If all us men died on Nov 24 thr world would be a better place.

That fact will never leave me. I honestly hate myself for existing.

Even 100 years ago there was social pressure on young men to learn how to behave properly. Being kicked out of the local church meant that you couldn't hang with your friends and would probably have to leave town.

Today, you can spend 20 hours a day online, hearing exactly what you want to hear.

I'm an old man and still dumb as fuck. But at least I believe in equality. Dunno what's wrong with the young dudes, they need to get a grip.

People should not be allowed to have sons or have some population control on men. I honestly zero hope of things not getting worse.

Wow that changes a lot about the title.

Taking it at face value you’d walk away thinking this is the dominant attitude in most of the western world, when that’s not the takeaway at all. A title like that just makes most men and women think their country is more conservative than previously thought. Talk about not helping young people that have more balanced views.

I'd love to see a similar study by US state. My guess is that either Mississippi or Utah would be towards the top.

Thanks for putting it in such concise words.

I am an embedded developer so the LLM/AI is a omni-present talking point and one of my friends was saying that he loved LLMs because they could generate big chunks of code and he can go through it after and fix the mistakes.

He has the skills to fix the issues because he has a decade of non-LLM experience.

But someone that doesn't have that experience will have a hard time finding the correct fix when the vibe code isn't working as it should. They will rely on LLM telling them that they were right, so here is a new fix that doesn't fix the issue.

I agree to a certain extent, but also would point out that the longer something exists, the more likely it is to be exploited by capital and then just be objectively worse. A lot of the good things are still there, just pushed aside and hidden by people with ulterior motives. Plenty of queer youth still find a lot of community and comfort online when it's absent in their lives. There is definitely something to be said about how things shape people vs how people shape things though.

Then come the “saviors” of the internet that blame it on illegal aliens, women having rights etc because according to their logic we had it good in the 70s so we must reverse everything back to the way it was in 70s.

The problem isnt just the "saviors" and their message. Those people have always existed, always had the same blaming strategy. The problem is that the internet has made it easier for those messages to reach a global audience, has made the messenger faceless and unaccountable and given the presumption of legitimacy, has made it easier to get absorbed into isolated communities saturated in this kind of messaging, and made it easier to warp the worldview of the community to something antithetical to reality. If you run into a dude saying wacky shit in a bar, and he just seems to be some drunk asshole, you're not likely to give him much credence against all of the other messaging around you. But if you find an entire community saying the things he says, and they welcome you in, and you get a sense of comradery and purpose from it, that same messaging holds a lot of sway over you.

Isolation has always been the secret sauce to radicalization. Exposure is the antidote. Humans have always had cultural feedback loops that reinforce a specific worldview. And meeting with other cultures often causes conflicts when those worldview collide. The promise of the internet was a more global culture wherein we have a shared reinforced world view. But that didn't really happen for everyone. What we are seeing now is that same feedback loop phenomenon in a digital space, but often with dramatically different worldviews, even within the same local physical space. That still causes conflict when those communities collide, both online and in the real world, but now that conflict happens everywhere, even in your own household sometimes.

We're losing physical communities, friends and family for our online echo chamber communities. People are definitely driven more into those digital communities as their physical life is more of a struggle financially, socially, etc. Relieving those struggles would certainly go a long way in remediating the problem, but it won't go away.

I mean, I watch YouTube all the time, way more than TV these days. Some of that involves politics yes, but mostly it's just pretty innocuous. Science, technology, books, comics, gaming, D&D, sketch comedy, standup, animation, movie reviews, food, cooking, history, etc. By far the most political thing I watch on YouTube is Some More News, and it's admittedly pretty rage inducing sometimes. But most of my viewing is just wholesome, nerdy, and/or makes me hungry. I don't really live by the algorithm though. I primarily watch people I've specifically subscribed to.

Idk, dipshit feels more appropriate. "Hey dipshit, sometimes you have to pay attention to the meaning over the words when your wife is expressing how she feels about you"

It’s not like he said it to her in my presence. The guy wants to ruin his marriage that’s his business, I got my own issues.

You appear to be linking to my own (later) comment

I separated them because to me they are different (related) points and I don't particularly enjoy seeing people make multiple points when I only agree with one of them. I was also curious how many people agreed we shouldn't be linking journalism that doesn't link to the original study

Ok that's really concerning because it means far right messaging is increasingly hitting girls, who had previously not been as hit by it.

To be fair, I don't go out much, but that's partly because I'm in the middle of nowhere and there's like nothing out here. On dating apps the men I see pretty much always have their political views set to conservative or moderate.

I did go to a bar in the cities once and I did meet a guy I liked there but nothing ever came of it. I do get the impression that men in the cities are likely much better than where I live, but I haven't spent much time in the cities though.

I am also thinking about when I was in highschool, specifically a yeehaw highschool, and my impression was that most guys would rather eat crayons than pay attention in class. Those guys also had loser flags on their trucks despite us being in a northern union state, and there were a lot of them. Though I did have some guy friends who were chill, I felt like they were in the minority.

I love animals. That is what we are. What I do not love is this pervasive delusion that all human animals are people. They are not.

The transcendental values that separate people from the other animals are not universally instantiated. Some humans are cruel. They do not care about what is true or moral. They are not subhuman. In many ways, they’re only human, their potential personhood vitiated by a lack moral and intellectual agency.

Do you got a solution? Or are we just going to flood them with more 'man bad' buzzwords tonkeep pushing them away? These people are going to get us killed and there is no solution.