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I hate that this is becoming the norm

14h 59m ago by discuss.online/u/VetOfTheSeas in fuckcars from discuss.online

Honestly, this should be a ticket. Parked vehicle outside of a parking spot, obstructing traffic, etc.

"Well what else am I supposed to do?"

Use the truck parking spots.

"But they're far away/nonexistent"

Take a cab or otherwise figure it out.

"What, do you expect society to accommodate your special needs vehicle? You some kind of woke commie?"

Exactly.

Just because your vehicle doesn't fit in parking bays doesn't mean you can just park anywhere you like.

What else is he supposed to do? Use his LEGS?

“Well what else am I supposed to do?”

Don't care, that is your problem. I have a similar response to people complaining about roads not being increased in size because cars are getting larger. The road was here first, you then decided to buy a larger car. Really it seems like a you problem.

yeah, it's too big for the spot

simple

Not for long

These will be pretty rare in 10 years time if things continue the way they are. That said I’m in a country adopting EVs, so YMMV

Ah, yes, because EVs can’t be made into giant ugly trucks

gahh, every time I see a Hummer EV, I think people can't get stupider

Me too.

And then I see a Cybertruck

Yes but, it can crab walk

That’ll happen as well, but at least it’ll be a lot cleaner. I’m still of the mind there’ll be less.

You do have a point though.

10 years? The longer Operation Epstein Fury drags on, these guys will be struggling to gas up in months.

Yeah can’t argue with that

That’s going to hurt too many of the wrong people, unfortunately, for the benefits in the end it will give.

I just hope it doesn’t turn into Kuwait but the whole area.

Yeah, they will get even heavier so you will never see a road without craters in it

Maybe tracked vehicles will come back into fashion. Finally a RAM TANK half-track.

Yeah nah as time goes by it’ll go the other way. Batteries will get lighter as tech improves.

The argument going on about this reminds me of what my grandmother told me about the horse to car transition. Pretty much all the same stuff, including how big they were in comparison to a horse.

Fuckin gold

But people keep buying bigger cars. We are able to build small cars it's just that almost no one is buying them.

Yeah you’re right it sucks. It’s mainly from what I can see, governments building legislation that gives tax breaks for these cars like happens here in Oz or manufacturers using politics to shut out especially smaller and trade EVs from over seas.

You’re right though, however you are

Well for now BEVs are still much heavier than ICE vehicles. It will take decades for them to finally become lighter than ICE vehicles.

In the meantime they’re still significantly cleaner

Some need them, and if we have to have them better they’re electric.

I get piled on every time but no one needs a modern pickup. There is a more suitable vehicle for your needs if you are in trades, and a pickup isn't it. Need people space? Same deal.

What do you suggest for the trades? A van?

Or an older pickup with equivalent bed space and no weight wasted on a second row of passenger seats.

Okay how old? We talking pre 2008? Because anything before that are pigs on fuel, perform significantly worse, and lack of basic saftey features.

Do you have any numbers to attach to those claims?

Efficiency has improved over the decades despite the trucks getting larger: https://carbuzz.com/ford-improved-f-150-fuel-economy-five-decades/ you'll also see how the old inefficient engines had less power than the new more efficient ones.

Electronic Stability Program became mandatory in the US in 2012 and the EU in 2014. I've driven a '05 Grand Cherokee that didn't have it (or even traction control if I remember correctly), though German cars mostly started getting it in late 90s or early 00s. ESP can be an absolute godsend in the winter because unlike your right foot, it can control each wheel's brakes individually to prevent skids.

It's not just trucks, all vehicles have gotten safer and more efficient over time because of regulations that have forced manufacturers to adopt new technologies. I've never heard anyone question this before, as it's so widely known.

You have my thanks, for I did not have the energy for that!

They still make single row ones. We have many at my workplace. Usually tradies that work for larger businesses or local governments use them. Smaller trade businesses generally the dual/super cab ones. They do have their uses but most people don't use them for that purpose.

Ranger XL single cab or Hilux single cab still around. The Holden Colorado was my favourite as someone that did a lot of long drives but that doesn't exist anymore.

At the end of the day, most people want to drive a bigger car because they feel safer when though the bigger vehicles are the problem.

Neat, I'll retract the older part of my comment, if you absolutely need a pickup truck get one of those then. As for the safety thing, I'm aware of it, and I'm also aware of how psychopathic it is. Fuck you for wanting to have any chance of survival when I hit you, I don't want to be hurt at the same time.

Yes, that is what they all use here because its just better. A roof keeps your tools dry and if someone wants to steal it they need to break in rather than just grabbing it.

Where is here? This is just pathetic. You ever load a skid of material/ equipment into a van? It's do able with the right size fork lift I guess, pain in the ass though when you got two skids worth to load unload. How about when you only have a crane avaliable? How about when you have petrol cans / slip tanks to bring to a job site to fill up your crane/ excavator? You think a guy wants those fumes in his cab? Need a dump box for landscape work? Pull of your bed and put one on. Want to get into tow and recovery, pull of your bed and put a tow lift on. Need a flat deck? Guess what you got it for the price of fun. Need a welding rig? Guess what it's right there put the welder in the back and gas bottles. What you gona fill the van cab with exaust fumes from the welder and risk leaking oxy/propane/acetylene into your nice and dry van cab? But hey your shit will be dry right?

Yes, obviously, but they are already making pick up trucks that have a sealable bed. They also have pick ups that have a raised construction on the bed with a roof. Next step is a double door on the rear and they will just be vans again.

I feel like trucks had this shit like 30+ years ago... I'm pretty sure my neighbor growing up had one.

Do you actualy have any real trades experience. Or are you just barking?

Barking? Well I sure seem to have bitten you

It's obscene.

Antisocial behavior

Honestly, even if we ignore how obscenely selfish and un-neighborly this guy is being, even if we assume he only cares about himself and his emotional support vehicle...shouldn't that make him worry about that truck getting hit by someone driving by? How many times is he going to lose his truck's bumper because he parks it with the nose sticking halfway through the travel lane?

I suggest vehicle length and width limits for parking lots. Parking fines for those who exceed them, and make the fines bigger the more the vehicle exceeds it.

At least where I live, vehicle technical data is publicly available by license plate, so it'd be trivial to implement too. The Europark guys will literally stand around and wait for your parking clock to expire if you stay for 2 minutes too long, how about they do something more useful instead.

Either it'll make people reconsider driving these large beasts in the city, or the owners of the parking lots get extra revenue. Either way at least it'll cost the giant truck owners money.

With gas prices, they're screwed...

Diesel probably gets 1200km +- 200km per full tank approx 120L tank size. So 240$ cad for a full tank. It's still nothing compared to the new imports using turbo 4s and having to put in premium. Because of the NOx reduction legislation.

Time to make zig zag stiles for parking garages. Narrow turn opening in fence

I absolutely hate these people parking in garages. I'm sorry but that shit is just absolutely unnecessary.

I bet that paint scratches easily

Those tyres aren't flat either. I wonder how that can be rectified...

This, but in traffic unsafely blocking my left line of sight so I can't safely do anything until they take their sweet time trying to go.

...At least during a turn I can "use" them as protected cover.

Only in the US lol

Happens in Australia too though I think in Victoria you are meant to put out witches hats if your car is in the street

Lol you mean VLC icons?

That's the ones

Dinosaurs once were the norm, too .