ICE shooting live updates: Cellphone video from ICE officer shows fatal Minneapolis shooting
1d 2h ago by piefed.social/u/UnspecificGravity in politics from www.nbcnews.com
Follow live updates after an ICE officer fatally shot 37-year-old Renee Nicole Good in Minnesota, sparking national outrage.
This video shows that there is no doubt that this was a straight up murder. The officer had his phone in his hand when he murdered her and we can see from his OWN perspective that he was in no danger whatsoever.
Jesus. I had assumed that video was from a body cam. Instead, it's taken from his left hand!
Yep. You can actually see that he is holding his phone in one hand in the original angles. He didn't even drop it when he shot her.
Incredible composure. While fearing for his life he was able to get out of the way of the slowly turning vehicle, get four shots off and record the whole thing on his cell phone.
Wait till the boomers get off work in an hour or so and they’ll come by to tell you why you’re wrong. Don’t trust your stupid eyes!
itS aN AI FaKe GrOk ViDeO!
If it was a grok video there would be naked kids in it.
The Party told you to ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.
People on the right are saying that when he puts his phone down to pull out his gun that that's when he gets hit by the car. It's like they've forgotten every other video out there and assume this is bodycam footage so the camera moving automatically means he's getting hit. A lot of people are saying that the audio was tampered with too so I wouldn't be surprised if they added some sound effects to make it seem like he got hit full force.
The lack of critical thinking is honestly insane.
They really are rejecting reality. We have other footage showing him barely getting brushed by it at a relatively low speed. He fires 2 more shots through the driver's side window and then calls her a bitch. It's damning and a jury will decide his fate.
The challenge right now is getting him in front of a jury.
Maybe someone will bring justice to him
Maybe
someonea hero will bring justice to him
Note that the moderator, whoever that is, did a Reddit. They couldn't handle a picture of Mario's brother. Fascist.
I’ve seen, well the mod can suck it
Fuck Ice Fuck fascist and fuck the online coward that enable them i hope the Disciple of Luigi get them all
It'll never happen. Not until MAGA is gone.
It doesn't need to, Minnesota submits warrants to ice, dhs, doj and the last three known addresses for the shooter and they've satisfied the in absentia exception and they can then complete a trial without him. If convicted he'll risk arrest and imprisonment and they can't leave the country, most other countries won't accept anyone with an active felony case let alone conviction and they'd probably enjoy the extradition.
The Vice President of the United States of America has literally said the ICE chud is owed a "debt of gratitude". That's after it was clear that he murdered someone.
And you think he won't be specifically protected as a signal to all other ICE chuds? The guy is set for life. They have to make sure he is. Otherwise it's going to be a lot harder to convince them to kill people when they're specifically asked to.
Yeah stupid people say stupid things, what exactly about that is new or surprising, moreover what does it change?
They can protect him from federal charges but not state ones or they would wipe state sovereignity and all the big guns and fun weapons are on the coasts.
What happens to this guy is going to set the time for how ice behaves from here on out.
Sure, I don't disagree but Peter theils bitch isn't in the know or calling the shots, he's just a loudmouth puppet.
For sure, it just highlights that clearly they know that they are going doing to have problems if their little goons think they might get held accountable for their actions.
In normal times I’d agree with you 100%.
But these are not normal times.
It would be difficult for them to pull off even now, tell a bunch of South shall rise again types that they're throwing states rights under the bus and suddenly they aren't on their side anymore.
You forget, it’s a cult.
He promises.
They spout it off, live it, love it.
He 180’s.
So do they.
Yes it is, and Confederate creeps are a much bigger much older cult.
Oh in that case let's not worry at all, everything is fine!
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No one said that in fact I said just the opposite, don't be obtuse.
I'm saying he won't be brought to justice. You, as far as I can tell, are saying he will. Where am I getting mixed up here?
Let's start with being "brought to justice", that's a fairly vague concept. I said he could be convicted in absentia. Done, that's where your confused.
https://lemmy.world/comment/21464363
The start of the comment chain for reference.
Yeah I think you're right. Personally I don't see the justice in being convicted in absentia, on its own.
Well justice is a weird word to use. Morality is more consequential when talking about convictions and people often conflate the two.
It's justice it's just not particularly moral justice.
Fortunately there is no statute of limitation on murder.
Sure, but there is double jeopardy, and with the FBI freezing local law enforcement out of the investigation, they could easily toss him a softball.
Yeah, that certainly could be the FBI's gameplan here. Withhold evidence while the outrage is fresh and there is pressure to charge, beat the case, and then the murderer has the typical right-wing epilogue and runs for Congress.
That assumes they outlive the regime
You think he'll be taken into custody? Lol!!!
The guy has the blessing of the White House, he's a hero.
And it's exactly that, that demonstrates we have finally crossed the Rubicon. Decent people with functioning brains can see this whole thing was unjustified, and that this is murder.
Yet social media is FULL of bootlickers blaming the victim. Most of them are bots and trolls.
But not all of them. And every one of those people? They're prospective ICE agents. In America or wherever American rules will be enforced going forward. Those are the only people they are creating a narrative for now.
Bottom line? These are not people who are even trying to win elections anymore......they are openly lying while challenging the status quo on every law, political precedent, etc they can manage. This is a significant change (they've lied plenty, but never this nakedly).
That change? They finally reached the point where they are confident they can do whatever they want now, and fully have the reins of power permanently.
Why are they rushing to hire ICE agents and throwing everything they can at enticing people to join up? While so obviously pandering to the exact people who would want to sign up?
I've been saying it for fucking months and months..... but we're getting close now. Just have to keep firing the top brass in the military (install puppets/ remove threat of coup), encouraging hazing and abuse in the military along with kicking out queer people (pander to right wing homophobes while skewing the military right wing by making the military hostile to "liberals"), spreading our military forces far and wide (Venezuela, go! Iran, go! Tomorrow Greenland, go!) and thin.....
Guess we'll see
It’s damning and a jury will decide his fate.
You get a very very sad "LMAO" from me.
He'll never face a jury. The FBI cut local authorities out of the investigation and they're going to clear him especially since JD Fuckworth and Trump are fabricating the reality that ice has "absolute immunity."
:(
Fbi can cut local authorities out of federal investigations, but at the state level hes still guilty of murder
They already said they had to stop the investigation because they're being cut out of reviewing any evidence to form a case against him. They can't charge him of murder if they can't prove it wasn't just "self defense" :(
They have plenty of other evidence, such as the videos. They still can charge him.
Doesn't seem like they need much more than literal footage of him committing the crime that he posted himself.
Yeah I'm gonna make a bold prediction and say this guy will face no consequences whatsoever.
He will be judged by a Minneapolis jury. The same folks that convicted Chauvin.
These are the same people that say Jan 6 was peaceful despite hundreds of hours of video, thousands of photos, and witness testimony proving otherwise.
It's not a critical thinking issue (at least not this time). It's being willing to lie, cheat, and steal to get their way, no matter what.
Also there's a willingness of many to go along with a lie.
It's a big power move to say an obvious lie and have others have to say they believe the obvious lie.
Video and audio of the three shots from the other video is not in this cam video so yeah, it's been tampered with.
Considering this video was so quickly released, it's probably been whitewashed.
Since the only possible source for this video is the phone that we can literally see in the shooters hand in other videos it seems weird that he would alter his own video to make him look more guilty, doesn't it?
These guys really don't like having to think, do they?
Its not lack of critical thinking.
It is motivated reasoning.
They're using their brains, they're using them to justify atrocities, by unmaking the atrocity into something else.
They're thinking critically, but without the concept of arriving at a conclusion that seems to make sense, they are instead doing it backwards; scrambling for narratives and lines of reasoning that avoid the obvious conclusion and obvious evidence.
... this is evil.
I literally cannot think of a better definition of evil then starting from knowing you are wrong and then doing everything you can to gaslight yourself and others into not thinking you are wrong.
The Minnesota Fraternal Order of Police or whatever they fuck their little piggy club is called, who issued a statement explicitly denying reality and reframing this as a PR problem for people who don't support the unwarranted first degree murder of civillians.
Literally evil.
These people are not redeemable, they are fundamentally broken, violent, dangerous sociopaths.
Police unions should not exist....you CANNOT enjoy the benefits of union membership whilst actively engaging in union busting.
I agree except I don't think they know they are wrong. If anything, it seems they know they are right in their heads, and that's everything they care about.
The part between where he goes back to the drivers side (after the other officer tells her to get out) and when the car speeds forward after she is shot seems faster than the other videos I’ve seen. I’d like to see side by side comparisons of this and the other videos available, because I too feel that either the video or audio was tampered with.
The speed of the vehicle is believable. Corpses tend to have leaden feet and a lack of bodily control.
I meant the speed of the video, however I do appreciate your insight on why the car was moving so quickly after she was shot because I’ve found myself (morbidly) curious about that. I read that she died on the way to the hospital, although at this point so many of these details are still shaking themselves out so to speak.
Overall, I agree that something is off with the officer’s video, there’s a mismatch that I can’t quite put my finger on without seeing it side by side with the other angles that are available.
I can definitely believe something being doctored about it. Apparently the video was released by Vance or DHS, and those are NOT people I can credit with honesty.
Alternatively, it isn't edited...and the GOP genuinely believes it casts their cause in a good light. Which would speak to a complete lack of emotional intelligence, among other qualities that a decent human would possess.
EDIT: IIRC, an interview with the mayor of Minneapolis had him mentioning that Renee was still twitching around the time someone with medical training asked to tend to her, but was blocked by ICE. But even if she survived the gunshots while at the wheel, I very much doubt she would have been able to control the car.
Ask and ye shall receive:
https://bsky.app/profile/bellingcat.com/post/3mbzglg3ids24
It's like a new thing shows up every day. I wonder what will happen this Saturday?
- January 3rd: Maduro taken from Venezuela.
- January 4th: Greenland Premier states that Greenland is (edit: autonomous country) of Denmark.
- January 5th: Venezuela gets their interim president.
- January 6th: Venezuela confirms a number of wounded during the 1/3 attack.
- January 7th: The MN shooting.
- January 8th: Two people are shot by DHS agents in Portland. Also, Iran protests get much more intense.
- January 9th: New video and discovery of "fucking bitch".
It's been a long year, and I'm learning there are actually 52 years in a year.
January 4th: Greenland Premier states that Greenland is part of Denmark.
Yes and no: it's an autonomous country within the Kingdom of Denmark, which is what their PM reiterated.
Kinda like Scotland within the UK, except autonomous.
I don't know that 'country' is exactly the right word, but yeah, it is a self governing and autonomous territory, that basically just exists within the legal framework / domain of Denmark.
Internally, it controls itself with its own government, but as far as foreign affairs and the military goes, its a territory of Denmark.
The majority of its population are Greenlandic Inuit, who've been there for thousands of years, Greenlandic is one of its official languages, along with English and Danish.
Prior to all this nonsense, there had been increasing support from both Greenlanders and the Danish government to it being its own fully independent country.
Brief history lesson and sitrep here:
https://unric.org/en/greenland-what-you-need-to-know/
US bombs Mexico
Maybe the unrelated Epstein files?
Notice how he pauses to look at the political stickers on the back of the van.
That guy was aching for a pretext to shoot her. Once he thought he had it he went for it and shot multiple times when the vehicle couldn't even hit him anymore.
Yep this is his empowered version of "owning the libs" with hatred and malice.
Exactly right.
Those aren't political stickers, they're mostly stickers for parks, and there was one for the Kansas City soccer team.
That's giving the asshat too much credit to know the difference between them.
I didn’t give him any credit. I told people (a lot of people that don’t live in the US) what those stickers are for clarification. It’s not a bunch of leftist shit.
The only reason this is being released is that they think it makes him look innocent.
Probably would've helped him a liiiitle more if they cut it before "fucking bitch" came from his shit covered cock holster.
They probably should have cut it before her murdered a woman because he didn't like her bumper stickers.
… There’s nothing wrong with sucking dick.
I've watched it twice and didn't hear him say anything. When was this?
Last few seconds. He mutters "fucking bitch" under his breath. You might need to turn the volume up since it's a bit above a whisper.
No, he sent it to someone and they found out. It'll get out anyway and it plays more in their favor for it to be released by them first before they have to prove where he sent it to.
It 100% changes my opinion on whatever transpired, but I still know that he's a murderer, because of Tennessee v. Gardner and understanding what contributory negligence is.
MURDER!
Laws only exist for the legal. This is extrajudicial. We are in a sorry state in the USA.
This is Lemmy, so I'll be downvoted, but this video does change my opinion on things a bit (not enough to change my mind about he should not have shot her).
The narrative that she was going home after dropping her kid off at school seems like at best, a partial truth at this point. Maybe they stopped to film ICE because they happened to come across ICE activity while on the way home? I'm speculating, I don't know. I still cannot understand exactly why they were stopped there to begin with, unless simply to film ICE... but she had a right to do that.
That being said, and what the video still does not explain is what the other vehicle is that's opposite from the one the ICE people pulled up in. The murderer didn't get out of that silver/gold SUV (left of her Maroon Honda), so was the murderer's vehicle the one that was on the other side of her SUV? Did she put her vehicle in between two ICE agent vehicles while they were in the middle of doing one of their kidnappings? That's a problematic decision if so.
I also think it's reasonable to believe that he felt his life was in danger; but that he put himself into that situation because he's a fucking dumbass.
You are an idiot.
I bet you didn't even read my full comment, or any of my other comments.
I read your whole comment, but I have actually met my quota for reading shit written by idiots for today so I stopped there before reading the rest of your greatest hits.
You're the part of the left that got Trump elected, so I could not give a shit less about your nonsense. If I needed any shit from you, I'd scrape it off your teeth.
If being opposed to ICE agents murdering people in the streets is too far left for you , then it sounds like I made a pretty accurate assessment of your value. Buh bye.
I am very clearly opposed to that as well doofus, you just want to start shit because I don't agree hard enough for your liking apparently. It's either that, or you aren't fully literate.
Unless I'm misreading you big time, ppl ITT all think you said a bunch of shit you did not say.
You’re right… it happens often on Lemmy. Mindhive is way worse here than Reddit.
No, they just said a bunch of shit.
Can you tell me what coherent point anyone is supposed to pull of that manic stream of consciousness?
Sometimes people can just talk. If you don't understand move on instead of making up what they mean.
So you don't have a clue either. Got it.
You demonstrated that spending further time is of no value 👋
Yes, because your time spent here has been so valuable thus far.
You're right. But I won't be making that mistake again with you and some others ITT
And yet here you are back again. Couldn't resist replying after saying you were gone. But sure, your time is just sooooo valuable.
Typical Internet response.
Wow, back again.
So much for not wasting that suuuuuuper valuable time.
The user you're shitting on here does not even disagree with you, you're just too lazy to read
They were willing to dismiss this murder with all six other angles until this one. They deserve nothing but derision and social castigation. You don’t get credit for being the last person to recognize evil.
Not what they said at all. "I changed my mind a bit" is all you people need to go the fuck off in judgement. No wonder the US is so fucked.
If he felt that his life was in danger from a car, shooting at it wouldn't reduce the danger. The only thing a pedestrian armed with a pistol can do to avoid getting run over by a car within short range is to get out of its way.
Agreed, but no one really read what I wrote. They just downvoted me because they assumed I was supporting him.
Did she put her vehicle in between two ICE agent vehicles while they were in the middle of doing one of their kidnappings? That's a problematic decision if so.
I also think it's reasonable to believe that he felt his life was in danger;
These ignorant, disgusting takes are why you are getting downvoted. You are victim blaming and making excuses for a cold blooded murderer.
Yea, I didn’t agree hard enough. Lots of stupid illiterate people on here.
Keep fucking downvoting me.
The first thing is a question. Are people not allowed to ask questions? You’re calling someone who’s asking a question ignorant… uh, doesn’t ignorance get fixed by knowledge? Maybe try answering the GD question instead of just claiming it’s ignorant and pretending like you know the answer.
Why was her car perpendicular to the flow of traffic and between two other cars?
#2. Dumbass probably did feel like his life was in danger. Dumbass stood in front of a fucking SUV. He did it to himself. Contributory Negligence is the name for it.
There’s 0 victim blaming in anything I wrote.
Also, fuck you personally. If you’re going to quote someone, quote their whole sentence. I said that he probably did feel like his life was in danger because he put himself into a situation.
Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?