Schumer, Jeffries Refuse to Join Democrats' Growing Calls to Slash ICE Spending | Common Dreams
21h 39m ago by mander.xyz/u/fossilesque in politics from www.commondreams.org
Dont listen to their words, only watch their actions. By actions alone, these 2 are MAGA.
Yup, they are republican plants.
Is it perhaps possible they’ve been negatively coerced or threatened? I feel like this might explain a fair amount of behavior of their ilk and we are dealing with the mob after all.
They're fall guys. They're handsomely paid to take the blame and be called republican plants, they ensure the DNC cannot achieve goals counter to their and their donors' interests, but they need to maintain progressive rhetoric to keep the voter base pacified.
If they're replaced, two new fall guys will pop up on future issues. They allow the DNC to operate as a complicit cooperator while claiming to be the opposition.
It’s like Hannity and Colmes.
Colmes died. Now it’s just Hannity.
How many Nazis were only Nazis because of blackmail?
“We’ll figure out the accountability mechanisms at the appropriate time,” Jeffries told reporters.
Didn't realize this was an inappropriate time to try to stop them from kidnapping and murdering people.
“We’ll figure out the accountability mechanisms at the appropriate time,” Jeffries told reporters.
Counterpoint: no you fucking won't
Well, you know... It's friday.
“We’ll figure out the accountability mechanisms at the appropriate time,”
That would be Flight of the Pigs O'Clock.
Jeffries has always struck me as someone lukewarm, uncharismatic, and even unintelligent. So many better options for that position, but he was chosen for the obvious virtue signal.
Chuck Schumer literally governs based off an imaginary republican family he made up in his head who he runs all of his policy decisions by before voting. He has talked about this openly and repeatedly, for years. He calls them the “Baileys” and they voted for Trump.
He's worthless
Holy fuck that's pathetic.
Schumer and Jefferies need to fuck off, and NY voters need to vote in some replacements.
If Mamdani was a start, and if AOC runs, I could see these two panicking!
I'd love to see AOC run for senate and take Schumer's spot.
Oh fuck them.
Genuinely worse than anyone on the right, IMO, who at least tell you to your face what they believe
Personally, I wouldn't care much what exact shade of brown the shit is when somebody is trying to make me eat it.
Lol, no they don't. While talking about the dangers of covid vaccines, all of fox news and the maga politicians were getting vaccinated. Trump had experiment treatments for it.
New York 8 you know what to do -- primary Jeffries. Start looking for your candidate now.
There's got to be a viable progressive candidate
They will not go against the wishes of their donors. They do not represent their voters.
Primary these worthless fucks
No need to wait. The elected Democrats can vote them out of their leadership positions now.
Good idea. Should we vote for another Dem who will do the same shit? Or for a hard R who will do even worse?
How about a Progressive that will actually listen to us?
There was a big progressive victory in NV for the 2020 elections. The progressive Bernie supporter wing successfully took over the party from the establishment dems.
So the dems formed another party and stole half a million from the old party’s coffers on the way out, leaving the new progressive leaders with no means to pay any of the debts the dems had run up. They took the donor lists with them and started getting all their big donors to move their donations over to the new party they controlled.
Which is all to say that even when progressives win the democrats will try to destroy you.
So the dems formed another party ...
Huh?
We tried that in 2016 when we elected Bernie Sanders as our Dem candidate. The DNC told us to go fuck ourselves and nominated Hillary Clinton anyway. So, no, apparently that won't work either.
Times have changed. They can fight all they want. Like they did against Mamdani, and they lost.
You, voters have demonstrated that they are now ready to run rough-shod over the establishment.
Yes. Because they don’t have the same networks, relationships etc.
You apparently don't understand what it means to primary a candidate (from the left, in this case). I'll explain it for you. The way to get more progressive people in Congress is to primary the existing congresspeople with a more progressive candidate.
Whoever wins the Dem primary in this district will win in the general. It does no good to wait until the general to just vote against the republican and get Jeffries again. You have to find and support a good progressive candidate who is to the left of Jeffries and beat him in the primary. If that doesn't happen, no one is going to even bother running against Jeffries because they know they won't beat him in the primary. People have to support support support an opponent.
This is how magats took over Congress. They primaried the hell out of the "traditional" repubs, from the right. They won some of those primaries and lost some. Then sometimes they still lost in the general if their candidate was too far to the right for their district. But they didn't care because they still won in a lot of others. They kept doing this every election, and the more power the right got in Congress, the more trad repubs just dropped out and didn't even try to win re-election. Once it gets going it snowballs.
There's no reason the left can't do the exact same thing to the Dems as the right did to the repubs. Well, unless it's already too late now that maga controls the government, that is.
Unseat these cowards
The Democrats are why we have fascism ascendant in this country by refusing to be an opposition party.
It's so much worse than it needs to be for no reason. They don't have the numbers to do anything, but they could at least fucking PRETEND to care that they can't.
"Well, you guys are trying your best, but there's nothing you can do without the numbers."
"No, no... let's be clear... Even if we had the numbers, we are INTENTIONALLY not doing anything."
I'm beginning to think they both spent a lot of time raping trafficked children on Trump and Epstein's Pedophile Island and need the distraction.
Useless fucking losers
The midterms won’t save us. Pitchforks will.
I just don’t see how anyone can hear this and see them as effective leadership. Minority party or not. Like it makes me, a dedicated left wing person, not want to support democrats because they seem to have lost the plot
They haven’t lost the plot, they like the plot. They don’t agree with you, they don’t like you, they don’t want to help you.
Completely agree. There are no US politicians who are willing to offer social progress or even support middle-class workers. If you're not a campaign donor, you can't get shit in this country.
Not that it matters who votes for who. After the 2024 election, it's obvious the winner isn't decided by votes anyway.
I am so disappointed in Jeffries. When Pelosi stepped back, I thought we might get some change but that was dumb of me to think a Democrat would have a spine. They are so floppy.
He has a spine. He faces criticism and outrage from people like you every day. He likes what is happening. Wealthy Democratic Party donors like what is happening. They want a paramilitary police state.
The police state has been around longer then we've all been alive
Yes of course but they are creating the pretext to suppress and disperse all kinds of organized action. Protests, strikes, etc. Once people are normalized to “ICE agents” shooting people in the streets, going door-to-door raiding people’s houses searching for “illegal immigrants”, then it’s only one step further to do the same for “domestic terrorists” who end up being legal observers, journalists, labor organizers, political activists, etc.
In the 1960’s and 70’s they did these things too with the FBI and whatnot, targeting people with worldwide recognition like Malcolm X, MLK, Fred Hampton, etc. but it was clumsy and blunt as a tool, not feasible for larger scale, plus economic conditions were comparatively better, so they didn’t fear anything quite resembling a complete destabilization or revolution. Now they do, and they figure they have the tools and the capacity to do an authoritarian militarily occupied police state at scale.
Lost hope in it as soon as she announced a successor instead of letting anyone else try.
Especially as he's as strong and effective as a wet paper bag
PRIMARY ALL OF THE FUCKING DEMOCRATS!!!
Unless they are actively opposing this regime, they are complicit. Full stop. Some worse than others, but just replacing Schumer won't do shit if the rest of the Democrats in Congress are the same milk toast centrist corporate assholes.
Add em to the list
I swear man, people don't hate neoliberals enough. Complete traitors to our country, and for what? Hard times require strong, courageous people to take charge and lead. The average American that voted for Harris in 2024 has more love for this country and bigger balls than these people ever will. Absolute cowards.
I try not to hate anyone but Jesus they make it hard.
Controlled opposition operating accordingly
At this point they are openly collaborating. Opposition, my ass.
That’s what controlled opposition means. It’s a front to act as a stress relief valve for people who oppose the regime.
Spineless cowards
"Democrats agree with fascism and wont oppose it."
Tell us something we don't know.
Who needs the diet version of fascists?
Their donors
Those that refuse to admit that is what they are
The useless duo
The worst tacticians in the history of decision making.
"Awww geezer, public office is so hard. Not that you or your people will ever know that since you're not a part of our big club."
Many of their rich donors rely on the exploitation of undocumented workers to make crap ton of money. So of course they don't want to actually clamp down on ICE or provide a better pathways to citizenship...
Undocumented workers are cheap labor and are usually obedient out of fear. There have been plenty of reported cases of farmers and/or companies calling ICE on their workers to weasel out of paying them (wage theft). Even documented workers aren't safe, since their green cards and/or work visas are tied to their job. So if they report poor working conditions and/or wage theft to authorities, they'll likely be forced to leave the U.S.
Yet people get mad when you say both parties are working together.
“We’ll figure out the accountability mechanisms at the appropriate time," Jeffries told reporters.
If we cant hold republicans accountable, we sure as shit better hold these blue conservatives accountable.
The DNC and their donors are all on board
With Democrats like these it doesn't take a genius to wonder why 1/3rd of the US didn't show up to vote.
Dear Leader has something on both of them.
Or just Schumer thinks the issue is the person leading ICE and DHS, not that they have too much impunity.
Traitors! Bought and paid for by Citizens United.
when u got raffi radicalised enough to call for regime change yet the leader of the dems can't say anything....
I mean of course they didn't because they're worthless democrats.
Almost like there's one party…
NO MORE NEW YORKERS IN DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP.
Or just replace them with real progressives like AOC and Mamdani.
President AOC, VP Bernie, Speaker Mamdani. We can dream