logging out and starting a new elsewhere.

Yeah. I deleted my account during the API fiasco. I stopped surfing there entirely. I guess there's also Discord communities that cover gaming bases too, but I struggle with that UI/organizer presentation when it comes to trying to find the right place for the info I need. So take your pick: Facebook, reddit, discord. They're all apparently on the same slippery slope. Classic forums are dead (and no doubt the photo bucket debacle of 2017 pushed that).

But the cool thing is my life get suddenly busier around the same time I kicked reddit, and now I just don't have that kind of time to get into hobbies deep enough to really need those places. Cool. [sad trombone sounds]

true, since i cant login/or have an account due thier purges, i scroll through various subs usually non-political ones. ive seen people on public transports have thier phones out, its mostly reddit, tiktok .

I feel ya.

FWIW I get that pop up on my iphone, but it goes away and proceeds to the site using Safari.

What is this community? First it's all reddit reposts and now it's this

https://f-droid.org/packages/com.cosmos.unreddit

It may stop working at some point

I’ve been on Reddit for 16 years now, it’s just not the same anymore. The only reason I stick around is my local subreddit. I have no interest in Reddit anymore.