Forced age verification is comming sooner than we thought.
2d 4h ago by discuss.tchncs.de/u/qwerty in technology from youtu.be
TLDW:
Brazil is requiring OS level age verification by march 17th, 2026.
New York about to vote on a law that would "require all manufacturers of internet-enabled devices, operating systems, or application stores to conduct commercially reason-able and technically feasible age assurance for users at the point of device activation."
In order to “incentivize” age verification, The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has announced that they will ignore COPPA violations for software performing age verification.
In order to “incentivize” age verification, The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has announced that they will ignore COPPA violations for software performing age verification.
COPPA prevents companies from collecting data on minors without parental consent.
Sounds like the Epstein Class is still in charge of the FTC.
Feels weird upvoting this comment. I have to remind myself. It's not you I'm mad at. You're not the one doing this. You're just the messanger.
The irony knows no bounds, the one half decent reason age verification could exists for is so these companies have no more excuses to ignore coppa because now they can just pretend everyone is a consenting adult.
The fact that there will be a signal implying a user is an adult will give all sorts of bad actors plausible deniability, perhaps even legal protection, for exploiting children, who will of course be bypassing it
Yeah, this does not sound like it's going to make our children any safer.
Sounds like the Epstein Class just wants to know where the children are and make it legal to groom them.
They are taking the power of personal computing away from us...
Pretty much. They‘re essentially outlawing privacy so there will be no point in resisting. This is worse than Orwellian.
I feel like there is a line coming with hardware and software and that will be the last of it's type as the move towards subscription based services is forced onto everyone. Its a shame people won't vote with their wallets. It just means I'll have my basement crammed with old tech and I'll go full old man mode and stop keeping up with technological progress.
Thats my plan.
Its a shame people won’t vote with their wallets.
I've been truly stunned these past several days to find out just how many people, not even crazy facebook people but just average users on Lemmy, pay for a ChatGPT subscription.
They just don't care.
I had a mental health professional suggest using ChatGPT to make a day planner, it fucking floored me. We are not in the majority here and it sucks when that sinks in.
Too bad you will need hard drives for that. And all the rest.
No no. OLD tech. Books do not require hard drives.
Books like "A Canticle for Liebowitz"
Just learn how to harvest the next generation of chips out of their subscription-based devices that don't have any onboard RAM or GPU, and then integrate it into your existing system.
You might have to write your own firmware and triple-check for any backdoors that might send your data back to the mothership, but it's not like you have to cut yourself off entirely as long as you maintain your own self-sufficient system.
If anyone has recommendations for ways to preserve personal computing, please share at !homecomputing@piefed.social
I have recommendations but I would get arrested for saying what they might be
They can pry it out of my cold dead hands
This will make it more anonymous because verification relies on a token defined in the OS rather than uploading identification.
It's gonna be fun when people are sitting around a campfire talking about how bad tech ceos, wall street backed corporations, enshittification, corrupt politicians and fascism all led to the extinction of the tech golden age... as they prepare their spears to fight the next wave of machines coming to harvest them.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5-lDJWCUAAwfya?format=jpg&name=small
Pedal powered microwave.
You're way too optimistic.
I'm putting my money on Mr. Burns, A Post Electric Play.
Oh Shit Boots Riley says they are making a movie on that... I need the Apocalypse to hold out long enough for that to happen or for him to be part of the traveling group performing it.
Can't wait
13 days 😂 Tell me you don't know how software development works or how operating systems are developed without telling me.
Unless someone already has age verification ready to go and wanted to be a monopoly for a while.
This is my theory about California and age verification. As soon as alternative mobile operating system are getting better there’s suddenly a law about operating systems requiring age verification? Maybe I’m just paranoid.
HMMMMM kinda sus tho ngl (I'm serious)
looks at Palantir
And Persona (it's from the same guy).
Neither of which make OSs
You might want to look into who's funding NixOS...
link pls
Anduril is a huge donor/sponsor of Nix Foundation and NixCon
https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixcon-na-2024-is-getting-sponsored-by-anduril-what-to-do-about-it/41258/1
https://discourse.nixos.org/t/andurils-threat-is-existential/70811?page=6
https://old.reddit.com/r/NixOS/comments/1cfbz26/should_nisos_have_accepted_the_anduril_sponsorship/
Although it seems to be a matter of debate within the Nix community as to the nature and scope of open-source software and what limitations, if any, can (or should) be imposed...
Thank you!
CTO at Microslop: QUICK, VIBE CODE THAT AGE VERIFICATION, WE GOTTA BE FIRST ON THIS
[turns the data center cooling pipes from the nearest freshwater lake up to 11]
can we stop linking to lunduke (he’s a transphobe chud)
He's a small hat zionest
So this is the thing I'll eventually end up in jail for bypassing. I coul've sworn it would be drugs.
Oh well.
Yeah, the fact that I can wave to a cop walking out of a store where I just bought some pot, but might face massive fines for not doing age verification for a pong game I wrote is insane. I mean, I still want to be able to smoke my pot legally, but I also don't want to have to care about who plays pong.
If you're going to jail anyway, why go to jail for something lame?
Pretty soon you'll be hearing folks say things like "why are you worried if you don't have anything to hide" as if personal privacy has no value whatsoever. It's a slippery slope!!!
It's not a slippery slope, it's a drop into a pit fall.
It is a slippery slope, we just happen to have already slid down it most of the way and are imminently about to be falling off that cliff at the end of it...
@TriplePlaid@wetshav.ing @qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de @technology@lemmy.world
For me, a Brazilian, there's something I must hide if I want to be employable: my occultist practices, my religion. I'm a worshiper of Lilith, surrounded by mostly Christian people. I literally heard "faux-jokes" (when people want to condemn someone, but wrapping the condemnation as a joke) tying my belief to "ending up in hell".
Even though my legal name isn't difficult to find through my pseudonym, you can imagine why I use a pseudonym to openly express my religion. And once digital activity is tied to my CPF (Brazilian citizen/legal identity), and I'm definitely not buying the "anonymized checking" arguments, suddenly potential employers and buyers/merchants will know I "worship the devil" and will have yet another reason to refuse hiring me or buying/selling things from/to me.
Also, some of Lilith imagery and stories involve content which is sensitive, subjected to those very "age check" laws, further making it necessary for me to comply to "age checks" whenever I want to read or write, observe or do drawings about the fundamental deity I worship.
But according to certain people, "having something to hide = must be a criminal!!!". Because they're likely followers of some mainstream religion which is not socially persecuted, or religion isn't something significant in their lives.
Seriously. I'm truly tired of this world.
Thank you for telling you story. I'm sorry that you are in the position you are in where you can't freely be yourself around others.
Damn, and meanwhile I literally have a shirt that's in a pattern of an inverted cross that reads "Lucifer died for our sins" that I pull out to make the religious cross the road from me.
I say fuck it and make them normalize to a world that doesnt include their bubble but I also have bad self preservation.
@Krauerking@lemy.lol @technology@lemmy.world
Wow, LOVED the shirt! 🖤 Ágios Lux ferre!
I, too, do use a similar t-shirt, whose print I designed myself tries to depict Lilith. From afar, the print isn't that explicit, though: to the average bystander, it's depicting a pale woman with glowing red eyes, dark red lips, straight long dark red hair and feathery dark red wings (certainly mistaken by others as angelical), holding a red rose flower. Even the text ("Rebele-se pela", Portuguese for "Rebel yourself for" at the top; "Liberdade", "Freedom/Liberty", at the bottom), which is stylized (gothic font), is too small to be read from afar. The only tell is the mirrored ⯝ (the Venus/Feminine symbol but the circle is a waxing Moon; in my art, it's actually a waning Moon for Her Crone/Reaperess aspect) tattooed on Her left cheek, and the dark wings.
The problem is how the country I was born into is utterly christian; most employers and merchants are christian, especially in small towns (one of which I reside in), which are known for "quermesses" (annual church fairs). And when the majority of potential employers, especially the local ones, are utterly christian, saying out loud about professing a different religion risks one's own economic and social existence.
For example, a Mãe de Santo (leadress of a terreiro, which is the Afro-Brazilian sacred place of gathering) was refused an Uber car ride after the driver reprimanded her for her clothing typical of Afro-Brazilian, then she sued the driver for religious intolerance, but the judge denied her request and ruled favorable for the driver, inverting the entire situation and arguing "it was the Mãe de Santo who was religiously intolerant with the christian driver"; the judge was reported for being religiously intolerant (news articles in Portuguese), but the damage is already done).
Those became headlines, but there's a plethora of religious intolerance going unnoticed, social ostracism caused by simply having another faith other than christianity; it even risks body integrity (e.g. gangs such as Primeiro Comando da Capital torturing and/or murdering practitioners of Afro-Brazilian faiths).
This is the persecution me and many others are fated to face as soon as age checks, tying online activity (where I don't measure my words to praise Mother) to the legal ID, end up (inevitably) leaked (e.g. Discord age check DB leaked just days after implementing age checks).
Polish Roman Catholic background. Not exactly tolerant either and now I live in a place that famously is Mennonite and Amish.
That is a far more creative shirt than mine, wearing your own style is always incredible. However...
If they will make you suffer why not suffer on your own terms for a cause you think worth it? Why wait to be starved by someone's hand other than your own?
I mean I get being scared of it and don't make it a habit to hurt yourself needlessly. But I would rather live a life being myself as much as I can and be good to those who deserve it and let the weirdos who have a problem with it suffer my existence rather than the other way around. They don't wish for my existence? To bad they can suffer, because I exist.
But I said I have bad self preservation skills, we all can't make it out of this world alive, and I have no intention of cheating the game.
I wish you safety and health though. Its not good to feel at the whims of others.
@Krauerking@lemy.lol @technology@lemmy.world
Polish Roman Catholic background. Not exactly tolerant either and now I live in a place that famously is Mennonite and Amish.
Oh.. I've heard about the Amish... So it's practically a similar situation over there.
If they will make you suffer why not suffer on your own terms for a cause you think worth it? Why wait to be starved by someone’s hand other than your own?
Yeah, you're right. There's a part of me who thinks this way, too. I guess this whole age check thing will inevitably push me in this regard.
I wish you safety and health though.
Thanks! Wish you the same.
I have nothing to hide. I also have nothing to show you.
You close the door when you poop and you don't broadcast your WhatsApp messages on time square.
Accountless linux distros incoming
Can’t wait for distros to post a disclaimer that this software is strictly intended only for use on the moon.
Better yet. Say that the software isn't intended for any use at all and they don't allow you to download it, but then leave an open directory with the images
"By downloading this software, you agree you are a very naughty boy or girl."
Rename the ISOs to BMP images and say they're art instead.
Isn't Tails OS accountless? At least the non-persistent version.
Yes, even persistent isn't really an account. It's just a encrypted portion of the drive to store files between boots.
There must be some kind of higher-managed plan on this man. Everything seems to be so sudden and coordinated it just cant be a coincidence. I am NOT giving my ID to use my computer
A conspiracy of global elites? Pffft.
That's crazytalk.
It's not like Peter Thiel ,one time president and current member of the BILDERBERG steering committee , and a bunch of other dudes who worked at PayPal are solely responsible for the trajectory of technology...
Or like some forum on economics somewhere in the world would coordinate economics, and make some crazy plan with a super unbelievably literal name like agenda 2030 with the dude at the head saying "you'll own nothing and you will be happy"
I mean... Crazy. Right.
The rich should have already been filleted and cooked.
Haha imagine if they were all pedofiles, rapists and total degenerates too. haha. HA HA. No way, too crazy right? Pandoras box is open.
theres no reason to post lunduke. surely we can get our info from literally any other source
Honestly? I've done a lot of looking over the last few days and he's literally the only person I've found talking about the Brazilian law coming into effect in 12 days. If you have seen any coverage from anyone else, I would be really interested if you could pass a link my way.
Not coverage, but here's the actual law being passed. Can be translated from Portuguese easily enough.
Already had a read through it this morning. Seems like some few not too bad ideas mixed through with quite a lot of poorly thought out ones.
Linus Torvalds is the closest thing Linux has to a manufacturer
Linux is just a kernel.
Redhat with fedora and steam with the arch based steam os will be the ones that have to implement it.
Adding that nonsense to enterprise Linux distros will be hilarious to watch.
And Steam can just sell blank hardware and let you install some distro you find on the Internet. Streetlight did that with one of their albums.
And what happens when someone forks fedora and removes it for their own machine. Who’s the manufacturer then?
I am pretty sure anyone will still be able to install a distro/fork from a free country, but steam is unlikely to go this route because convenience is part of the package. They may not even care to resist because they already ask your age for the steam store.
I am more curious what this will do for non standard devices with multiple users. Even kitchen equipment may run a derivative of linux these days and they don't come with keyboard access.
I hadn’t even thought of those. Are Samsung fridges going to verify my age?
You will have to show ID to prove you are of age to drink if there is alcohol in it if you want to open it. No ID, no fridge access.
Sorry. You gotta go to jail now. Your toddler grabbed a juicy juice box from your smart refridgerator without being 18+.
The only solution is getting a smart fridge for each household member.
You're probably writing that on a device that has a secure boot chain. So far it was there without strict enforcement, but once the manufacturers decide you only get your shit signed if you implement $ARBITRARY_ORWELLIAN_GOV_RULE, you're pretty much fucked.
You mean I can voluntarily not participate in society?
BRB installing Linux everywhere.
If it doesn't generate a token you won't be able to access the site.
You and the 13 people that upvoted you have zero understanding of what an operating system is.
lol okay
If the speedrun strategy is "introduce a stupid law, wait for everyone to go 'holy shit none of this can be realistically implemented in this timeframe', wait for OS vendors to just ban the use of the OSes in the country, watch the local industry as a whole to rally and petition the government to stop the madness before there's a new dark age, repeal the clearly stupid law", all before the California law comes to effect - I've got to say it's a bold strategy and we'll see how it plays out.
Edit: Also, not going to upvote a Lunduke video - I'm glad he crams every bit of substantial information in the thumbnails so I can just not listen to him at all
Everyone panicking when this is exactly how it will go.
How on earth are they going to enforce this in smaller IOT chips? I just got an esp32-c3 for like $1.50. I highly doubt that things is able to run whatever bloatware they are going to require.
Hardware that can be manufactured on larger nodes can't really be stopped, and the (black) market for both old and new free hardware will be big, considering all the things that will inevitably be banned. As always, don't comply in advance
Will be selectively enforced and they'll gradually tighten down over time.
Sounds like they make these laws specifically to arrest you.
"Woops, your dishwasher has no age verification, now we can arrest you and make you confess whatever we want"
It literally only requires a single bit flag.
And pointing to where that bit is, and what that bit means, and proof that that bit is immutable.
You don't know anything about software development do you.
Man, they really want to find out who they need to murder, don't they?
Because that's the bottom line. Everybody understands that, right?
AI is all about replacing as many human jobs with automation as possible, and the Age/ID laws are about tracking down anyone who complains about it.
This is what we've known was coming for decades. It's finally here.
I will literally pull my AMD socket A mobo out of the box and run windows XP before I comply with this bullshit.
Or switch to one of the growing number of Linux distros who have taken the stance of "not a fucking chance are we complying with that idiocy" and then just hope where you live doesn't pass a law like this and those distros are forced to region block downloads for you 👍
There's also the worry that if enough places push something like this through, could end up being a case of a vast swath of the internet will just refuse to work without receiving an approved "Age Assurance Signal"....
Or the bigger worry that this is the beginning of the end of proper human interaction with the internet. Access and child protection laws become so strict that only chat bot agents are legally authorised to use the internet and we all become beholden to these programs for everything from looking up a recipe to requesting access to research papers to help support your masters thesis or fucking whatever.
You could have told someone
Yeah, next time.
The cyberpunk dystopia times arrive at last.
Can't wait for mohawks to come back in style 🌈🤘
Remember: it's up to us to make the cool cyberpunk stuff a reality. The bad stuff is coming no matter what.
When they make it law to have age verification in your operating system, only outlaws will have operating systems without age verification.
I guess I'm an outlaw then. Enjoy your visit to the wild west, we will always have illegal operating systems aplenty.
Consumer tech fucking sucks. We tried you guys. Time to call it quits on the internet and personal computing. Humans ruin everything.
Yeah, I'm kind of excited to explore what kind of activities outside has come up with since I was a teenager. Gonna have a lot of free time now that computing won't be fun anymore.
"You need to use the app to reserve a space for the public park."
This is actually true to visit national parks now.
*unregulated corporate greed
One question:
"On your first computer, how did you open a program?
Load "*",8,1 ✅
program.exe ✅
Double click the icon ✅
"Program? Is that like an app?" ❌
Load “*”,8,1
Stop it. You guys are making me feel young.
All I'm seeing is an obj in a dotted frame.
Load "*",8,1 - However, this would not open a specific program, just the first file on the specified drive (if I remember correctly). For a specific program, you would have to name the program.
I seem to recall that if the disk had copy protection you could also use this to simulate an earthquake as the 1541 threw its heads against the stops with all its might...
Happy days!
Ah yes, C64 floppy drive "headbanging".
IIRC this is because rather than ship a design with a limit switch or any position sensing at all, the drive software just rapidly slaps the read head home a bunch of times to ensure it's properly aligned with track zero. I have a hard time believing this was to reduce part count, because the drive itself is a whole-ass 6502 computer; the sale price also reflected that. Instead, I think it's a software fix for a "sometimes an issue" hardware problem.
The word app still makes me cringe hard.
Lemmy users upvoting Brian Lunduke is surprising. He’s very right wing from what I remember
People might not know who he is anymore. since his veer to the right hes become a lot less relevant to the linux community
Yeah that was my suspicion also, they simply don't know him.
I'm getting old.
He's nuts, but even nuts can do something well time to time. Just look at pistachios.
I've literally never heard of this guy before.
Downboats for Lunduke
My router hasn't confirmed shes over 14, please advice, it's getting probed by the USA president.
Wait, the Dear Leader's member is RJ45-sized? Wow, that's even more pathetic than I had anticipated.
And shape. The tab must be why he is so cranky.
Who wants this?
Christians. Republicans. ICE. MAGA.
What about the UK, Australia and the European Union, then?
The evil Christians don’t stop their nonsense at borders. That shit is universal, man.
My argument is that it's not Christians. That is a simplistic view of the stakeholders.
Take it far enough and you’ll always unmask a Christian that thinks the internet is sin.
The UK has had "Big Brother" since before you could still run straight through a pre-9/11 US airport terminal and tearfully declare your love to your childhood sweetheart before they boarded that plane.
All things considered, life isn't that scary here.
ice?
Groups that want to remove anonymity from the internet.
Everyone who was casually onboard with this because it felt righteous can fuck off.
Do not link Lunduke in here. He is, literally, an insane bigot.
It does not matter how factual or not the particular thing he is reporting on in this particular instance is.
I don't know who that is, but I was a little annoyed to see a thumbnail of a YouTube thumbnail of a screenshot of Twitter. Why not link to the source?
please don't get this guy any attention. he is a far right conspiracy theorist.
I've heard about gringos saying all of this about Brazil forcing age verification, but I literally cannot find any article in any Brazilian news website talking about this. So either this entire thing is a hallucination or someone got the wrong info.
Em outro comentário mandaram esse link.
All before I was hearing UK and some US states. This is the first I'm hearing about Brazil.
@SalamenceFury@piefed.social @qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de
@technology@lemmy.world
The news articles about this law, if said articles were published, are likely buried under the ongoing Caso do Banco Master (a large financial scandal involving a bank), the all-encompassing political crisis going on in Brazil, the international Iran-USA conflict, among other ongoing events. There are too many things happening simultaneously, so I don't really blame news outlets: they can only cover so much because we, as humans, can't be aware of all things when too many things are happening. So this is why little (if anything) about said law is being reported by news outlets such as Globo/G1.
Even as a Brazilian myself, I wasn't aware of this law (I was only aware of the so-called "Lei Felca" named after the YouTuber/TikToker Felca; but it doesn't seem to be this law specifically). I only got to discover about this law through the English-speaking Fediverse and Nostr posts.
Interesting discussion on this from yesterday on the NixOS forums:
https://discourse.nixos.org/t/compliance-with-u-s-age-verification-laws/75791
With my YT, Steam, and email account being old enough to drink, will they till force me to upload ID?
Yes. Because this is not about verifying your age; that's just the pretext. This is about identifying you and remotely being able to lock you out of the devices you longer own and control.
But then again, if you use YouTube and Steam, you're not in control or own anything, so...
Get fucked.
who exactly gonna stop me from downloading an operating system from massgrave or linuxtracker? bunch of burocratic morons.
Dumb phones are about to get crazy popular. I miss my Pebbl.
I guess a broken clock is right twice a day. Bitter Lunduke don't fool yourself this guy is a tool
Unless it's digital.
Wow they really are just pushing it now lol.
Maybe he would be onboard if it was called "age verification, to make sure you're not exposed to trans people"...
Brazil is not requiring OS level age verification. This information is false.
I checked again at the law and it seems it says operating systems directly.
The law and a review for the federated world made by another user that I'm not remembering. (It's in portuguese)
Edit:
CAPÍTULO IV
DOS MECANISMOS DE AFERIÇÃO DE IDADE
Art. 10. Os fornecedores de produtos ou serviços de tecnologia da informação direcionados a crianças e a adolescentes ou de acesso provável por eles deverão adotar mecanismos para proporcionar experiências adequadas à idade, nos termos deste Capítulo, respeitadas a autonomia progressiva e a diversidade de contextos socioeconômicos.
Only products or services that are directed at children or teenagers or with probable access to them should do age verification.
[...]
Art. 12. Os provedores de lojas de aplicações de internet e de sistemas operacionais de terminais deverão:
I – tomar medidas proporcionais, auditáveis e tecnicamente seguras para aferir a idade ou a faixa etária dos usuários, observados os princípios previstos no art. 6º da Lei nº 13.709, de 14 de agosto de 2018 (Lei Geral de Proteção de Dados Pessoais);
The App Store providers and terminal operating systems should:
Give proportional, auditable and tecnically secure ways to do age verification.
I'm going to install templeos.
But what's a terminal operating system in this context?
Who knows? Probably not even the legislators, but I'm already seeing every judge accepting this as everything that's on a computer, the smartphones being represented at the app store obligation.
Whether it is or is not doesn't really matter, none of the major operating system are developed in Brazil so there are really no consequences for ignoring the law, what are they going to do, ban all computers? Good luck with that.
Redhat has a huge consumer, the Brazilian government, a lot of developers are in brazil, etc. Cachyos (the distro I use) seems to not want to do anything, but when the law enters into action, it's easier to just block all brazilian ips, like my computer updating. As the government can sue and do other things.
@danielbp@lemmy.ml @qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de @technology@lemmy.world
As pessoas já lhe responderam, mas permita-me aqui fazer uma ênfase:
Lei nº 15.211 de 17/09/2025
[...]
Art. 2º Para os fins desta Lei, considera-se:
I – produto ou serviço de tecnologia da informação: produto ou serviço fornecido a distância, por meio eletrônico e provido em virtude de requisição individual, tais como aplicações de internet, programas de computador, software s, sistemas operacionais de terminais, lojas de aplicações de internet e jogos eletrônicos ou similares conectados à internet ou a outra rede de comunicações;
[...]
Art. 9º Os fornecedores de produtos ou serviços de tecnologia da informação que disponibilizarem conteúdo, produto ou serviço cuja oferta ou acesso seja impróprio, inadequado ou proibido para menores de 18 (dezoito) anos de idade deverão adotar medidas eficazes para impedir o seu acesso por crianças e adolescentes no âmbito de seus serviços e produtos.§ 1º Para dar efetividade ao disposto no caput, deverão ser adotados mecanismos confiáveis de verificação de idade a cada acesso do usuário ao conteúdo, produto ou serviço de que trata o caput deste artigo, vedada a autodeclaração.
https://normas.leg.br/?urn=urn%3Alex%3Abr%3Afederal%3Alei%3A2025%3B15211
Ou seja: não será uma caixinha pra selecionar a data de nascimento, ou um botão "sim, sou adulto", porque ambos seriam "auto-declaração". Em outras palavras: validação facial ou identidade (reconhecimento facial via terminal do Linux, could you imagine that?!) pra usar a porra de um computador. E considerando que aplicativos e websites são sine qua non pra muita coisa essencial a fim de se "viver em sociedade" (contas bancárias e Pix, carteira digital de trânsito e outras identidades digitais, gov.br que agora exige autenticação de dois fatores, etc), sendo vedado portanto o Luditismo pelas dinâmicas sociais, sinceramente... pra mim esse mundo e essa minha existência já extrapolou meu limite existencial e, se minha Deusa Mãe Lilith quiser, vou-me logo logo simbora desse pálido ponto azul de uma vez por todas!
O pessoal que tá dizendo que vai instalar outros sistemas operacionais que não Windows e Linux (como, por exemplo, @potatoguy@mbin.potato-guy.space mencionou TempleOS): essa lei afeta todo e qualquer sistema operacional porque a galera lá de Brasília não entende de ciência da computação (como vai ficar o Alpine no Docker, outras formas de virtualização como QEMU e VirtualBox? Será que computação em nuvem vai virar "coisa ilegal" que nem VPN virou no DesReino Unido e que também já tem precedente de definição como "ilícito" em algumas decisões do Supremo aqui no Brasil? (não entro no mérito dessas decisões, estou simplesmente lembrando que isso já ocorreu)).
Mas é lei, sancionada pelo Excelentíssimo Presidente da República Federativa do Brasil, Luís Inácio Lula da Silva. E tudo indica que passará a ser policiada e fiscalizada daqui duas semanas.
@danielbp@lemmy.ml @qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de @technology@lemmy.world
@potatoguy@mbin.potato-guy.space
Estou respondendo assim porque eu não consegui puxar seu comentário aqui pelo Calckey/Sharkey (e também não recebi notificação, vi pelo Lemmy.ml sem conta por ali para responder diretamente). O Calckey deu erro alegando que sua instância retornou um formato de dados "incorreto" ("Response is invalid: It could communicate with this server, but the data obtained was incorrect").
Eu falei de meme kkkkkk
Ah, agora entendi! hahah
mas vou procurar uma distro 100% livre, talvez ir de vez pro GNU Guix
O foda é que, por mais que existam distros 100% livres, dificilmente ficarão fora dos olhos dessa lei.
E, pegando o gancho desse trecho...
Vou precisar mostrar minha CNH pro meu próprio servidor? Acho que não, pelo menos não tem como saber, a não ser que a polícia viva dentro da minha casa.
Tem outra: a gente tem que lembrar que, apesar de termos inúmeras alternativas de distros e de sistemas operacionais no PC, o PC está restrito a, basicamente, Intel e AMD.
Ademais, há não muito tempo, houve toda uma migração para TPM 2.0, inclusive por parte da comunidade Linux. O TPM 2.0 talvez seja a forma pela qual todo esse lance de verificação de idade ocorrerá, a nível de hardware. É onde, inclusive, faria mais sentido tecnicamente falando: é um hardware que basicamente dita o que pode ou não na máquina.
Daí hardware mais antigo, que não tem TPM 2.0, não só se tornará obsoleto, mas também acabaria se tornando ilegal, por carecer de mecanismos de "segurança", tal como, como uma analogia e exemplo (embora o exemplo a seguir pode não ser um exemplo preciso ou correto), veículos muito antigos (os primeiros Fuscas, e veículos da época ou anteriores) se tornaram ilegais por carecer de itens de segurança exigidos pelo CTB (cinto de segurança, limpadores, etc).
Estou respondendo assim porque eu não consegui puxar seu comentário aqui pelo Calckey/Sharkey (e também não recebi notificação, vi pelo Lemmy.ml sem conta por ali para responder diretamente). O Calckey deu erro alegando que sua instância retornou um formato de dados "incorreto" ("Response is invalid: It could communicate with this server, but the data obtained was incorrect").
Pra mim está dando esses problemas tem um tempo, não sei o pq, parece problema com o contexto do json-ld do activitypub, uma hora vou ter que ver isso kkkk.
Ademais, há não muito tempo, houve toda uma migração para TPM 2.0, inclusive por parte da comunidade Linux. O TPM 2.0 talvez seja a forma pela qual todo esse lance de verificação de idade ocorrerá, a nível de hardware. É onde, inclusive, faria mais sentido tecnicamente falando: é um hardware que basicamente dita o que pode ou não na máquina
Ah sim, objetivo é não usar isso e rodar tudo local mesmo. Rodar tudo em no que era servidor chinês e foi dilacerado kkkkk (kit xeon da vida).
Eu falei de meme kkkkkk, mas vou procurar uma distro 100% livre, talvez ir de vez pro GNU Guix, e se der nunca mais interajo com nada proprietário ou de serviços online, hostear minhas coisas em casa mesmo, como esta instância da qual falo.
Vou precisar mostrar minha CNH pro meu próprio servidor? Acho que não, pelo menos não tem como saber, a não ser que a polícia viva dentro da minha casa.
É verdade. Que país bosta.
In fact this is a person identification
Thanks for sharing these news with us yeah I’m not going back to Ubuntu after this (not it’s a great OS to begin with) but before that we had to deal with snaps bogging up the entire system with updates galore anyway hopefully we can learn this lesson about not using mainstream software to control our data
Make sure to be clear that fake IDs are things you can make and use to bypass this. If using fake names on the internet isn't unethical to you all why are Fake IDs as a subject avoided like the plague?
OS's
I don't need to read further. If you can't pluralize OS, I don't trust you to speak on it.
There are so many better reasons to shit on Lunduke than this.