TIL that the worst driver in New York City likes to drive around in Brooklyn. He received 259 speeding tickets and paid over $60,000 in fines.
1d 16h ago by feddit.uk/u/NomNom in til from www.bkreader.com
So they haven't revoked his license and impounded everything he drives because...?
Edit: oh it's because he's not poor.
New York even has a points system that results in license revocation if they build up. Sounds like they simply aren't using it. A bunch of the speeders also haven't paid their tickets, which also should result in license revocation.
NYC seems to be willfully incompetent.
Most states don't apply points for camera fines because the camera cannot identify who was driving. The laws are different vs fines issued by police.
In the UK, they write to the registered keeper of the vehicle to ask who was driving.
If the keeper doesn’t respond or doesn’t know who was driving then they get the fine and points themselves.
That seems reasonable.
You could also theoretically have a system that confiscated a car once it has accumulated X points, no matter who was driving. I bet you'd be careful to whom you lend your car, and would teach your teens strictly!
I mean, these jackasses are probably funding a sizeable chunk of the city with that many tickets...
Its about $230 per ticket. If they get them from cameras and don't fight them the city probably comes out on top. If it's cops pulling them over and they fight in court the profits evaporate pretty quick.
And you think that would stop him?
If he kept getting caught, then he'd wind up in prison. Judges get really mad when you just ignore them.
This is why other countries have day fines. If fines were proportional to income, wealthy people couldn't just keep swatting them like mosquitoes.
It also seems like people have figured out the limitations of camera fines and how they have no effect on your license.
The other five have paid off little or none, and owe, on average, $19,400 each — a total of $97,000, the data revealed.
The article states a bunch of the fines aren't even paid; the fuck is NYC doing?
Most state laws around camera fines are way softer than those from tickets issued by people. For one a camera cannot identify the driver of the vehicle so it's not technically a traffic violation on anyone's license, it's a fine levied against the owner of the vehicle.
These laws restrict what actions they can take against the vehicle owner because there's no proof they were driving.
If you have no idea who's using your car to break laws repeatedly, shouldn't it be impounded?
Weird how a photograph wouldn't be able to identify a driver... sure, you can cast doubt, but unless you're wearing a mask it still should hold up in court...?
The camera isn't always facing the front of the vehicle, and even when it is, glare on the windscreen can obscure the driver.
Your first point absolutely stands though
I thought the idea was that I'm the USA you have the right to face your accuser in a court of law. If a citation is issued automatically, who is your accuser? (I AM NOT DEFENDING THIS POSITION.)
Is this guy the worst driver? 259 citations for speeding and no mention of any accidents despite frequently exceeding safe travel speed?
I'm not saying this should be ignored — I just object to the title. Surely there is at least one worse driver.
In a sense, if he can speed that often and never be involved in an accident, he might be a very good driver.
My mom is a significantly worse driver. She never speeds, but sometimes she drives so slowly on the highway that she's a danger to other drivers. In addition, many times, she has damaged her car trying to maneuver in an underground parking garage. AFAIK she has never been in an accident where someone was injured, so there are worse drivers out there.
Maybe - and hear me out - he shouldn't be allowed to drive.
I vote we give him 5 licenses and start cloning him.
While it's definitely a source of income that could be used for the betterment of New York City, alternatively you could always just tax the kind of assholes who can afford to pay $60k in fines for the privilege of potentially turning somebody into a smear.
Yo we almost there
So many pedestrians would be in trouble come Manhattan. The roads just not big enough for 5 of them
Revoke their license. Scale fines with wealth. Mandate thousands of hours of community service for speeders. Don't just do nothing and hope it sorts itself out.
My ex was a nepo baby. He had so many speeding tickets. Didn’t give a shit about playing video games on his phone while driving. Fines don’t work when you could spend that same amount on a weeknight dinner without blinking.
When the previous mayor is an ex dirty cop they just ignore the points to keep filling those quotas
primary source: https://transalt.org/press-releases/like-shooting-a-gun-into-a-crowd-just-10-drivers-threaten-25-million-new-yorkers-according-to-new-data-from-transportation-alternatives-and-families-for-safe-streets
Last year's report: https://transalt.org/reports-list/yn29thckywv9n0qpsv4jb1ab07nryp
Still the best driver in any other state.