Texas Hands Over Its Entire Voter Registration List to the Trump Administration
1d 6h ago by pawb.social/u/tonytins in news from truthout.org
Texas officials have turned over the state’s voter roll to the U.S. Justice Department, according to a spokesperson for the Texas Secretary of State’s Office, complying with the Trump administration’s demands for access to data on millions of voters across the country.
The Justice Department last fall began asking all 50 states for their voter rolls — massive lists containing significant identifying information on every registered voter in each state — and other election-related data. The Justice Department has said the effort is central to its mission of enforcing election law requiring states to regularly maintain voter lists by searching for and removing ineligible voters.
Alicia Pierce, a spokesperson for the Texas Secretary of State’s Office, told Votebeat and The Texas Tribune that the state had sent its voter roll, which includes information on the approximately 18.4 million voters registered in Texas, to the Justice Department on Dec. 23.
Republicans really are fucking idiots aren't they
No disrespect to any fucking idiots reading this
I think I speak for all fucking idiots when I say this, thank you for not disrespecting us because WOW we are dumb but we aren't Texas dumb!
Spongebob and Patrick were right all along
Right now it will be used to cull "illegals."
Later it will be used to cull the "politically unreliable."
The definition of "illegals" will expand to more and more groups.
Ding ding ding.
The Trump regime has already floated the idea of suspending citizenship, and has already told those that don’t agree with them to ‘leave’.
Does that mean I don't have to pay to renounce my citizenship?
the problem is where will they send you, and how will you be able to live in a country while not on a visa, because the country couldve easily deport you back.
Republican Party right now: "they're the same picture!"
cull
OK that's bad, but they can do so much more with such data. Like, make sure they "win" the election.
Is that legal, that the federal government can demand this from states?
Honestly voter registration (with party affiliation) just feels illegal to me.
Texas doesn't have party affiliation in voter registration.
No, but they do track which primary we choose to vote in, which locks you in for any runoffs and serves as a defacto party registration until the next primary.
It does give historical context that "they" use in the "likely <party>" polling forecasts, but the affiliation itself expires at the end of the calendar year of the primary. Not saying that the data can't be used maliciously, but it's legally different then what people mean when they talk about their voter registration having that information. States that have that on your voter registration are also likely to have closed primaries, which Texas does not.
Interesting.
Last election, Elon used his scam lottery to collect names and details of independent voters.
One of his dodge hires had written a full test software for voting machines, including a program to use names and data to generate votes for testing.
Those states then all had the increased single vote percentages move a significant margin to all vote red.
Now they are telling the states to give them the same data....
This doesn’t get mentioned nearly enough.
Last election, Elon used his scam lottery to collect names and details of
independent votersmembers of the Trump cult pretending to be independent.
Fixed it for you.
The state that constantly wanted to secede is now getting as cozy as could be with the federal government.
texas is pretty much russia2.0, as far as how the govt is ran, its a template for the rest of the country.
This is exactly why I changed my registration to independent in 2016. I knew this shit was coming and I for one am not willingly putting myself on a registered "enemies list" for a fascist fuckwit to use against me. Unfortunately in NY that means I can't vote in primaries...
That may not help though, if you don't support them, you're a target. You don't have to be dem to be targeted you just have to be a problem.
I suppose, but if I'm ever questioned about it I can just make up some b.s about living in NY and was afraid that the evil leftist communist Venezuela loving Democrats would hurt me if I registered as Republican.
Hope you posted this on a VPN and have never logged into your account without it
at the end of the day we're all fucked anyway
https://www.techradar.com/pro/security/breaking-encryption-with-quantum-computers-may-be-easier-than-we-thought
We don't have party affiliation on the voter registration forms here though.
The information includes what party's primary you voted in.
My point is that it's not stored as part of your voter registration data. We have open primaries and they record which you voted in so that you can only vote in primary runoffs if you voted in that same year's original primary.
Wonder what they would make of switching back and forth between primaries election to election...
In terms of campaign analytics and polling profiling that would make you an independent voter and likely to receive attention from the campaigns you are eligible to vote for/against.
Well, more from a hypothetical suppression perspective. I certainly know I get a lot of unwanted mailings for elections from all sides since I change primaries based on either whom I want to win, or alternatively if there's someone I really don't want to win and need to vote for a competitor, weighted against the relative likelihood of the vote mattering in that particular race in my particular area..
I think it would make you a "see how they vote after the first wave" on their suppression schedule. Like if it scares you into voting "correctly" after all the reliable "wrong" voters are purged ... then you can keep voting.
Of course, it's funny because they have no idea if I'm voting 'for' the party in question or voting to try to keep the party in question from putting up someone like Trump, even if I still want them to lose either way.
I think in '24 the Republican primary ballot had a measure for closing the primaries, so I think they're getting wise.
Good to know, but they do want this nationally. Texas was just eager to assist.
When I lived in Texas I registered as a Republican so I could vote in the primary.
Might actually be a good idea if everyone registered as Republican. Then there's no way to tell who's really going to vote for them. Hah, sorry I forgot there probably won't be any more votes.
Interesting, Barron Von J just told me Texas doesn't have party affiliation on their registrations.
Not sure who to trust.
That is technically correct, but immaterial from a practical standpoint. The party affiliation is per calendar year - when you vote in one party's primary you are "registered" as that party for a year, so you can't vote in the other parties' primaries. So the primaries are nominally open unlike states with party affiliation on the registration, but practically there's no difference from closed primaries.
The whole premise of "registering as a xxxxxx" is screwed up.
Sorry but registering as Independent doesn’t save you. If you still speak out you go on the list.
Treason.
For a state that loves to say "don't mess with [us]", they sure are a bunch of dumb little bitches.
The next time a democrat decides to take over Texas, or whatever the hell they thought Jade Helm was, they'll have this list now too.
Aren't these already public? Whenever I canvas they give us a list with everyone registered and their party affiliation, and if people ask how we know we tell them that it's from the voter rolls.
Yeah, I'm kinda confused here as well. You've been able to request voter records for years now, and they already include basically all the information the article is talking about: https://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/forms/pi.pdf. There are several websites that submit these requests and then publish the results online for free. My voting history (including name, address, age, etc.) has been up on these sites for years. I do not like that at all, but I have no control over it. I'm not really sure what is different about what was handed over from Texas to the federal government...
Washington State refused the request because the feds wanted socials, license numbers, signatures, birthdates, and other information protected by state law. They happily shared the general info like name and address, but the feds are trying to sue to get the protected parts too.
Ah, yep, that's what it is. Thanks for the clarification. Found this in another article:
The state included identifiable information about voters, including dates of birth, driver’s license numbers and the last four digits of their Social Security numbers, Pierce said.
Bet 'The don't tread on me' sovcit folks are knotted and contorted messes now. Where'd all yer flags go now, ya cunts.
Don't worry about them, they didn't hear about this news at all and wouldn't care even if they did. Everyone in that camp will fall in line with Daddy Trump.
😂
I can’t tell if this is just for those currently registered or if it includes previous.
Glad i no longer live in texas
Experts and state officials around the country have raised concerns over the legality of the Justice Department’s effort to obtain states’ voter rolls and whether it could compromise voter privacy protections.
I always thought these were public record. TIL, I guess.
Yep. Its kinda fucked how many states just... have this information on the open internet. I can just google my address (just street and number, no city info) and get a crapload of information.
VoterRecords.com
They were not
Where are you getting that from? As I mentioned in another reply, you've been able to request voter records for years now, and they already include basically all the information the article is talking about: https://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/forms/pi.pdf. There are several websites that submit these requests and then publish the results online for free. My voting history (including name, address, age, etc.) has been up on these sites for years. I do not like that at all, but I have no control over it. I'm not really sure what is different about what was handed over from Texas to the federal government...
Nope as the rolls contain very sensitive information such as home addresses and legal names.
That's not exactly sensitive info. Property records are very public with that same info.
Yes totally not sensitive at all. Not like you live in the address provided and this administration has a bone to pick with those that don’t register as the GOP.
Also property records are not “very public.” Yes you are able to request the information, but there is anything suspicious about the request the records holder can and should block said request.
Yes totally not sensitive at all. Not like you live in the address provided and this administration has a bone to pick with those that don’t register as the GOP.
The current situation doesn't retroactively somehow make these records sensitive.
Also property records are not “very public.” Yes you are able to request the information, but there is anything suspicious about the request the records holder can and should block said request.
Not in my (most?) states. Property records are readily accessible online for the states I've had to look up. I can pull up a property on a map and find full history of sales, purchases, owners, permits, renovations, and more. Also why it's used often in OSINT.
Indeed it doesn’t. It’s an example of a situation that could happen if the records were genuine everyday public knowledge.
Indeed you can, and said look ups only give you partial information, and even then a suspicious lookup and you get blocked out. With VPNs and non-US IPs blocked by default.
And even then you are needing to go to multiple sites to get a profile. The Voting Rolls however is a complete profile, thus they are not made to be public
Indeed you can, and said look ups only give you partial information, and even then a suspicious lookup and you get blocked out. With VPNs and non-US IPs blocked by default.
You made multiple claims about how it's not "very public" and somehow that the property owner can somehow block requests which is just nonsense. And now you've changed to arguing that it's public but somehow restricted by location or whatever. Or maybe you've run into scraping protections before and somehow you think that supports your idea that this information is not public. At best maybe you're referencing a state that has these protections, but it's absolutely not commonplace. I think you're just full of shit, though.
And even then you are needing to go to multiple sites to get a profile. The Voting Rolls however is a complete profile, thus they are not made to be public
What?
Except I didn’t say Property owners can block. I said record holders. IE, the different government departments that maintain and keep track of the documents.
I didn’t Change though, being able to make a records request doesn’t mean therefore the information is Public, particularly at the level you imply (a simple ass Google search.).
It is common place though.
“Excuse me property value evaluation office can you give me a complete stranger provide the home addresses of homes with families.”
“Sorry stranger we have no knowledge who you are and the IP address your email request appears to be from Ukraine. Your request is denied to protect the property owners from being victims.”
The local county department that tracks property only knows the property and who gets taxed for owning said property.
Meanwhile the voting rolls has ones Legal Name, Address they live in, Social Security Number.
I didn’t Change though, being able to make a records request doesn’t mean therefore the information is Public, particularly at the level you imply (a simple ass Google search.).
It's public. Live. With GIS data maps of property boundaries. Available to anyone at any time. I can give you actual links or you could just do some simple ass Google searches as you said. Quit making shit up.
“Sorry stranger we have no knowledge who you are and the IP address your email request appears to be from Ukraine. Your request is denied to protect the property owners from being victims.”
haha
The local county department that tracks property only knows the property and who gets taxed for owning said property.
Also completely and entirely false.
Meanwhile the voting rolls has ones Legal Name, Address they live in, Social Security Number.
Also false. I doubt you've even registered to vote anywhere in this country.
Keep replying with more completely made up bullshit.
Yes there are GIS maps of properties but all those tell you is the property and who owns the property. So unless you actively live in the property it’s not exactly someone finding you via Google.
Registered and voted in Illinois. Each time I decided to take part in the primary I am asked which party ballot. From there I am registered as a Democrat because I voted in the Democratic Primary.
Property records in most states and counties have a web portal with a search bar. You input the address and you can get the name of who lives there. The opposite is true in some places as well, you input the name and get the address. It's not good, don't get me wrong, but it is "very public" in most places.
Luckily, my state doesn't have you register your political affiliation. That's what is most worrying about Texas doing this, since they do have you pick a primary. Otherwise, it is basically just public records.
Nope what you get is who owns the property. It’s certainly possible the homeowner lives there (obviously.) but if a property is say a Rental, then the information is going to be the Land Lord.
Actually unless the State has a Jungle Primary or just a general election you are going to have a party affiliation. Literally speaking from a State that is Open Primary so the rolls register based on which primary I vote in.
Many states (including Texas) require voters to register as a member of a political party. Texas just handed the Feds a list of all the voting Democrats in Texas.
One of the minor reasons I've always registered independent.
Texas does not have party affiliation on the voter registration form or ID card, and we have open primaries.
But we can only vote in one party's primary for any given election cycle, including runoffs, so it serves as a defacto registration.
Yes but that affiliation is automatic when you vote in a primary and expires at the end of that calendar year, to ensure you can only vote in a primary runoff if you voted in the original primary.
You affiliate with a party in order to even get a primary ballot.
https://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/laws/advisory2020-05.shtml
The affiliation is automatic when you tell the election official which primary you want to vote in, it's not a separate action you have to take ahead of time like voter registration is. And it expires at the end of the same calendar year. It's so you can only vote in a primary runoff if you voted in the original primary.
Which gets recorded to the roll so they can enforce that.
With your driver's license info included?
they just dont know your personal details, like DL, SSN,,,etc. just where or who you voted for.
Oops, accidentally purged the registration of 1,000,000 voters in the Democrat folder
Honest mistake, no cap frfr
Counting on TX being a POS state has never been a bad bet.
FUCK THIS STATE
Can anyone truly say they dont think voting is rigged?
I mean im certain it was rigged with paper ballets, just a little more difficult. But we have voting machines programmed by musks friends/fans. There's no way votes matter and probably haven't for 20 years.
texas desperately needed to stay red, so they intimidate the blue districts into not voting, its voter intimidation pure and simple. its probably better for blue voters to not register for voting at this point.
Hey Trump, now you know I live in Texas and vote blue. Bite me.
He does not bite, but he lets shoot. Be careful what you wish for.