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Schumer, Jeffries Refuse to Join Democrats' Growing Calls to Slash ICE Spending

17h 39s ago by lemmy.world/u/return2ozma in news from www.commondreams.org

Spineless punk ass bitches.

Spineless punk ass bitches

Complicit punk ass bitches.

They don’t give a shit. All they care about is how it affects them politically. Which means they’re also fucking idiots because this isn’t even smart politically.

I guarantee you they’re worried about appearing soft on crime/immigration. They’re stuck in 2015 and I wish we could send them back there.

Seriously this is an unbelievably dumb fucking move. They cannot be this fucking dumb.

More and more I wonder who it is that actually calls the shots for these Democrats? Who is that gives them their orders. Obviously it's corporate donors just like it is with Republicans, but who are they?

Did they really let Venezuela happen because they didn't want to look weak, or do they share the same incentives as Republicans courtesy of the oil industry?

Schumer, at least, has proven himself to be a person who will claim one position in public while encouraging others to do the opposite, which is his real position. He'll take a stand for the right thing only when he knows he has enough people doing the wrong thing that he will be defeated, and then he'll publicly shrug and regret that there was nothing more he could do. He's dishonest and cowardly and does not serve the voters.

Jeffries is just an insubstantial man who blows in the corporate wind. And also just blows.

Then you have people like Ro Kahnna making a very public display of allegedly fighting for equality and justice while Peter Thiel pulls his fucking strings from backstage. Calling for the U.S. to recognize Palestine as an independent state while downplaying his own investments in Palantir and history with other silicon valley billionaires like David Sackler.

It just makes me wonder how many billionaires are actually funding both sides and directing Democrats to play off of each other in this never ending one step forward and two steps back bullshit of calling for the right thing as a publicity stunt, only because they know it will go nowhere and be blocked by a simultaneous counter measure they're running at the same time..

Primary them in a few months. Then, we build an actual party and hopefully redo this whole fucker because this hasn't been working for decades.

Primary them in a few months.

This is contingent on democrats running honest primaries.

Not if it's overwhelming. Unless they pull the Biden/harris shit again, then yeah. But that would surprise me. If they do that, we can move straight to burn this mother fucker down so no one can have it mode.

Unless they pull the Biden/harris shit again, then yeah. But that would surprise me.

It would?

Not much, but yes

Collecting politicians is the new hobby among billionaires. Anyone can buy a car, yacht, even a rocketship, but to actually own and control a politician? That's valuable.

Theil is putting together a nice collection, starting with Vance. Musk had Trump in his collection for a while, but Trump likes to remain a free agent. He's in the unique position to be able to collect Billionaires instead.

And we're just down here, standing in the rain. That is rain, isn't it? They wouldn't actually be pissing on us, would they?

Well if nothing trickled down they would look like a bunch of liars and con artists... So if anyone asks, yes it's rain.

Also, Thiel and Trump have been lovey dovey since his first term, he was just smart enough to keep fairly quiet about it. I suspect he actually brought Musk (and all the other tech bros) into the throuple to be the scapegoats for everything he's been planning for over a decade at this point.

Theil actually pitched deregulating the FDA to Trump, long before Trump decided to partner with RFK Jr. Theil also helped select several of Trump's cabinet members, including Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP) member, Michael Kratsios.

Further, Kratsios served as CTO under Trump, while some very questionable policy decisions regarding technology were made. However, neither the previous jokes regarding his lack of science experience nor his role in miserably failed COVID related tech policies (see example at the end of this post), were ever mentioned by the press when Trump picked Kratsios to serve as his official science advisor for his second term.

I wrote that in March of 2025, but in hindsight, I've started to suspect that what I always assumed were "failed" COVID tech policies, were most likely just a preview of what we're seeing in Trump's second term as he pretty openly attacks and destroys democracy and the United States. Policies hidden behind bold faced lies that were always intended to fail in order to accomplish the exact opposite of what the administration claims they are doing.

... while Trump has asked Kratsios to utilize AI technology to blaze a trail for American dominance in 2025, it may also be worth noting that just over 5 years ago, in March of 2020, Kratsios was also tasked by Trump to use cutting edge technology to tackle COVID misinformation and track early cases of the virus in the U.S. in order to keep it from spreading.

March2020: The White House on Wednesday asked the tech industry’s top players to help the government in the fight against coronavirus, tapping the expertise of companies like Apple, Facebook and Amazon to help beat back falsehoods and use artificial intelligence to glean new insights into the fast-spreading virus.

There's obviously no way to prove this, but I honestly believe the true goal was probably always to spread COVID misinformation online, especially information regarding masking during the earliest days of the pandemic.

Why would the tech side of the Trump administration care about keeping people from masking? My guess is because the beginning of the pandemic also happened to coincide with the earliest stages of Thiel et al. rolling out Clearview AI's facial recognition technology and collecting surveillance data.

“We’ll figure out the accountability mechanisms at the appropriate time,” Jeffries told reporters.

Bruh how is it not here and now? If not now, when? if not you, who?

Yeah, right now send like a pretty fucking appropriate time!

If they were controlled opposition what would they be doing different right now?

This. The democratic establishment functionally appear to serve the same interests as their supposed opponents.

Schumner, Jeffries unable to speak coherently with all the donor dick in their mouth.

There's the Democrats I know

THESE TWO ARE CONTROLLED

All of them are controlled.

Whenever I see these two in a picture in my feed I know some pusillanimous bullshit is going down in the Democratic Party without even reading the headline or article

Not a time for a change in leadership but a time to obtain some leadership. Any leadership at all. Sometimes that means at least saying "Fuck You" to the people running this new system of government.

They dont give a fuck about the average citizen. These are the same people that voted to slash funding Medicaid just a couple months ago. These are the same people that voted against impeaching Trump a couple months before that. These people want Republicans to pass every shithole bill they can because it's better for their bank account in the long run and the typical rube will blame the Republicans for it happening.

Tf is wrong with these dipshits

Controlled opposition.

Fine, fuck it, rope for them too, hang out like Mussolini did.

Fuck these goddamn traitors.

I am obligated every time someone brings up Mussolini to remind everyone that Mussolini was not overthrown and executed by a plucky band of rebels who raided the capital, his removal from power and subsequent arrest was performed by his own government and the king of Italy at the time.

Mussolini was facing growing political and social disapproval and the rioting and insurgency happing throughout italy made the country lose faith in him, as well as the coming storm of allied nations getting closer and closer to Italy prompted his own government to depose him and hand him over to the opposition.

We can still beat this through political means, and kind of need to, otherwise we don't have an actual army behind us, we don't have a leader or support from anyone, we don't have secure coordination nor popular enough public sentiment to have anything close to a rebellion or coup. Yet.

And even if all that did come together, we would need a plan to deal with the fact that even if we solved everything and got rid of every last fascist in power in the USA, we still have to live next to the tens of millions of people who didn't want this action nor vote for it, people who have a lot of community power, social capital and vast stockpiles of weapons and ammunition.

You want to defeat this, you have to hunker down and get involved in your community. Hold protests, march, yes if enough people are getting together go ahead and demonstrate your willingness to disrupt the system. But the best thing you can do is form social connections and get enough people demanding better local and state representation. We need community back, less sheltered, atomized world-views and more broad-scale opposition.

IF Dems ever take power again, the first thing they have to do is get rid of these treasonous DINOMAGAs. They are 50% of the reason that MAGA regained power. There is no way the virtuosically incompetent MAGAs should have survived the Biden Administration, they are far too stupid, but they had plenty of help, support, and cover by these two cowardly, insipid little bitches.

If they are anything like Biden then they will be calling for more support of ICE as Biden did with policing.

If they were compost, at least they would be providing value for the planet.

Just food for thought.

In fact it’s food for microbes.

If they were, it would be even more toxic than a Monsanto product.

These two croaking would probably do more for the world than Trump. They're incompetent at best and traitors at worst.

Important to remember that Jeffries has ties to the Kushner family. Also Chuck Schumer is in love with and subservient to his imaginary Republican friends.

To the surprise of absolutely no one.

Incrementalist centrism is woefully inadequate to stop fascism, even if its practitioners were interested at all in doing so.

Anyone who doesn’t stand on the right side of this issue need to be thrown out regardless of their political views.

Schumer is the new McConnell. Determined to wreck the efficacy of the Democrats.

Schumer is a republican politician, of course he won't join Democrats

It is only 0530 and I already had a headache form reading the headlines.

The Controlled Opposition Party at it again. Showing the world they won't do a damn thing to actually make things better. These corporate and AIPAC sponsored Dems need to go.

I recognize that the knee-jerk reaction to end ICE is probably not the best solution.

But, read the room. Your constituents are begging you for strong leadership actions.

Why? What has ice done for anyone?

Every country on Earth has a version of "immigration police". The catch is that some governments aren't quite as malicious the current US administration. Some are even more than the US.

Most of them are not designed to emulate the SS.

“We’ll figure out the accountability mechanisms at the appropriate time,” Jeffries told reporters.

Uhh….

Ineffective and out of touch leadership needs to step aside. AOC really ought to primary Schumer in 2028, but Democrats need different congressional leadership way before then. And Jeffries is so robotic to me. He never has the backbone when it's needed, just like Schumer

Both parties are literally owned by the Israeli,s and the same Zionist oligarchs. Until we fix this fact nothing will change

Man, I mean what will the Baileys say of this?

He’ll write them a strongly worded letter, at least.

We need leaders that want to try new things and aren't afraid to fight back. This is not normal and if they are afraid then they need to step aside and let others lead.

That's why aoc and zohran not endorsing a challanger to Jefferies is so stupid

Of course. The Dems' donors won't allow any real opposition to fascism.

The Democrat party is a container of spoiled milk. We won't get an alternative because these parties still hold too much power.

But we can pour out the contents of the container. We can rinse it out and start over.

Fuck Schumer, Pelosi and all the old ass Democrats.