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We deserve better psyops.

1d 22h ago by lemmy.world/u/return2ozma in politicalmemes

Leave Britney alone!

Too late

Please don't make fun of the mentally ill.

Ive never been physically attractive but I kinda identify with Britneys journey. Like there was so much hope and opportunity in 2002 and now im just... tired and sad in my bones.

This meme resonates with me not because I find her situation funny, but because I also feel broken.

also she looks a lot happier with two knives

I agree this is very unfair on the US Government it’s not their fault they are mentally disabled.

The sad part is they're not even trying, and it's apparently fine, we never needed propaganda or psyops at all, turns out you can just take over the whole country and launch meaningless wars and steal ALL the money and nobody will do anything about it.

Just imagine how silly all those Bush 2 era ghouls feel. All that effort spent faking evidence for WMDs, faking a presentation to the UNSC, months and months of effort spent manufacturing consent.

Turns out you can just skip all of that.

What an extra generation or 20 years of right-wing propaganda can accomplish.

To borrow from the enemies own lexicon: if we don't turn off their cathedral, the mechanisms on which their ideology are dependent on for survival, they're going to destroy the world.

Seriously where is the “peace in the Middle East” quasi mtv bootstraps for the children?

Back in the day will smith was rapping about how this shit matters…

Now a majority apparently disagrees with the current shit yet media is totally silent.

Straight captured…

Liberal order across the globe is dying, the reasons are complicated but a lot has to do with the spread of information... and misinformation, and the capacity for capital to reach people directly and influence whole populations via technology.

I'm sure smarter people than myself are researching this to a much greater degree than myself, but I was vindicated at least when Mark Carney spoke at the WEF and gave an absolutely insanely blunt message, which paraphrased said basically "The old illusions of order are fading, the cruel will now prey on the weak."

Our "first world" nations are now a part of this feeding frenzy as different factions scrabble for power and control over select ideological groups, not physical borders. As a result, the old traditions of activism and collective action are being replaced by cynicism and nihilism as more and more people realize how little control they really have, and only want to stay in their bubble-universes.

Will Smith isn't going to rap about an issue that a marketable segment of the population might not agree with, not when AI can be used to make Will Smith rap about anything you personally want to hear, or just be made eat ALL the spaghetti for your entertainment. The market is the last power standing. Our world going forward, until it breaks, is just a world of markets fighting each other and there is no rule system or international law to reign it in. They ARE the international law.

We have about a century of techno-feudalism ahead, and not the cool kind where you get hands that turn into swords and shit, it's more the kind where society slowly declines, people live in shanties and eco-refugees flood across the world until the markets finally collapse and are replaced by something else. By that time, it will probably go one of two directions: worldwide collapse back to a weird mixture of iron-age warbands and pockets of ultra-high-tech castes living in corporate fortress-states, or something like super-AI will just shred everything we know into an unrecognizable world.

I disagree. Russification isn't inevitable. Organize. The current leaders in the US are blatently hostile to the working class. Find a middle ground with your class and start building a movement from the grass roots, starting with your hometown.

Now a majority apparently disagrees with the current shit yet media is totally silent.

NPR just said over 60% of Americans oppose this war. How is that totally silent?

Edit: You somehow know the majority disagrees. What silent media did you learn this from?

leave her alone

Just tell them Jesus wants them to kill brown people (who are closer to him in ethnicity and, much more importantly, belief than the average American Trinitarian, lol) and they won't question shit. Real men kill random people on the other side of the world!

soldiers were lectured that this is a holy war, Trump was anointed by Jesus and this will lead to Armageddon

Yeah, I heard. 😔

Morals and the teachings of Jesus, and Trinitarian faiths, have been disassociated pretty much since forever (Jesus was not a Roman Catholic, after all), but this is some next level shit. Or, perhaps, not really... I bet Richard the Lionheart told his crusaders the same shit.

Doubt Jesus would be cool with double tap bombings on schools and hospitals.

Pretty much everyone besides maniacal psychos wouldn't be cool with it, Jesus would flip the fuck out.

The fact that convincing people that a failed prophet would want them to commit murder is a viable strategy is such a stark indictment of religion in general.

Idk if I agree with all of that, but it's at least an indictment of those who act that way and whatever their beliefs are (if they have any besides "blood for the blood god"). 🤷

What psyops? The panel on the right should be blank, they are not doing any.

Is the left photo AI? Something seems wrong with the top.

Photo manipulation existed before AI. Before computers even.

Wait til the youngin's learn where "cut" and "paste" come from

Well duh, phones existed before computers

Cover of the Rolling Stone from May 25th 2000 showing the image in question

Nope, unless they had AI back in May 2000.

now I want to know the state of gay politics in 2000.

There wasn't much. I'm not gay but I remember it was THE huge scapegoat issue that was literally destroying America with earthquakes and hurricanes before everyone got tired of it and kind of accepted it and then we had gay marriage a few years later...

But those trans people now... 😤

wonder who they'll scapegoat 20 years from now

If we're on the same track we are on now? UNMARRIED WOMEN!!!* Gasp! Shudder!

*

spoiler

Where women are defined as being over the age of 14.

Whatever it is would be regarded as absurd today and you'd be called a troll for even suggesting it.

2000 version: "You're hurting the gay rights movement by suggesting they're a slippery slope to trannies in the ladies room."

trans people existed then. it was not a big deal, besides a sitcom gimick.

my mother called me with a new moral panic about... furries, the new thing that scares her...

britney spears, rolling stone photoshoot, 2000

long before AI, in the days of old, we had photo editing

A lot of people are using upscaling and way too many phone filters to update old photos.

Someone gave me a t-shirt of a movie poster from the '80's. I guess they started with a web search results image of the poster and upscaled it so much that the final result ended up looking like first gen AI slop.

We were very new to digital photo editing back then. the airbrushing was real.

I got such a long lecture on using retarded the other day. But this is cool I guess.

Apparently you need another.

Stop using disabilities as insults.

Oh I guess this flew right over your head? 🤷‍♂️

How about if you have to throw a punch, punching up? The mentally ill and developmentally disabled are not people you should target, for sure.

Guys, I can't believe this has to be explicitly stated.

You're making fun of a mentally ill woman having a very public breakdown which is honestly uncomfortable to watch. Amazing how this is lost on everyone.

yet you still use slurs,

I'll argue all day using retarded to demonstrate the depravity and irony of this shitty thread is far less offensive than putting a woman who was sexualized as a child in arguably the peak Hollywood abusing children period and now going through a horrifically nightmare ish breakdown.

I'll stand and soapbox all day on the deplorables nature of this post all day with whatever language I feel like.

She's going to kill herself one day, you mark my words. I hope you all feel good you didn't use the word though.

those are 2 unrelated issues. the existence of one has nothing to do the other.

sucks how we collectively bullied Britney. and she is still suffering the consequences of that.

but that doesn't mean dropping slurs is ok. Fuck using ableistic slurs is part of the problem.

want to complain about how annoying the euphemism treadmill is, go ahead, but that's a different conversation, and dropping slurs (besides quoting them as examples) is also not ok.

i think it's the lack of quotation marks, that makes people think you use the actual word

I think that most (painting with a wide brush) folks on forums don't actually care about punching down or up. If it aligns with someone they agree it's hahahaha without any criticism allowed. In this case, retarded has been drilled into their heads as some dirty word and the mere utterance stirs them up. But making fun of a sexualized child star going through a very real and public breakdown, nah that's cool.

One idiot in here actually told me to punch up with no irony.

This isn't just a critique of this place. The Internet in general is a terrible place to expect the vast majority of people to consider what they say. My sarcasm and pointing it out only sitrs the pot.

In my line of work, I have to sit in on a lot of meetings that discuss industrial accidents and incidents. Presenters in these meetings typically have spent weeks or months meticulously dissecting the incident, finding root causes, developing and implementing mitigations, and drafts for proposed changes to policy and process to prevent another occurrence. The meetings are intended to be a high-level review of the materials before sending the entire report to org leadership.

However, there's always at least one person in the meeting that raises their hand/unmutes during the presentation just to point out in an accusatory tone exactly how and why the incident occurred. Whatever thing that person is bringing up is just a slide or two away, and is already included in the analysis, along with mitigations and process changes drafted during the previous weeks' investigation. Some people will just never miss an opportunity to tell others that they would never have made such a crude, easily avoidable mistake, not on their watch.

Rarely, a commenter in these meetings does make an excellent point and adds new insights or suggestions. Regardless if the comments were useful or inane, my responses typically fall along the same line: "Thank you. You are right, and I will address this in coming slides/bring this back to the team for consideration." It leaves the commenter feeling like they have contributed to the discussion, whether that's true or not.

I take the same approach with comments where the only purpose is to tell me how I've made a crude mistake. But rarely, someone does say something that gives me something to take back with me. Specifically, I too was once called out for using the word "retarded." The poster who called me out wasn't exactly rude, and they didn't insult me back, but I still felt taken aback because that word is one that I grew up with, and I know my intent wasn't to insult people with disabilities, so I didn't understand why using it made me seem like a bad person.

I thought about it for a while and realized that the language we use to describe things often does a poor job of conveying what we actually mean. When we use words like “insane,” “psychotic,” or other terms that originated in psychology or mental institutions, we are not just misattributing whatever behavior we are describing. We are also revealing an implicit bias.

We may not be directly insulting people with disabilities, but continuing to use that language still carries a message. It suggests that we either do not know more accurate words, or that we have accepted a habit of speech that quietly devalues disabled people. In that sense, it places them in the same rhetorical position as the people invoked by the phrase “I’m not a racist, but…”; they become the quiet exception, the ones implicitly treated as “one of the good ones.”

You should punch up though.

(I agree this britney meme is trash)

I honestly do most of the time and I certainly do in the vast majority i of environments.

But as stated, I'm more than happy to piss off some folks with examples thrown in their face so they can't avoid it. 

I know you've stated you disagree but think this is trash.... But I honestly think she's going to kill herself in some sick South Park way and I hope these fucks remember their attitudes while being preachy and thou shit shall not stink in practice. 

./riled