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2d 7h ago by sopuli.xyz/u/QuentinCallaghan in memes@sopuli.xyz from sopuli.xyz

lol, they can track the IMEI. the phone component still works without the SIM, for example to make emergency calls. that means it is still able to connect to cell towers and you can still triangulate it's position to some degree.

I'm afraid, you'll have to cut the phone in half instead. can't be helped.

Ok, if you say so. Can I just cut the camera out, and still use that?

You can buy pre-cut cameras at the camera shop. They tend to come with a screen and modular lenses.

Yeah, but I already spent my allowance on this one. :-(

Sell phone, acquire camera.

Yes, yes, it IS a sellphone.

They can track my phone, not me. I don't need it on me at all times. I almost considered a landline but they cost a fortune so I decided against it.

US Mobile offers landlines for $10/mo (link). I can’t speak to that service but I’ve been on a cell plan with them for almost a year and my only complaint has been some weirdness on early auto-payments, but once that was sorted out everything was fine. I’ve referred several people who also seem to be happy with the service as well.

Looks Cheaper than any option I saw here in the UK, but also way more expensive than just using a mobile phone.

$10/month more expensive than just using a mobile phone?

Well the mobile phone isn't completely free, but its less than £10/month.

Nah. Rip out the antennae assembly. The phone might be a bit complain-y about it (or fail some kind of pre-boot check and not boot)? never done it to find out though.

It's been a few years since I was inside iPhones regularly but back then.. All of them had a physical antenna or two which plugged into a board on a little coax connection.

Unplug those, no reception, phone just assumes it's in a dead zone.

WiFi would still work if enabled. Which probably means they could find you via WiFi even if switched off in the current world

Cellular typically uses a separate antenna than wifi, on a smartphone i imagine they're directly on the wireless chip instead of a daughter-board? Laptops and bigger stuff usually routes the antenna wires to the back of the lid, behind the screen, im more used to that

People with esims are just gonna assume they aren't being tracked. 😩

This PSA has the same vibes of the late great Apple Ads 4chan made back in the day.

Exhibit A:

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ipad-spoofing/

Exhibit B:

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https://cheezburger.com/110341/4chan-hoax-ios-7-makes-iphone-waterproof

The Apple Wave microwave charging fake advertisement.

Is this what actually got people to microwave their phones? I never saw these and thought it stemmed from fake videos. The design is pretty on point tbh

Or old-school "Household Hacker."

Ooooh, that brings back memories! Don't forget the iPad can be used for scales exploit. That was also hilarious.

Even without a SIM card you're not much less trackable. The phone still maintains a connection with the cellular towers for emergency services, sometimes even when it's fully powered off. The best way to prevent this is to remove the battery.

sometimes even when it's fully powered off

How when there is no power going to the mobile transceiver?

Because "off" is not really off in most mobile devices, more like a deep hibernate. Conveniently you can also no longer remove the batteries from any modern phone.

Because "off" is not really off in most mobile devices, more like a deep hibernate

What is your source on that because when I was working for a wireless telco we did a spectrum analysis of mobiles off and on and the phone signal drops below the noise floor when off with or without the battery connected.

iPhones have a feature where they still intermittently broadcast a Bluetooth signal after being turned off or even if they shut off because of low battery: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255809396?sortBy=rank.

Google does the same thing with the Pixel: https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/9338817?hl=en-AU#zippy=%2Cstep-find-offline-devices-and-devices-without-power.

We are talking about mobile signal not Bluetooth, check the root comment.

I'm just addressing what you quoted. They said phones don't actually turn off anymore, you asked for a source on that.

My understanding is that it's not the phone signal, but bluetooth low power mode, which is how many countries did covid exposure tracking.

So not full location triangulation, but more a hypothetical that a business or government could very easily set up bt low power beacons and identify devices that got in range like they did for covid tracking.

We are talking about mobile signal not Bluetooth, check the root comment.

It's not cellular bands, I believe it's Bluetooth beacons and possibly UWB. But the fact that "Find My" works even when the phone is "off" is a pretty well documented fact. Of course if you could actually unplug the battery those would die too.

We are talking about mobile signal not Bluetooth, check the root comment.

Well, if you were born in 2013 and later, there is a dude named Edward Snowden who told people about this but they called him names. This is not new. Anonymity on the internet has become a fantasy today.

Also if you existed before 2013, Ed's revelations are somehow still relevant.

I always leave my phone at home when doing crimes.

Except thought crimes, you need a faraday cage for those

I am genuinely surprised at the amount of people in the comments who don’t realize this is satire

Oh most people get it would be my guess, they just prefer commenting on mass surveillance.

I mean we have e-sim now but within the demographics of Lemmy, people know about old sim cards for sure.

Still tracks you when you connect to wifi.

SIM cards? what is this, 2014?

not every phone has this "esim" black magic witchcraft in it today. i got my phone in 2024, and i've got a sim card, the way it should be. esim supporters should be burned at the stake for their heresy!

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i'm kidding, of couse. i don't support burnings anymore!

the joke was this is a picture of what looks like an iphone 6, released in 2014

oh... i just look cringe now...

lol maybe a little, but I don't think you deserved the downvotes you're getting from people

I don't see any.

yeah, they've been canceled out by other votes.

Odd to mention sim cards specifically if that was the intent

Functionally, AFAIK there's nothing really stopping older devices from being updated to use e-sim. They work just fine for emergency service calls, the little chip doesn't matter that much to the underlying hardware

shit i just use two physical sim cards so that way i can easily swap between my european number and american number

Technically correct...

close, but the phone will connect to the towers and track you without a sim card.
(also bluetooth and wifi)

This is such a old image

You can tell because there’s only one camera instead do the 3-6 on a modern phone

Eventually they will have eight cameras to track you, the Arachnids from Alpha Centauri need eight perspectives for their VRs. They can work just fine off of 2d screens of course but it's simply not as effective.

That cut doesn't actually go through the chip

This does...nt kill the crab.

So what do I do with the eSIM?

put your phone in the microwave on high for 30 seconds, it wipes eSIM

Bonus super fast wireless charging!!!

Drill press

Use eScissors, cut it!

Delete the French localization too

Everything works perfectly fine, and on top of that all the robot spam calls stopped!

This also stops those pesky scam calls!

I like how they’re already tracking me. I’m still trying to understand how the meaning changes with and without the quotations, but it certainly feels important or something

This is deliciously evil

🤓 that sim card would still work, the smaller sim cards are the same chip just in a smaller plastic housing, you can cut them to size and some of them (like the one in the photo) come with premade lines as guides

Thatsthejoke.trd

No shit. It's why I plan to make custom EM shielding for my devices, including my ID card...just to break the tracking.

tinfoil actually works for this

“You remove the SIM card and… yes?”

“Can I cook mine?”

“No, you must eat it raw.”

Or just use a Nokia 3310 phone

SIM cards existed in the 90s, but I get your point.