gen-z dichotomy
1d 4h ago by quokk.au/u/Deceptichum in mop@quokk.au from quokk.au
I think the zodiac system being what it is completely destroys the zodiac "system"
But was Uranus in retrograde on both days? Checkmate atheist
How did you know!?
Oh wait... that was Gatorade... my mistake.
The person who downvoted you was definitely like "Ugh, must be a jiminy" or something.
I see my score as 25 to 0 on my previous comment. :?
Skill issue (you need to learn to not see the haters)
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If you ask people who really believe that, they’ll just point out the added nuances based on time/location of birth, moons, ascending, descending etc.
Yeah, I don't think astrology is any more real than, say, tarot cards. But both are complicated enough systems to be fun to play with, and also too complicated to simply 'disprove' like this post is trying to do.
Lotsa people think Astrology is just those sign things printed in newspapers (and, this does include some people who believe in it)
Trust me. It's been disproven. Scientifically. By multiple studies. If you ask me nice I will find you the links.
Using a scientific study to disprove human experience is completely missing the point. It’s the same urge to say that, “Love is just a bunch of chemicals.” What exactly are you trying to achieve, when insisting to other people that the reality or unreality of their experience depends on whether they compare those experiences to scientific studies that 1. Were not written for them and 2. Wasn’t written by/for you?
Sometimes people act as though they are better able to ascertain truth in every domain because they have a purely scientific and objective view of cosmology. Yet often, people who have a more scientific view will also sit in mysterious wonder about their place in the cosmos. “I’m so small and insignificant,” or sometimes, "nothing I ever do will matter, because of entropy and time scales measured in eons rather than years. But that feeling can also carry with it a feeling of wonder and awe, it can feel peaceful and part of something unfathomably larger than ourselves. That feeling however, and what it means to us is unaccounted for in scientific experimentation. Does that make the feeling illegitimate? What if I have an urge to try and explain the sense of wonder to myself in a way that was not bounded by science.
Have you ever wondered whether or not a practical method for uncovering truth about our natural world, may not be the absolute measure of all phenomena? And that asserting of one ontology as absolute over others is the literal definition of hegemony?
I know you aren't trying to oppress anyone but the negative reaction to a pretty harmless observation comes off to me as superstitious.
You absolutely have a right to your religion.
Have you ever wondered whether or not a practical method for uncovering truth about our natural world, may not be the absolute measure of all phenomena?
If something is good at making predictions, then science can and will confirm it.
No one can stop you from holding superstitions, but that doesn't make them useful in any way.
I cannot respond to everything but this point strikes me:
pretty harmless observation
In a vacuum, yes, these are harmless observation. When you look at the broader picture though, you will find strong connections to rejecting all of science and to the far right.
Anytime someone mentions astrology (at least online, I do not know anyone who believes in it IRL) it is just a matter of time until they talk about the COVID vaccine and a supposed "New World Order" by the IWF, Jews and whatnot.
At least that's the case in Germany. You can read a bit more here, you may want to use machine translation. Article published by the Federal Agency for Civic Education.
https://www.bpb.de/themen/rechtsextremismus/dossier-rechtsextremismus/550441/rechtsextreme-esoterik/
Yes, I know. Not my point; my point is that you can't disprove it with a cheap gotcha, not that it's real. I say I don't think its real in my post.
Same. I do not believe in astrology, and don't want people to think I do. Lol.
But to the astrology people, like my best friend, those two being born on the same day doesn't disprove anything, it strengthens it. They're both born on the same day, they're both globally recognizable figures, they have strong, divisive opinions, they are both at least somewhat charismatic, and they both lead huge movements (or, at least, are figureheads with staunch supporters and followers of their own). The details of them having polar opposite opinions and ethics is immaterial to "what the stars have destined for them!" Or whatever the fuck
and also too complicated to simply 'disprove' like this post is trying to do.
It has to make correct predictions. It doesn't.
There is nothing to disprove.
Right, but it's not disproved by a gotcha that only works on people who don't understand the concepts of the con
It does because it’s vague. Imo.
Well yeah that's literally what they believe. A better argument is identical twins that turn out extremely differently.
I mean, I think a better argument would be most folks interested in astrology use tropical astrology and not sidereal so the places they're saying the sun and planets are when folks are born in relation to the stars are actually extremely off.
All that said most folks into astrology are pretty casual about it and don't think much about it. Yes, obviously there are still quite a few people who do believe it hard core to the extent of effectively discrimination based on people's month of birth but they're still the minority of folks who do astrology things.
It's easy to explain. They're Yin and Yang. Two halves of a whole
Okay so the Dharmic Paths are right, most specifically Taoism, and western astrology, which is descended from competing religions, is wrong.
Now I don't know a lot about Eastern astrology but it presumably works within the context of dharma so I guess you need to start there instead.
(Snark aside place of birth matters significantly in astrology as a means to explain this obvious problem that would come up all the time)
No see because they were not in the same place on earth they were facing different parts of the matrix so it all checks out
If the only thing different is their political/moral views then they're not very different, they could have the exact same personality only opposite views depending on how they were raised. Not that I believe in any of that either.
Ready to bring the hate?
Rittenhouse's case was legitimate self-defense. No one has to believe me, the videos the jury saw are available.
"He shouldn't have been there!", is not a legal defense. Unless you want to posit, "She shouldn't have been there!" in this week's case. "He was there to start shit!", is mostly not a defense, but we're getting in the legal weeds here. Intention is notoriously hard to prove.
Whoever bought the gun for him, I think it was legal in that state?, should likely be in prison. Can't remember the details. Rittenhouse himself should have caught prison time for bringing the weapon across state lines. Far as I can discern, that was the only point at which he broke the law and it was a felony. No idea why he didn't go down for that. Anyone?
If I see that kid walking down my street, I might very well..., leave that your imagination. Let's say I would view him as a legitimate threat, especially given his actions after the trial. He's still looking for a fight, though I doubt he has the guts to draw blood again.
I feel honor-bound to point out every time somebody brings this up that Gaige Grosskreutz could've greased that guy, and it would've been legitimate self-defense, too. Wisconsin law be fucked.
You are correct I believe! Been some time since I've watched the videos, but I remember feeling the same.
Of course the pedo defender defends Rittenhouse.
Oh FFS, what are you on about? The one time I stated "attraction is not a choice"? And the second sentence being, "That does not absolve one of their moral actions." Are you one of those people who think LGBT is a choice?
Your mod log shows 3 instances over a period of time where you’ve defended pedophilia.
And that’s without getting into the transphobia.
Spell it out then. Mod's opinions are not evidence. Chapter and verse please. I'm willing to defend my words, and none defended pedophilia nor were transphobic.
They're deleted so I cannot view them.
But when you're getting banned from .world, .ml, midwest.social, .ca, and dbzer0.com I think it's safe to say the problem might not be any individual mod and more the user in question.