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EU Parliament eyes freezing US trade deal over Trump’s Greenland threats

1d 7h ago by feddit.uk/u/maam in buyeuropean@feddit.uk from www.politico.eu

The greatest weapon against the US is not bombs or military. It's selling us shit! We can't survive in isolation, consumer economy has fucked us for decades. Cut all trade and stop selling us products. Then we fall fast.

Cut all trade. Damn, usa boycot came to the pathetic level i'm not even accepting american-english when installing an o/s. It's a common default, but i scroll to uk or canadian english. Pathetic, i know, yet here we are.

I double check everything I buy, to make sure nothing supports USA.

This is why I support Mark Carney in using British spellings and words. Let’s gut out all the American influence from our English.

No no no, if you still want to use English, then it's a chance to move to Shavian.

https://www.shavian.info/

😅

we need to dream big! 😆

I even work on spreading Esperanto, as a neutral language for Europe and humankind 🫡

Why? English from England.

English, as an national language, is great for national communication.

But using national language for international communication is like using black-white television to watch a color movie - it kind of works, but it definitely loses a lot.

There are at least 2 important factors:

  1. neutrality: English used for international communication favors people from English speaking countries. Inside of Europe that is not to big problem, because Ireland and Malta, while being great counties, have relatively small population - so English can work as a reasonably neutral language for European communication. But when it comes to Europe in world - English is used but a country that left us and by country that wages trade war against us. That highlights that English definitely is not a worldwide neutral language.

  2. ease of use: Esperanto was designed to be easy to learn and use, while functioning very well as a mean of communication. It does not carry a burden of centuries of non-systemic evolution, so it does not have things like irregular verbs. It's grammar is very regular with simple rules. It enables creating words with a set of prefixes and sufixes so one does not need to learn a bunch of new (different) words about related things (like: to eat, to snack, to feast, food, meal, cantina, utensils, etc. - they are manĝi, manĝeti, manĝegi, manĝo, manĝaĵo, manĝejo, manĝiloj etc). Experience shows that learning Esperanto is 5-10x faster that learning national languages. It's just much not efficient.

Than comes other factors, like pushing some way of thinking, usual for one specific nation, to all humankind, atc, but those 2 are the basic ones.

Esperanto + Shavian is the constructed future i dream of.

*ahem* Brexit

English is just not great as an international language. It is one because of imperialistic history.

Between the US and brexit, it's a great incentive to maybe move on.

Year of Esperanto here we come! XD

I have been interested in Esperanto for unrelated reasons, any tips on where to start?

https://lernu.net/

this is our chance! :D

i scroll to uk or canadian english. Pathetic, i know, yet here we are.

Dude. This entire country is boycotting the US out of sheer spite. You cannot out-petty us all, so carry on.

Greetings from europe (call us if you wanna talk to a friend)

Unitedstatesian here: boycott us. Seriously, do it. I’m not kidding. This isn’t a joke, or sarcastic. From where I’m standing, it looks like a popular grassroots response could be the strongest response the EU is going to be giving in the near to mid term future.

Also, I hope your leaders are preparing contingency plans, but the time to do that was honestly way back in 2016-17 when it became apparent what his intentions and predilections were. I am concerned that it could be too little, too late, with regards to establishing independent European security that cannot be fundamentally undermined by our now-fascist government.

Bonus if you sell off 10 year us treasuries

Oh yep, that too. Boycott investing in US stuff, if you weren’t already. And then tell your MPs or legislators or whatever term is relevant in your country that you want them to push for divesting from US sovereign debt as a national policy.

I’m sorry to say this but what the world needs is you to be inflicted an humiliating, clear military defeat somewhere. Maybe losing a carrier, maybe getting some of those B2 shot down in one of those ‘beautiful bombings’. You (and the world) need to see your military is not unbreakable and pretending to be the owners of the world is not going to end well.

Unfortunately, the US military remains extremely competent - for now, at least. There are already beginnings of ironically Stalin-esque ideological purges in the military leadership, and the procurement choices this regime has made have been… impressively idiotic, in pretty much all domains.

Good step, but we need to go further. Kick out all US companies. Block all big tech services, kick out McDonalds, oil companies, accountancy firms, block import of all General Motors cars. No more Apple stores, sorry. Block sales of microchip lithography machines. Close their factories and nationalize them.

Then, for good measure, dump all US bonds the ECB holds.

Thén have a talk.

But then where will all of the backhanders come from? For example, privacy is not a God given right, it's something that we should have to fight tooth and nail for - according to these same people that are currently fighting to monetise our privacy and 'eyeing' the freezing of a trade deal that they have probably already been paid half for, for agreeing to it in principal. Many of them, themselves fighting to clear their names of taking payments for agreements or contracts be they Pfizer, Apple, Google, Microsoft or any other mainly US company. They, nor their children or grandchildren will be held accountable or even have to deal with whatever comes as a result of this. So realistically don't care. Denmark citizens might get lucky with some deal that exempts them from all sorts of bullshit coming down the line that we won't know about until it's far too late.

Block sales of microchip lithography machines.

Good one. Revoke restrictions on sales to countries US blocks too. China will pay more than US. Dissolving NATO is the big one. New alliance with those willing in Europe with Russia and China is needed.

Trump has admitted that he doesn't care about any resources in Greenland (very expensive to develop and far from markets. Rare earths are for people who want to build EVs and wind turbines). This means that the only purpose of replacing NATO bases with US bases there is to be closer to striking/threatening Europe. If US has cozy/colonial role over Europe and it wanted to target Russia, then it would use EU/NATO bases to do it, and EU, as loyal puppy, is totally accommodating and supportive of that suicidal mission. US control of Greenland, within a colonial NATO, offers 0 additional threat platforms against Russia.

When the US says it is a national security priority for it to control Greenland, it is automatically a much bigger national security priority for Europe to control it, and then needing to use Russia and China's help to control it.

China will pay more than US. Dissolving NATO is the big one. New alliance with those willing in Europe with Russia and China is needed.

Allying with other fascist enemy nations is not a productive way to fight back against the usa.

Propaganda for corrupt "liberal supremacy" is what is threatening you, and will destroy you, if you allow your rulers, whose political capital is entirely given to them by the CIA, to continue delivery your soul to US colonial master. When CIA and oligarchy are given free speech, their supremacist speech, bribery, extortion power drowns out all other speech, and the liberalism values justification of the fascist supremacism is a lie.

Allying with multi polar world was always consistent with genuine democratic values compared to "thou shalt diminish and kill those less liberal and CIA-ruled than us." It is absolute only path to defending Europe from USA. CIA inspired "values" are not there to help.

I get that you're deep into some strange conspiracy theories. But no, aligning with fascist enemy nations is not a democratic value. It is also not the only path to defending the eu by any stretch of the imagination when nuclear weapons exist.

China yes, but fuck Russia.

Almost as bad as the US...

And close all US military bases in Europe. We don't need troops from a fascist dictator on our continent.

That's a good first step. Then, tax the hell out of US majors and tech companies

Then do it. Make us hurt.

This will hurt everyone. We can only hope it hurts the US enough to stop this shit but I ain't holding my breath

In the end it is one of those classical lose - lose situations.

They won't. BACO.

America is brandishing a shotgun and the EU is threatening to take it off the christmas card list!?

Same thing the eu did to russia lmfao

Please do and expel our ambassadors. Close us off and isolate us. I say this because the more it happens. The more the drooling masses here are made to feel the reality of the situation the better. You simply would not believe the level of cognitive dissonance. These people are deluded.

Sell US treasuries, or maybe Kier could stop buying them like they are 2 for 1

The only thing these ghouls care about is money and their lives. If removing their ilk is impossible, hit their profit margins. Seriously. I don't know why anyone with power and/or influence in this world are capitulating to this govt. and the cry-baby-bitches currently holding the reigns.

If Fascism is Capitalism when it's threatened by progressive ideas, then stopping it requires might and/or money. If the world can't stop the might of a rouge nation, stop the money instead. Make this country suffer economically and you'll see them fold faster than the Democrats did when the shutdown threatened holiday travel and consumer spending!

Left wingers to the rescue! Once again. Was a shitty deal to begin with...

Let’s give everyone uniting against EPP hegemony cred this time, this is encouraging development politically, even if I wasn’t able to understand how much power the parliament has on this issue (?)

They have to approve it. So, all the power.

shut it all down. cut them off.