Avocado toast is out. Rotisserie chicken is in.
18d 7h ago by discuss.online/u/bytesonbike in whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works from discuss.online
https://xcancel.com/BoringBiz_/status/2021930685368254749
splurging on rotisserie chicken
You mean those cheap chickens they sell at grocery stores that can feed you for days?
and gut-healthy juices
so they don't have to have healthcare. Don't forget that this is owned by Murdoch, a truly evil shit stain.
Costco rotisserie chicken is to die for. I mean, literally. Motherfuckers waiting in line for that shit and don't you dare walk in front of the line when they start putting them in the case, you'll get killed.
isn't this the free pastrami for jewish people guy?
“I’ve been eating Rotisserie Chickens at Costco everyday, one a day, for the last 25 years. It all started when Costco came to New York in the 90s, the first one was in Staten Island.”
But then he goes off the deep end about “LED light poisoning”
https://oldjewishmen.substack.com/p/the-story-behind-the-viral-costco
So... he thinks the laser "infects" his chicken, indirectly giving him "laser poisoning"... So his solution is to have them laser him directly, through the impenetrable barrier of a cotton t-shirt?
Are... are lasers only harmful if digested? Is the brief swipe of a laser some sort of catalyst for a chemical change in the chicken meat?
I live alone now, and I get less motivated to cook for just myself, but today I felt like I needed to eat healthy. I got a rotisserie chicken and made a nice sandwich with it, pulled most of the meat off the bone and put it in the fridge, then simmered the carcase with celery, onions, carrots, bay leaf, thyme, and salt until it was reduced way down. Strained that into a container, and tomorrow I'll make chicken soup with that, some more of the veggies, and some little potatoes I have leftover. I'll have several meals with a few cheap ingredients. Super cost effective, healthy, and delicious.
This is the way.
Just a few practical tips for those of you wanting to do this, but feel a bit nervous about dealing with the chicken carcass. Disposable gloves are your friend. Pull off every bit of meat you can possibly pull off. It can be frozen and then used for pretty much anything. You can throw it in tacos. You can put it in ramen soup.You can just eat it. You can share it with your dog or cat, if you can afford one.
If you have an Instant Pot cooker, I have the small three quart sized one, it makes it really easy and quick to simmer the carcass and get all that delicious bone broth. The bone broth can also be used for anything savory you're making that requires water like rice, instant stuffing, Ramen, couscous. You get the idea.
Filled with chlorine
The other other white meat.
Baby!
Who let Justin Bieber in?
I was thinking more Fat Bastard, but text isn’t great for conveying Scottish accents in general, let alone the single word response.
https://youtu.be/nixR6wVa4HY
I can get frozen chicken bits pretty cheap. My cheap options right now look like a half a kilo plus sauces, or (with some walking) a full kilo, plus no extras.
That doesn't account for the time value of money. The reality is even worse because the price of the house is continuing to increase as you push the purchase off into the future. (I haven't done the math, but it could very well be increasing faster than $5 day, so in reality foregoing the rotisserie chicken doesn't make you make progress at all, but only fall behind slower.)
Yeah... I wish I didn't, but I get that reference...
Me too budd, me too
sigh same. We’ve been on the internet too long.
I'll just be satisfied with knowing what this guy is about to do, but not actually seeing the footage myself.
hey man nice shot
It's even worse, if you buy "cold" rotisserie chicken (literally the same just not kept warm under heat lamps so you have to warm it up if you want it hot) it was $2.77 last time I bought one at Walmart.
Why the price difference? Don't know. It's stored in the open cover "cold food storage" they use it which are probably similar cost to run as the heat lamps. That said for a chicken sandwich or chicken noodle soup such a better deal.
I can’t speak for Walmart but I can confirm other grocery stores do that. Whatever doesn’t sell gets chilled for the following day.
I know there was a time written on the bag, could of been from the previous day I don't know. That said if I buy a chicken, eat half, put the other half in the refrigerator I would still eat it the next day so...
Our local Costco has these. They're the previous day's chicken and are sold at a discount.
The cold ones can be bought with SNAP/food stamps as well a being cheaper.
$5 for a whole chicken? That's cheap as fuck. What does the WSJ expect gen z and millennials to eat? Their mom's cooking?
A single meal for $5 would be a deal. A rotisserie chicken can feed a family, or a single person could eat it for days.
This is just more "anyone who isn't a millionaire doesn't deserve to eat" rhetoric from the world's billionaires.
Also, as a 30y.o. millennial, I object to the characterization of the "oldest gen z" being 30. I've earned my place among 20th century-borns!
New day, new generation, every single day
Can feed a family yes, but isn't truly a meal on its own. Add some rice and beans, and now you've got a decent meal that has a tad more nutrition/balance than just straight up chicken.
You're right, it needs some veggies too. But honestly if you're having rice and beans, and something iron-rich like broccoli, then the chicken isn't even necessary.
But we all know the people complaining about this aren't advocating for vegetarianism...
What a way to live
If they were interested in doing favors for humanity, they wouldn’t be working at WSJ
It doesn’t matter what food you eat, it’s still too good for you. How long until the articles about “splurging” on instant ramen come out?
You can afford instant ramen?!
I had to work for my ramen.
Stop buying (checks notes) food!! 🥑😤
Whats wrong with instant ramen?
It's like 12¢ a pack. The commenter was saying the out-of-touch billionaires will never be pleased and will continue to shame the poors no matter what they do. Even if you're eating the cheapest thing you can find, they'll still call it a frivolous expense because you're not a millionaire.
Instant ramen is more expensive than rotisserie chicken right now.
Find an asian market near you. The ramen is so cheap there and it's way better than the ones in the supermarket.
I've started buying the frozen ramen (raw noodles) at my local asian market :)
You’ll never afford a house if you keep eating FOOD!
You'll never afford food if you keep paying RENT!
Might as well reverse it
In five years when its even more dire WSJ will be posting about how millenials are splurging on sliced bread and milk.
If Gen Alpha would just be happy with water they could own a home!
Hoarding all their functional kidneys instead of buying a starter home for eight million dollars.
you have 2 kidneys, get going and sell 1 kidney, 1 lung, some of your skin and liver.
The rotisserie chicken that costs $7 and is enough for two meals? That’s a “splurge”?
Ok, well I guess I should stop splurging on shoes and water too.
Isn't the Costco chicken famously $5?
Yes, but there is also the membership fee for Costco. Basically any grocery store will have rotisserie chicken for $7-$10.
https://www.albertsons.com/shop/product-details.960464807.html
https://www.kroger.com/pl/rotisserie-chicken/0500200007
https://www.walmart.com/browse/food/rotisserie-chicken/976759_9569500_1001443_9284629_8331739
50% more or 100% more is a non-insignificant amount. Costco prices are often not great when compared to any other store. But that's why the $5 rotisserie chicken is special.
I hate having to fight by using my time to make sure all these shitty companies stay in check.
I wonder how many $5 rotisserie chickens a person would have to buy per year at Costco in order for the savings to make up for their $65 annual Costco fee?
65 / 2 = 32.5
So it pays for itself in 33 chickens. Likely waaaaaaay before that because you’re saving on most other things as well.
Like the giant cans of tuna, I thought that was a great deal. Then I tried to eat 1.88 kg of tuna as a single person... I no longer have a costco membership.
You should definitely stop splurging on water. This is not just a matter of personal finances - your selfishness is hurting the AI industry!
Most millennials are approaching 40. get off our balls WSJ you old fucks did this
The desperation of maintaining a class war against millennials is a major indicator that the ruse is about to fail
Saying millennials makes it a bit more obscured that their headline is saying that "40 year olds are still swamped in unrecoverable student debt".
My debt ballooned to nearly 60K while in repayment, this administration will ensure I'm in debt to my eyeballs for the rest of my life. The Dems dragged their heels for too long to see changes. My generation is fucked and know what, the silents and boomers can eat a bag of dicks. Shovel them into a retirement home and forget about them existing.
"Millennials and Gen Z are splugering on clean water while trying to pay down their unbelievable debt from getting a 50 year mortgage on a cardboard box under the freeway overpass!!"
-WSJ in 5 years probably
Headline in two years: Gen Z'ers are splurging on food instead of giving their money to the rich.
"GenZ struggling to survive in the lower levels of MegaCity5. Their blood is too low in iron to keep the immortal rich alive."
GenZ not eating nutritious meals is the leading cause of rejection for Soylent processing.
Yeah that might be the most accurate to the blaming tone these kinds of articles write with and to what they will take from us.
Just need to jazz it up with some homemade slang to hide the sad bits and the immortal rich part.
"GenZ struggling in well stocked MegaCity5; "Fecal-de-Cal" diet blamed for lack of macro nutrients during their mandatory weekly Blood-Up donations."
literally, the conservative culture of boot licking the billionaires never ceases to amaze me
I'm hungry. When do we eat?
Splurging on the cheapest animal protein.. Wowee, really living it up in 2026!
because they use shitty frozen chickens and they cook them like 100 at a time and they only taste great because they are loaded roasted with chemicals/cheap ingredients. it's processed food, so it's cheap. the chickens use at the grocery store for roasting and like 5 bucks and then but 5 cents of crap on them and sell them for 10 bucks. it's also way more efficient to mass produce things than do them one at a time.
making your own chicken is more expensive because you're getting higher quality and fresher product and using highly quality ingredients. a decent whole 4lb whole chicken for me is 10-15 bucks, (20+ if you want a organic free range pasture bird) and I'm adding nice salt, nice olive oil, and fresh spices/citrus etc.
the home made bird is far healthier. but not as tasty because it's not loaded with crap.
To be fair, avocado toast is an actual scam and can be made home for cheap, while rotisserie chicken is legitimately expensive rn no matter how you get it.
Right but the discussion isn't if it is healthier, it is what is cheapest. If low income families lack the equipment or knowledge to cook a good tasting whole bird, rotisserie is a good priced option. The fact that the news outlet is calling that splurging is wild.
cheapest here and now comes at a long term cost.
these chickens are a loss leader in order to get people to hooked on shitty premade food that is profitable for the stores so they never learn to cook better food.
i grew up poor. it was splurging for us to buy this stuff. our regular food was frozen and canned. even uncooked fresh food was a luxury for us.
Spend whole life in cage or being trampled by your peers
get fed industrial byproducts from other industries
Told entire life's purpose is to be killed and eaten by your captors
Get called shitty.
Edit to add:
Even though you were born into this system and have zero agency, it's still somehow your fault because TubularTittyFrog has had some bad coworkers.
i've had co-workers who feel the same way. kept fucking up at work, not showing up on time, and blaming everyone else for being mean to them. they were shitty people and work is much better without them around. being around competent people who take pride in their work and themselves is a joy.
edit: it's not a system dude. It's the choices you make. if you've made choices to make yourself a caged chicken and you hate it, you've nobody to blame but yourself. chickens don't have existential angst.
You've been reported. You seem to be arguing a completely different argument and lightly trolling. This is a warning or I'm going to give you a temp ban.
Roast chickens are loss leaders and are often the cheapest chicken you can find in a regular grocery store.
If you buy a rotisserie chicken, a seven layer dip and some tortillas all you have to do is make rice and you have enough food for a family or a single person for a couple days for cheap.
Ok, that sounds amazing.
If you saved that $5 instead of wasting it on food every day, then in 275 years you could afford the average house!
Rotisserie chicken now $7.99 at the grocery stores around here. They also roast them breast-down which makes the white meat greasy as hell, and hard to carve. I just buy a big thing of chicken strips, cook them at the beginning of the week, and use them for protein in every meal throughout the week. All my meals are based around this now.
"Rotisserie" derives from "rotate", as in the chicken is constantly being rotated as it's cooked. If it's being roasted breast-down (or breast-up, or any other consistent breast direction) then it's not rotisserie.
Sorry I should say it's packaged breast-down, so the breast are compacted hard and full of grease by the time you get it. Nasty way to do it.
Yes. These are sold more cheaply now because it's a loss leader and they are pale imitation of the true product that they represent. They loaded with extra fat and salt, which is why people love them. Like they are literally injected with a solution of fat, salt, and chemical agents to tenderize the meat. It's the same as McDonalds, but people are under the delusion it is 'healthy' and 'natural' or something. It's processed food make for mass consumption at lowest possible cost.
A legit rotisserie chicken is 2-4x that cost and would not taste nearly as good because of the lack of fat and salt.
I make black bean based veggie patties; not because I'm a vegetarian, but because a can of black beans is cheap. I call them struggle burgers. I can't wait to be demonized for buying fucking beans. Fuck this timeline.
Check out Daddy Warbucks over here with his canned beans! Dried beans are even cheaper.
That lucky bastard! Lucky, lucky, lucky bastard.
I DREAM of the day I can revel in canned beans! No soaking! No spices! No massive pot!
lucky, lucky, lucky bastard
You are correct, they are. Wet beans saves me time from having to soak them. Lentils are they only ones I buy dry because they cook fast without soaking.
Every time I try soaking dry beans I forget about them and they get gross.
I never bother soaking em. Pressure cooker (instant pot) does the job. I don't throw away the liquid either, that's good vitamins. Just do the beans most of the way in stock and spices, throw in rice and quinoa, close it up and cook it the rest of the way. Super easy.
Beans were once seen as poverty food. In the great depression at least. They were the Ramen noodles of that era.
Protein, plus fiber, plus complex carbohydrates. What's not to love? Plus it makes a smaller environmental impact compared to farming poultry or larger animals. It was mind blowing to hear rags like the WSJ demonize the younger generation for eating avocado toast; it's a fucking cheap meal. Avocados were like $1 a pop and are a good source of fiber and health fat. I can't wait for rags like the WSJ to start publishing articles like, "How dare the poors waste money on eating!"
Yeah, avocados imported into Canada are expensive but if they grow near you I can see them being stupid cheap.
They are great. I was going to make a bean stew yesterday but this article made me go buy a roast chicken just to spite them. Beans are for tonight!
Newspaper: Americans Eat Too Much Ultra processed food.
Same Newspaper: Look at these little shits splurging on veggies and chicken.
Rich dickheads not only want us to be deprived of the good things in life, but also to starve. I hate them.
Gen Z are buying food, that is why they can't afford houses. What logic is that ?
Have we moved on from Boomers bashing Millennials to them complaining about Gen Z, or is it Gen X complaining about Gen Z now?
"Splurging" on one of the most prolific loss leaders in grocery is certainly one way to say it. We're buying them because it's the cheapest way to eat
Up next: Gen Z splurging on costco hotdogs and mi goreng instant noodles.
I could eat for free for the next 50 years and still not be able to buy a home
Are you sure? If we assume you saved 10 USD per day on food, that means you can invest 3,650 per year. If you do that for 50 years and assume 5% interests, you end up at 844,182.20 USD.
Inflation has been ignored to simplify it a bit, but it works in both directions: your money is worth less than today, but over time, as food is getting more expensive, you also save more and more money per day.
Excellent! Now I just have to sort out the eating for free part and I'm all set!
And live to 120 so you actually get to live in the house for awhile..
I know some excellent public apple trees if you're in Germany one day. :P
Not really realistic for my hometown at least. I don't know any bank offering interest on saving deposits that is higher than 3%.
If I only didn't have to spend money on food and would save like 5000€ per year while earning the average salary in my town with 3% interest (which is already pretty optimistic) I'd have like 500,000€ in 50 years. While an average house would cost several million at that time (rn it's ~1 million €). I couldn't even buy a flat.
Yeah big banks in canada give like 0.1% interest, my credit union gives 0.3%
And also then have fees.....
Houses are rising at 15% a year dude.
"Splurging“ on the absolute cheapest most preservative laiden meat available, cheapeer than fucking Spam, and Gut healthy jucis because they can't afford to go to a doctor.
Fucking ghouls.
So we are not supposed to ....eat?
The rich don't understand the purpose of food, having never missed a meal in their lives.
Ending your sentence after "rich" would have been good enough to answer the question.
It’s kind of wild how everyday groceries get framed as luxuries. Sometimes people are just trying to eat something convenient and affordable, not make a statement about their finances.
ready to eat hot food is a luxury. it's not groceries. groceries is stuff you have to prep and cook. if you want stuff you don't have to prep, or cook, it's generally going to cost you more, in either value or quality.
it's just that whole foods and other groceries normalized the concept of hot ready to eat meals being served in grocery stores. that was never a thing 20+ years ago. when i was a kid they had a tiny hot bar, and it was shitty. now my local whole foods 1/4 of the store is devoted to this type of product. and it's hugely profitable because people value convenience.
is international travel a luxury or a necessity? where I live, people think it's the latter and if you aren't traveling multiple times per year, they think you are living in poverty. that is regardless of finances and many people are going into debt to travel because they know it's not socially acceptable to not travel. i know 28 year olds making 30K a year who are dropping 5-10K a year traveling.
people's frames of reference for what a 'necessity' in 2026 is not exactly objective.
Ready to eat hot food that is cheaper than the ingredients to make it, is not a luxury.
Especially if it can be refrigerated and made to last for over a week, used to supplement other foods such like chicken quesadillas, chicken soup, broth and chicken salad.
Having to prep and cook is such a narrow minded way to look at things, and a way to look down at what people do to survive.
Does the fact that I can just bite into a tomato and eat it without preparation or cooking make it not a grocery? Hell, I can even do that with oatmeal if I'm down on protein and fiber.
Exactly. Additionally a lot of low income families lack the knowledge of how to properly prepare a chicken, or the equipment to do it well. When the difference is 20¢ a pound for an already seasoned and prepared bird its not really luxury prices. Luxury is like some $50 chicken wrapped in gold bullshit topped with exotic flower pistols.
These aren't properly prepared chickens. They are McChickens. They are fast food that is full of artificial crap to make it taste good.
Low income people eat a lot of fast food because it's an affordable luxury for them. That doesn't mean it's not a luxury, or that it's a good choice to make a regular part of your diet. Especially due to the long affects.
One of the first things you figure out when you get out of being poor is that paying more for food is not a luxury, it's a necessity for a higher quality of life overall. I got this lesson in college, which was the first time it was regularly available to me.
when I was 14 years old and eating shitty food everyday, I thought healthy food was 'gross' and 'crazy expensive'. I was wrong. I was just poor and trapped in a poor person's mindset and had no idea about long term costs because i was consumed with getting things as quickly as possible for as cheap as possible.
You keep going on and on aggrandizing your own very limited experience. "When I was young.... when I was poor... when I was in college.. after I wasn't poor". Do you hear yourself?
This might come as a shock, but not every low income person has the same opportunities you did or the same resources. Just because you found a path out doesn't give you license to oversimplify the many situational nuances that come with being poor, nor did it give you some special knowledge to lead you to think you've somehow solved poverty.
I'm glad you've bettered your financial circumstances, but you seem to have lost something else important along the way.
I grew up in a poor community and watched lots of people throw their lives away. They had just as much opportunity as I did, oftentimes, they had more than I did.
Being poor sucks, but nobody is coming to save poor people. They have to save themselves. That's how it's always been and how it will always be. Thinking that someday someone will come lift you out of poverty is the most surefire way to stay in it forever.
Call it self-aggrandizing if you want, but the reality of the world is harsh. And yeah it sucks, because the funny thing about working your way out of being poor is that poor people hate and resent you for it and start blaming you for their problems and demanding that you owe. I remember when I got my first job out of college and my old high school friends working minimum wage jobs at home started asking me for money and calling me a selfish greedy asshole for not giving it to them... the same one who dropped out of college because it was 'too hard'.
They might just hate self righteous dickheads with no empathy. From the context I have it’s impossible to tell.
jerking yourself off on the internet about how you feel for people isn't empathy. it's emotional masturbation. it's the equivalent of watching a porn clip online and thinking you're a sex expert now.
empathy is when you try to understand other people's experiences and relate to them. not just feel bad about them and pat yourself on the back for being a 'good person' because you met your quota of feeling bad for other people today, unlike all those horrible other 'bad people' who don't sit around feeling bad.
the ironic is your feelings being felt does nothing to help anyone, not even yourself. it's actions that matter. I took action and improved my life and continue to do so every year of my life and refuse to let setbacks and misfortunes define me or prevent me from acheving things. Many people however, sadly, do not do that. They sit around their entire lives and complain about how hard they have it and how unfair life is and how if only someone would help them everything would get miraculously better.
Ironically this attitude isn't confined to the poor at all. Many rich people I have known are just as guilty of their self-imposed misery and poverty. The issue is their inability to be responsible for themselves.
Not everyone is wired the same way as you, life is complex and different for everyone. Society doesn’t have enough room for everyone to make it out of poverty. You got yourself in some ivory tower that’s for sure, you’re nothing special dude, none of us are. I imagine you hate the shit out of yourself as much as everyone else around you does with the way you speak to people and try to project yourself as some kind of pillar of society. Nobody gives a shit about your stove pipe view of the world with single digit data points that you use as justification to bring up all the ways you are better than everyone else. Gtfoh
I agree that a rotisserie is closer to fast food, but I was saying most low income people are lacking any food education to make a properly prepared chicken. Most low income prople who are suffering the effects of dollars a day making a difference also lack the education of the why, where, and how they can prepare equivalent priced meals that are better for them. To some this is all they know.
I also got a lesson in college, a privalidge that you and I were able to afford that some prople genuinely never got the opportunity, and those people are the ones truly suffering from the effect of "luxury" rotisseries.
I know that. I have had partners and friends who were like this. Just because someone is all that you know, doesn't mean isn't a self-defeating self-impoverishing cycle of choices.
Just because a choice is easy and convenient and seemingly cheap doesn't make it a good choice. There are other choices, even if you don't know they exist. Especially with the internet in everyone's pocket. What is stopping someone from just looking up a recipe?
I think you misunderstand the general state of people suffering from the effects of companies forcing this upon us. For you and I it is as simple as look up a recipe and do it, some people truly do not know. They don't know to look for something else. They dont know if something is unhealthy.
And that is their own fault.
Nobody forces me to cook, nor do they force me to go buy fast food. Those are choices I make.
Even if I perceive fast food as my own choice, that doesn't mean I am correct. I am wrong. It's on me to fix my mistakes.
When I was 12 I thought McDonalds was the GREATEST food in the world. Most kids do. I didn't know it was unhealthy. But they are wrong. And it was on me to grow up and learn that McDonalds was terrible for me and should be avoided rather than celebrated.
Similar, what are we to do about Alcoholics? Condemn alcohol companies? Ban them? Or do we put the onus on them to heal themselves?
We teach them. That's thengoal. You sought out to learn, sure, but you were able to find the resources to learn from. You had the means and the ability to. Im saying there are people out there who dont even know to look for a better option. They genuinely have no idea about food health, where to start, or where to buy the food. Food Deserts exist. If you have never shopped at a Piggly Wiggly in the middle of a shit state in this twisted country, then I dont think you understand what it really means to be impoverished.
I grew up poor, very poor, but my family had the intelligence, the know how, and the ability to make better choices. Some people really dont have that. Its up to us to teach our communities to be better, not scoff and say things like "those are choices I make."
You're a troll. Go away.
These aren’t properly prepared chickens. They are McChickens. They are fast food that is full of artificial crap to make it taste good.
I literally used to make these. It was my fucking job to make them. They are literally just the whole chickens sold in the deli, the package removed, seasoned with a mixture of things like paprika, garlic salt, pepper, cumin, etc, rubbed down by a worker, and stuck into a rotisserie heater.
That's it. That is literally it. They're not manufactured any different. You could make the same thing at home for twice the cost since the cooked chickens are cheaper than the raw chickens. There is nothing devious or sinister behind the scenes. There are no extra hormones or microchips stuck into them. I was asked to go grab X amount of chickens from the shelf, season them, cook them, then put them in their containers and put them on display.
Your ability to make a mountain out of a grain of sand needs to be studied for how unhinged some human beings are.
Again, you worked for Hannaford. That's a higher quality more expensive store. You worked for one store under one process, YEARS ago no doubt.
Practices change. Food science changes. etc. It's not sinister, it's business. It's objectively the fact that store bought chickens from Coscto and the like are full of fillers.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/06/opinion/sunday/costco-chicken-animal-welfare.html
Again, you worked for Hannaford. That’s a higher quality more expensive store. You worked for one store under one process, YEARS ago no doubt.
I did? That's news to me. Can't say I've ever heard of them before. I worked for fucking Wal Mart in a town of 3,000 people in rural Ontario. Also you said earlier in this thread that YEARS ago no one made rotisserie cooked chicken, so which one is it?
Your lies are starting to get exposed.
So it's clearly obvious you're a troll, an idiot, or just trying to shit on people struggling just to make it to tomorrow just so your pathetic emptiness has someone to look down on so you can feel better about how utterly shit your own life is. And if the latter is true, I don't feel sorry for you.
you can eat however you want.
however engaging in poverty finance is a way to keep yourself in poverty as it prevents you from developing smarter and healthier behaviors around food and persisting in myths and thought patterns that are objectively unhealthy and defeating.
I know this from personal experience. cheap ready to eat food is awful for you and long term does way more damage to your health and fiances than learning to cook healthy food at home. cooking for yourself is objectively healthier as you get to control what goes into your food.
but yeah if you are narrow terms of gratification and raw cost, why not just grind up the chickens into hot protein paste and let the poors eat that? or perhaps we think there is more to life than calories and macronutrients?
since when was 3-4 meals of tasty protein for under $10 considered a luxury?
because it's premade food.
fast food prices used to be similar, was that a healthy smart way to get calories? a burger and fries from mcdonalds used to be 3 bucks or so. for a lot of struggling people, it certainly was a standard option until recently and the one by me is still full of housing project kids everyday.
you didn't answer the question
I did, but you're being a typical lemmy troll who refuses to acknowledge any counter point to your simplified narrative that lacks any context because you want to bite the ragebait that makes you feel morally superior for doing so.
the article is designed to make you upset and troll you by going at your bias that premade grocery store chickens are some sort of nutritional necessity that is liberating people from the doldrums of their suffering at the evils of capitalism... even though it the chickens being sold like this is really an evil of capitalism itself.
you can't have your pre-made chicken rage and eat it too!
I did, but you’re being a typical lemmy troll who refuses to acknowledge any counter point to your simplified narrative that lacks any
In fairness, like the troll you accuse everyone else of being, you have zero proof for your claim that these chickens have somehow been modified to be shittier for you, and that's why they're cheaper.
it’s just that whole foods and other groceries normalized the concept of hot ready to eat meals being served in grocery stores. that was never a thing 20+ years ago.
Sorry you apparently grew up in bumfuck nowhere, pal. The Hannafords in the sticks that I worked at in high school, more than 20 years ago, had plenty of rotisserie chickens, and had them long before I started working there.
You've gone and invented a massive conspiracy that ignores a simple reality. Offering rotisserie chickens as a loss leader is a simple and effective way to a) move whole chickens with minor blemishes and b) get people in the store with the promise of a cheap bird that almost always required you head to the back of the store, where they could count on you seeing several things "I may as well get while I'm here" to make up for whatever loss they sell the rotisserie chickens here.
I've worked in several major grocery stores in different regions, and never encountered any evidence of this nonsense you're so indignant people won't swallow wholeheartedly.
tl;dr: Show some proof or shut the fuck up, you muppet. Your own screeds do not count as proof, let's see some external links.
whatever proof i gave you you'd deny. you can google it. these chickens are overwhelmingly prepared with injections of salt, fat and butter and plenty of outlets have tested them and they have massive levels of sodium, saturated fat, and other stuff like preservatives and chemicals that makes them processed if not ultra processed foods.
it's not a conspiracy, it's how our food supply works.
Hannafords is small chain, we're talking about Costco and Walmart in this thread. Perhaps their chickens are better. I have been to a few of them in my area and they are an expensive store with more premium products. Whole foods has them too and theirs aren't cheap and are probably more natural.
Hannafords is small chain,
Ah, yes, a tiny, insignificant chain, only backed by the supply chain of its parent company which is one of the largest food retailers in the entire US with it's various regional rebadges of subsidiaries.
Operating more than 2,000 stores of multiple brands across 23 states, Ahold Delhaize is among the largest food and consumables retailers in the United States via its regional subsidiaries.
You're talking out of your ass and you know it, while grasping at straws and completely ignoring the fact that criticism in the OP is not that they are spending money on something people like you consider a luxury, but they're framing it as a splurge to purchase a whole chicken at the lowest cost available in most stores for an entire chicken.
You really had the obvious option available to complain about this whole time, if you wanted to talk about people in debt splurging on a luxury, you could have just bitched and moaned about them springing for the probiotic juices mentioned in the OP. Instead, you're here arguing against a point nobody is making about the quality of the chicken because you've got a bug up your ass that someone else might eat a chicken you disapprove of.
Go get a hobby.
No, I'm talking out of a personal interest in economics and the food supply. You are just the one talking our your ass and thinking your personal chicken prep experience from 10-20 years ago is relevant to the market today.
Again, you have restated the same thing over and over again without proof, while not just myself, but multiple people from at least two countries, working for different major companies have told you that this was not the case where they worked. If there really is this massive conspiracy of yours to specifically inject chickens destined for the rotisserie (as opposed to just all of them, since plenty of cheaper chicken gets injected with brine and other chemicals at the processing plant, so that whole, raw chicken that you're on your high horse about being so much better often is no better or worse in this regard), then post your proof already. If you're just going to keep on moaning, "But it's true, you're all just too stupid and emotional to admit it," then kindly shut up and save us all time. You post it again, I'm going to ask you for proof of your claims another time.
You can't even be bothered to know the most basic outlines of corporate retail supply chains, or else you wouldn't be saying such stupid things like Hannaford is too small a chain to be a valid comparison, when they've been owned and backed entirely by one of the largest grocery multinationals going and used their supply chain for around two decades at this point. Given that level of ignorance on the topic, I really doubt your insights into food and grocery supply chains are even worth the electricity you're consuming to transmit them to the server when you post them.
no, what I'm asking is how a ready to eat food product that is cheaper than the raw materials alternative is considered a luxury in this context
I understand that ready to eat food itself is somewhat of a luxury, but that is not what is being discussed - what is being discussed is the cost of the food.
No no, you see when you pay any amount beyond what is absolutely necessary to survive then you are spoiled by luxury. /S
is fast food a luxury or a necessity?
this is a version of fast food. that's why it's a luxury.
it's also a factor of true cost vs the fact these are sold at a loss and understanding the psychology therein that gets people to buy more than they otherwise would.
no, what I'm asking is how a ready to eat food product that is cheaper than the raw materials alternative is considered a luxury in this context
I understand that ready to eat food itself is somewhat of a luxury, but that is not what is being discussed - what is being discussed is the cost of the food.
because it’s premade food.
When the pre-made food is cheaper than uncooked food, how is it a luxury?
You think people should pay more for food, then bitch about people spending too much?
Get the hell out of here.
Also, from your previous comment:
it’s just that whole foods and other groceries normalized the concept of hot ready to eat meals being served in grocery stores. that was never a thing 20+ years ago.
I literally worked at the Deli in a wal mart in small town Ontario 20 years ago when I was in my late teens cooking the rotisserie chicken you're bitching about didn't exist.
You're either trolling everyone here, or a completely disconnected moron.
Lol you're changing the topic because you know he's right. If someone else cooks my meal for me, regardless of price, that's a luxury. If it costs $1 or $100, the act of another person preparing and cooking my food instead of having to do it myself is something I would consider a luxury. If it was free I would still consider the act of another person cooking my food for me a luxury. Its not about price or how much the ingredients cost separately.
Because if you don't consider having someone else make your food a luxury, what is it? Normal? Expected? Do you not cook your own food? It's wild you just call "troll" cuz he has a different opinion than you. If anything you and the people shadow boxing his comments are the trolls.
Lol you’re changing the topic because you know he’s right.
They've been changing the topic to try and shoehorn their own elitist opinion into something else. The entire topic is about cost. Not luxuries or people serving others. It's about money and how much things cost. The reason @TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world is being downvoted to hell and back is because they're missing the point from the beginning. If money is tight, why should people be forced to buy uncooked food and ingredients to make food at home, spend more money to do it, just to make some uptight person on Lemmy feel better about themselves?
If the already cooked chicken is cheaper, and money is tight for things like bills and electricity, buy the fucking cooked chicken. The only person who brought "luxury" into this was that idiot who completely missed the entire point of the conversation and the entire point of the post and had to stick his elitest fucking nose into everything.
Yes, I do cook my own food. I make dinner at home all the time. My partner cooks as well. Because we can afford dropping $20 on a club pack of pork chops, wrap a bunch in our vac sealer, and stick them in the freezer for future use. We have the means in order to store ingredients and have two freezers in our farm house and own a 14 acre property.
But we're the exception, not the rule in today's day and age. And guess what? I'll still order pizza and come home with that. Or get a rotisserie chicken because work sucked and I don't feel like cooking. And the fact that people like you and Tittyfrog genuinely care so fucking much about how other people spend their money and what they eat is remarkably pathetic.
And because I know they're going to read this comment too, to quote something they said...
The existence of $6 ready to eat roasters is seem some inherently good and worthy thing… but it isn’t when you start to ask why they cost so little.
When you are struggling to literally feel yourself, your kids, pay rent, fill your gas tank, and make ends meet paycheque to paycheque, you don't have the time or the energy to give a shit where the supply chain comes from. Some people are literally just trying to survive, and you talking down to people like that make you a fucking asshole.
Edit: Words.
Thanks for not really addressing anything I said and just jumping right back into your own stuff. That was cool. It let me know you didn't really read what I said, think about it, and formulate a response. Great stuff. Oh and you should scroll back up to the first comment in this chain and see that the original poster called it a luxury first, so I guess you didn't read that either. TittyFrog hasn't been the one calling people idiot, or pathetic, or asshole, YOU have been.
Maybe take a step back and read what I'm trying to say. We are talking about the idea of if hot and ready to eat food is a luxury item. Not food in general or how much it costs (which you keep bringing up when I'm telling you it's not about the cost). I don't really care how you spend your money lol, I wish my tax dollars could go towards providing food, water, and shelter to everyone instead of the military industrial complex and corporations. Most people are just trying to survive, you and me both and everyone else in this chain I'm sure.
Thanks. Yeah that's part of the point I'm trying to make.
But people don't see the world that way... they see premade food as some sort of normal thing. And ironically all the nutrionists and public health people straight up tell us that premade stuff is unhealthy and problematic in both terms of nutrition and cost. Cheap food is always full of additives and shitty stuff. Natural foods are not, but they cost more. Better food production practices and regulations, cost more, etc.
But people just want see the sticker price in front of their face and ignore all the things that go into that price and don't want to talk about them because acknowledging how the supply system works is 'trolling' because it makes them uncomfortable. The existence of $6 ready to eat roasters is seem some inherently good and worthy thing... but it isn't when you start to ask why they cost so little.
We increasingly live in this weird world were the notion of cooking your own healthy food is some form of class oppression and privileged or something. When what it does is give you way more control over what goes into your body and typically you eat less.
acknowledging how the supply system works is ‘trolling’
Because that's not what the conversation is about, and you know it.
If all you can afford for dinner is a supermarket roast chicken, you're not in a position to give a single iota of a fuck about why it's so cheap.
I can afford Michelin star roasted chickens.
I guess that means I am not allowed to buy groceries or something? Or care and have any interest in how the food supply works? Who is going to stop me from reading books and articles about nutrition and economics and farm policy?
...what? That's literally the opposite of my point.
You're in the position where you can be intentional with your food choices. Good for you.
People buying pre-cooked chickens because that's all they can afford aren't.
Most people buying pre cooked chickens aren't doing so because it's their only option. They are doing so because it's convenient and they are hood winked by the loss leader pricing into paying more for less.
If loss leader pricing didn't work companies wouldn't do it.
How is that relevant? The article doesn't say "Gen Z and millennials are getting lured in by pre-cooked chickens and then duped into buying other stuff they don't need".
Rotisserie Chicken is cheaper than groceries. The expensive "luxury" is the grocery in this case.
How is it a luxury if it's cheaper than actual frozen whole chicken?
because the true cost is hidden
I guess you're right because there's an awful lot of nitrates, nitrites and salts in those things and they're mass produced so I guess there are a lot of long-term health costs involved.
These might help you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economies_of_scale
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_leader
TIL eating at a soup kitchen (ready to eat hot food) is a luxury.
a soup kitchen is for the homeless.
the homeless aren't buying 5 dollar rotisserie chickens
Well, they can't, because you can't buy hot food with food stamps.
Idk what's up with the downvotes. I think you're right, having someone else cook and prepare my food for me IS something I consider a luxury. Same as if someone else cleaned my dishes or did my laundry. I'm not commenting on the "quality" of the food, or the cost, just the idea of someone else cooking and prepping my food for me.
people aren't reading or thinking, they are just being outraged that their entitlement is being called out.
i get this a lot with travel too. travel is a luxury, but if you say that people tell you are a close minded asshole and that travel is a necessity for their well-being and happiness and if isn't for yours you are mentally ill.
millennials and gen z travel way more than ever and spend massive amounts on it and then cry poor about not being able to spend more on it.
life is expensive, but spending your money on luxuries like travel, ready to eat food, and food delivery and then whining about how expensive necessities are (housing, healthcare, education, groceries) is so straight up absurd. apparently everyone is broke all th e time and struggling, but when it comes to getting their grubhub, their pot, and their international vacation travel, they miraculously always have money for that.. and it can't be that these two things are maybe related?
Let them eat cake of our times.
The wall street journal aren't good journalists.
They cater towards rich people and as such:
- Grant a sense of superiority through highlighting financial disparity
- Portray news in terms of how they would affect rich people, like tax breaks being good for the economy (the economy being billionaires for wsj)
Nothing they write is objective
They're not journalists at all.
I really wish there's an alternative to the Wall Street Journal, but from the perspective of the proletariat.
It's just a picture of a guillotine.
What is gross is that rotisserie chicken is cheaper than a raw roaster.
Many stores make them from the whole chickens that are about to expire and be tossed out. Efficient, at least.
Only at Costco because it's a loss leader.
I don't shop at Costco as its a US brand. I shop at grocery stores, Canadian ones. It is a loss leader everywhere. They take the whole chickens that are damaged or are close to shelf life and roast them.
At every store I've been to that has rotisserie chicken its cheaper
Imagine writing billionaire propaganda and not being able to work out the cost effectiveness of rotisserie chicken.
The irony is likely the person who wrote this article for the billion dollar propaganda machine likely struggles to make ends meet.
That person really should study and read socialist theory
Same energy
I had to find it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYtpU5b2ALk
Apparently in the full context, this is in reference to some upscale grocery stores with an overpriced $30 "luxury" rotisserie chicken meal.
Not that this makes it much better. First, this seems like a small splurge compared to going to literally any restaurant for more than two people. Second, I had never heard of it before this article went viral and neither has anybody else I've seen in the comments... So this cannot be very common.
My conclusion is that this article is not for us. It's for rich people to help them feel less guilty about everyone complaining about their lives getting worse.
Almost has a moment of self awareness
..."The poors don't really deserve houses, right? I mean, look at them! They're spending money on food."
Walmart and Sam's near me have started rationing theit rotisserie chickens, they only make a certain number per day and when they are gone they don't make any more.
People often think of Sam's Club and Costco as sort of equivalent, but they're not and that kind of thing is one of the reasons why.
Ding ding. These things are not like the other.
The rotisserie is just to get you in the door. They sell it at a loss, but know you're going to buy a bunch of stuff once you get there. I guess ppl are now just going in to buy 1 or 2, 50lbs bags of rice and beans and dipping out.
You mean the rotisserie chickens that are $5-6, compared to lunch meat being at 10-12/lb? Splurging on that rotisserie chicken purchase?
That rotisserie chicken that I can stretch into like three to five meals, including making broth? That one?
Good ol' rotisserie chicken, rice, n beans. Sauce of choice. A legendary combination.
There is a reason we think boomers are out of touch.
They bought houses with high school diplomas for 6 walnuts. Why can't you kids do the same?
Try to explain to them that we will never be as weathly as they are and how we will receive 0 inheritance from them because they planned out how to spend their entire retirement savings not knowing what end of life care actually costs.
these articles are just trolling at this point with these kinds of headlines...
Rotisserie chicken is one of the most affordable chicken options....
exactly, the real complaint is that humans need to eat sometimes. how dare they?!
Is it weird to blend it with Coca-Cola? I saw a Will It Blend? video on that.
You mean the chicken that's $7.99 CAD, that feeds a single person 5-6 meals before taking the carcass / left over bits and making a soup out of it that feeds me for even more days at the cost of only rice and veggies?
Man they are $13.99 in BC now.. But still hella cheaper than a raw roaster at $23
Not at Costco.
Wait are you telling me a chicken dinner and juice is more attainable than a home?? Could that be why?
There’s a reason young people are travelling and using their savings on entertainment, we know we will never own. Not until we take housing by force, so what’s the point of saving? I can’t even save enough to keep up with interest. So yeah when I’m old I’ll be poor and the government will have to deal with me
Whats next... splurging on ramen, spaghetti, and hotdogs?
Instant ramen/noodles cost a friggin' fortune where I live (Denmark) now as well. The price is on average 150 DKK pr kilo of what is essentially fried pasta with a sauce packet. This shit used to be the lowest of the low student food and now it's priced like a gourmet meal.
150 DKK equals:
$23.80 USD
€20.08 EUR
$33.59 AUD
$23.44 CAD
If you find the super bland stuff that only comes in 'chicken' flavour its like 7 euro per dry kilo (bought as seperate packets, its cheaper in bulk) which is almost a week of cheap calories to bulk out some vegetables or cut price sausage. Or you can get fancy and fry it up with an egg and leftovers.
GenZ complains about having so much debt and not enough income but they keep buying food! How can they expect to succeed when they waste their money so frivolously?!
..... That's what this headline reads like to me. How dare you buy food with the money you should be spending on the interest you owe to the owners of the country.
Splurging on checks notes healthy food?
When I was young if you were poor you'd know your place in society and just eat fast food to reach a fast death.
know your place in society and just eat fast food to reach a fast death.
Were it so easy. Now fast food is so expensive I can't even eat garbage to kill myself.
this isn't healthy food anymore than KFC is healthy.
if you make it at home, it's going to be far healthier because it's not going to be loaded with crap to make shitty quality meat taste good... just like fast food does.
These comments keep getting downvoted but Costco roasters are full of anti drying chemicals. They taste awful, but if people are used to fast food... they'll eat any shit.
because people don't want to hear the truth.
they want to believe the convenient fiction that somehow these shitty mcchicken products are 'healthy' and a 'good way for low income people to get protein' etc. Just like a few years ago they are all outraged that McDonald's isn't cheap anymore.
A simplistic moralizing narrative is what people want about every issue. They don't want to get into the details or talk about how the sausage is made, because it's ugly and unpleasant. I bet you most of the people who are pro Costco chicken are also anti-factory farming, but they fail to draw the connection that factory farming is what makes meat cheap. The reason your pasture raised organici free range roaster is $25 for a 4 lb bird is because raising chickens that way is expensive.
And for no reason, colon cancer is now a disease of 30 year olds.
Yellow rice, beans, veggies and shredded rotisserie chicken. Meals for days.
Oddly beans are getting pricey, veg is almost out of reach and rice (at least around here) has tripped in price over the last decade. The rotisserie chicken is almost the last hold out for some.
On a side note I was looking into gruel (as I like to plan ahead) and the stuff to make it (oats, rice, and other grains) is now so expensive that I can say most people can not afford to eat gruel.
Reading the actual article, the lunacy and delusion is real. You don't even get three paragraphs in and they're using a sales engineer's thoughts to represent young people as a whole.
Too good for bugmeal, are you?
Eat your protein bars, keep working then maybe you come to the front of the train.
It’s depressing just how quickly and comprehensively Jeff Bezos has managed to destroy the WSJ. It used to be respected internationally, now it’s just a grubby little clickfarm.
Oh, you fuckers!!
Is this why I can't get any rotisserie chickens at Market Basket anymore?
FUCK!!
LOL!
(I recently discovered avocado toast.. it's quite nice! Job well done.)
Splurging on gut health! I mean... the nerve of these... these... (shuffles cards)... uppity whippersnappers!
people who are on gut health diets are usually already wealthy.
My dad has been cheap his entire life, and now survives almost entirely on rotisserie chicken.
Cheep!
Splurging on Hamburger Helper and frozen broccoli.
Hamburger Helper is not even cheap anymore, or easy, or good. Still buy it every 6 months for some reason.
Hamburger helper was popular in the 70s in inner city slums to make dog food edible.
And dog food was really cheap then. Dang who would have thought that the 70s of all terrible decades would start to look ok.
Splurging? They're like $8 and can feed a family of 4.
I just splurged all over my self thanks
a single chicken doesn't feed a family of four.
it's a loss leader because it gets you to buy the 6 dollar sides of potatoe, veg and cheese and the dessert and then you've spent 30-40 bucks. the 6 dollar mashed potatoes is very profitable.
it's all incredibly unhealthy too. full of margarine, salt, and chemical stabilizers for texture and shelf-life.
If you can't feed 4 people with one of those chickens, it's only unhealthy because your fat ass is eating it all by yourself.
In other news I'm learning depression era meals to make to save money. Made a fancied up Hoover Stew last week. It had a sausage in it instead of hot dog.
La di da, we got a sausage prince over heah boys, not good enough for our offcut tubes /s
For $5 I could get a 3 ish pound bird, eat good for two days and boil whatever I don't eat with a $1 bag of mirapoux and salt, and have the best rice you've ever had for a fucking week! So assuming generously the rice cost $1.5, then I am making essentially 7 or more meals for $7.50.
But yeah, we splurging....
They are all drowning in dept that is expensive for no fucking reason, that they have because they trusted you when you told them that this is a best investment that they can ever make.
Their biggest mistake was trusting in you ability to crate and maintain the system that can benefits anyone else than you.
You failed them. Go away.
Don't just go away, be forgotten entirely. Die your second death shortly after your first one. If we survive long enough I want history books to say the Silent Generation but especially the Boomers were the worst generations to have lived. That they took every scrap for themselves and would not share a dime to those struggling. That their entire life should be considered a sham and shamed.
Well there we have another piece of excellent Wall Street Journal journalism
"Man, however, is not a being whose exclusive purpose in life is eating, drinking, and providing a shelter for himself. As soon as his material wants are satisfied, other needs, of an artistic character, will thrust themselves forward the more ardently. However, if there's some rotisserie chicken available, you absolutely should grab that immediately, because that's a rare treat."
- Peter Kropotkin: The Conquest of Bread, ch. 9
" Man shall not live by bread alone, but if you grab some of that damn good rotisserie chicken, mm-mmm, that's some good stuff." Jesus, Matthew 4:4
Look at this fancy rice they're eating.
Ok, Bezos
Stupid Millennials! You're supposed to magically develop bodies which survive off instant noodles and works until it's 70! /s
At 44, my doc keeps telling me I need to eat a better diet. His diet would break the damn bank.. I have a family of three to feed.
I really like chicken and rice
"I crave you like millennials crave rotisserie chicken" damn I wish this had come out before Valentines day
Splurging on double ply toilet paper that is free of bark. Recklessly spending on biannual toothbrushs. carelessly using their lunch break to eat instead of adopting mico-hussles. foolishly agreeing to pay rent instead of taking money out of their grandfather's equity built trust fund to buy expansive rental properties.
why are they so bad with money?
Mmmm, chicken
Ai was made to make sure that these bizarro titles will last to the end of time.
Wat
I guess the Ronco guy's commercials were a generation or two too early?
We set it and forgot it.
To be fair, avocado toast is an actual scam and can be made home for cheap, while rotisserie chicken is legitimately expensive rn no matter how you get it.
But also, it's still a lie. None of us that aren't rich douchebags are "splurging" on food 😂
How is rotisserie chicken expensive? It's a loss leader and one of the cheapest proteins you can find.
Last time I checked a whole chicken was like 10-15€ or something (and I was at a discount store, so that's a low estimate). That sounds real expensive to me, my meals only cost me around 1€ each usually. And I'm pretty sure you can't stretch a single rotisserie chicken across 10-15 meals ?
To be fair, I have never bought or eaten meat as an adult, so I have no frame of reference for its price.
Ah, I see. You need to do research here, man. There's a specific situation you're not aware of.
These roast chooks are cheaper than fresh raw ones because they make them from fresh ones that are about to pass their use-by date. So, even though it seems like it makes no sense, it is actually true that a cooked chicken from the deli costs less than one you have to cook yourself.
They are like $5 near me. A regular chicken costs about what you said. But these are loss leaders to drive people in the door. A rotisserie chicken lasts me about 6 meals so its insanely cheap.
Rotisserie chicken is cheaper than a raw roasting chicken that you you need to make the same thing at home.
Rotisserie chickn $13.99, uncooked roaster is $23
pictured: currently $6.47 at a local store (in Austin)
Yeah.. American prices haven't caught up with the rest of the world yet. As much as Trump has done to destroy your economy you're still not paying anywhere near the price of things elsewhere. Going to take more loss of power for the US dollar for things to align.
But, I'll bet that's still cheaper than a whole chicken, raw.. Right?
Yeah they're cheaper than raw chickens. The store tends to buy too much chicken and some expires and would have to be thrown out... Or they can roast it right away. It's kind of a famous economic parable at this point.
Also, it sounds like Trump is just destroying our economy less than your guys are lmao.
Exactly what I though. Good luck trying to find a whole entire chicken for 6.45€ anywhere in the EU ; last time I checked LIDL, the cheapest they had was a little over 10€
I didn't know they sold it for this cheap. But does that price include taxes ? Still a little pricey IMO, but tolerable (only if taxes are included).
$13.99 is a very high price for something that gets you 2 days worth of meal tops. Maybe I'm just a cheapskate though ?
2 days? My friend, you are not making soup properly. 😄
You make SOUP with chicken !? Man, I really have no idea what carnivores are actually eating x)
In what universe is rotisserie chicken expensive? Like, unless you exclusively eat grains, potatoes, carrots and beans, there's essentially nothing cheaper, chicken is by far the cheapest animal protein in most of the world.
I do exclusively eat grains, potatoes, carrots, and beans ! (and other vegetables, fruits, and legumes)
Eating even the cheapest chicken I could find at LIDL (a little over 10€) would at least triple my food budget.
I think also Americans live in a different world pricing-wise, I have seen some people respond to me with some prices I didn't think existed.
So I guess the universe where it is expensive is called "Europe".
Ok, so then say "eating chicken is immoral", not "eating chicken is expensive" if you're vegetarian, and don't play dishonest arguments using price.
If you buy bell peppers in an EU supermarket they hover around the 4€/kg, which is very similar to the prices of whole chicken. Rotisserie is marginally more expensive per kilo, because it's one of those convenience items that supermarkets don't sell for a profit but for convenience to attract clients. Local supermarkets such as Mercadona sell rotisserie chicken de-boned for 6€-ish/kg.
This post is not about vegetarianism and its morality (which I support), it's about the literal cheapest meat being considered a luxury. 6.5€ per kilo for a cooked meal is literally some of the most affordable you can find, try feeding 2-3 people without cooking yourself. Do you consider strawberries (5€/kg at cheapest) a luxury?
Eating chicken IS expensive ! It also happens to be immoral, but that's not relevant here. Vegan is cheaper unless you live in some sort of hellscape where only hyper-processed food is available.
It really depends where you live. Strawberries should be a luxury in places they don't grow locally ; I can't give a worldwide opinion on the price of strawberries.
Fruit in general should not be a luxury, but fruit from far away or fruit that require a lot of resources to grow should be.
I did not argue whether vegan is cheaper, I argued that chicken is not expensive. 4€/kg raw and 6.5€/kg cooked for European prices is not expensive food, end of the story, you really cannot honestly argue against that. If you're seriously arguing that, you should apply for a job at the Wall Street Journal, you'd be a wonderful corporate lackey and worker basher.
Gen Zer... just say "Gen-Z kids" ??
Or "Gen Z peeps"
They been Zoomers to me for a decade, why fix what ain't broke