Hours After US Citizen Shot Dead by ICE, JD Vance Says ‘Door-to-Door’ Operations Are Coming | Common Dreams
1d 21h ago by mander.xyz/u/fossilesque in politics from www.commondreams.org
Time for all those 2A, Castle Doctrine, "tally-ho lads!" types to start defending their homes, right?
........right?
The tyranny that they were always talking about has finally arrived so surely any moment now
Except all those castle doctrine types are the ones in the ICE gear.
They're the ones implementing the tyranny
For this particular instance can I interest you in some Rolf?
I can hear this image
Got my boom stick ready.
Just as the Founding Fathers intended.
Tally Ho
Sitting on Lemmy waiting for some 338LM brass to dry in the oven then I'm back to the press to fill and seat everything. Have been putting off loading for my precision rig but recent events have introduced some new urgency to that task.
I hear ya. All of a sudden projects that have been "some day" turned into "right the hell now".
This is part of why I like buy once cry once, and extend that logic it to fully setting up each platform with whichever accessories I think it needs to be complete. Doesn't eliminate all projects or anything but it's a habit I wanted to build.
In my case I meant more like finally buying the supplies I need to finish my trauma bag, get off my ass and finish the mesh repeaters I've been building, get a better plate for my carrier, make a set comms plan with family, that sort of thing.
You know, all the mundane, "not as fun as my guns" stuff thats still just as important.
Ahh gotcha. Ever done one of those stop the bleed classes? The instructor there helped me with kit essentials and the hands on stuff is nice.
Yeah, it was great. I did one about 5 years ago when I thought my first aid from the Navy was getting rusty.
Also... consider the go-bag and updating those passports if they have expired and GTFO... or, conversely, go analog and to the mountains. Never considered that Go Wolverines might be up against the US Gestopo vs the "Soviets."
I hadn't been loading much of anything since the price of powder and primers went up 2-3x. But, understand that sense of urgency. Got my order of heavy-weight pills recently, so going to dust off my press and spend some time on it this weekend.
Didn't consider we should have resumed our reloading operation a year ago.
Actually, yes.
I am completely against violent protests. Take a look at my post history; it's real. Letting protests turn violent is a great way to give even more power to the fascists.
But jesus fucking christ, if they're fool enough to take their goddamn goon show on the road and start banging on doors, whatever happens next is on them.
Or to put it another way, for fascists hell bent on racial purity that's one unironic way to chlorinate the piss out of the gene pool, I suppose.
Are you unable to articulate your own thoughts? It can't be that compelling if you can't even bring it yourself. Look at you so intellectually helpless you have to fling someone else's social media at me, like the whole chunk, as though you can't figure it out.
If you can, point to the place on the image that is your direct answer to my comment, otherwise it's just regurge.
Be sure to include how Charlottesville (Trump's favorite, where they killed Heather Heyer) was a grand success, and Minneapolis a few years ago (George Floyd) and Portland, etc. Give examples of recent violent protests in the US that have been grand examples of your premise, because we've had them, and they are simply not remembered except as the own-goals they are. Or maybe you're a J-6 fan? Not sure, couldn't tell from what you didn't write, lol.
You're just a secondhand larper using someone else's words to provoke other people to fight.
I don't get your agenda, you seem to be mostly contrarian and weirdly naive? Academic almost in your "analysis", and calling others Larpers while spending a lot of time on your keyboard. Ridiculous.
All these losers with defense fantasy syndrome trying to prey on people is pretty gross. People need to start thinking and stop being reactive.
Next time you wanna tell me you're a bootlicker, don't throw paragraphs at me. One sentence will be enough.
Aw, you wrote it yourself. I'm proud of you. Yet still no credible defense of violent protest in your own words, just an ad hominem attack because you possess nothing else.
Self defense is different than protesting.
People invading homes without legal cause is a time for self defense.
Indeed it is. Look at the comment to which I responded; that's what I was saying.
Sure but they'll keep escalating so either people do something or just accept it and roll over.
I can't, my state has made it nearly impossible for the average citizen to purchase a firearm and there's now a poll tax I mean racist tax I mean background check fee... Because there's already a federal background check but now my state patrol does the exact same background check using the exact same database but it takes them weeks longer to process and I still have to pay for it. Anyways probably easier for some fascist to roll in and just take my stuff the way the founding fathers intended.
Oh and anything with a threaded barrel is banned too so I hope my family is prepared to go deaf if I ever get around to purchasing that firearm.
Let me introduce you to black powder. Protecting your rights since we kicked it all off on April 19, 1775.
Plus, nowadays you can get a drop-in conversion cylinder to go from powder to modern cartridges without an FFL.
It's in their interest to make exercising your rights difficult. Don't let them.
Ghost gun
Funny enough bills were introduced to the state legislature a few days ago to ban all cad or 3d printed firearms. Apparently by requiring an additional device be attached to the printer to detect if it's producing a firearm?
Fun times.
Soooo ignore them and do it anyway. 3D2A
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There's not a single state where it's impossible for you to buy a firearm. At most we're talking a wait period and maybe a restriction on "assault style" weapons. Which basically means you can buy a hunting rifle with a high capacity chambered in the same rounds. Effectively the same capabilities
It's okay that you are ignorant of some laws. Lookup WA state firearm purchase restrictions for 2026. Enjoy your long and confusing read. And maybe do a little research before you yap about something you have no fucking clue about.
A free online class, passing a background check, and waiting 10 days is not impossible. As of today the only other requirement is being 21.
Beginning in 2027 you will need a state permit. Which requires nothing new except fingerprinting and a fee ($95). The state then must issue, per the law, the permit in 30 days. This is basically many states concealed carry permit rules.
So yeah this is not impossible by any stretch of the imagination. A simple Google search even reveals that there are gun stores operating in your state. Crazy to imagine they operate with it being impossible to sell guns.
Unless you're under 21 the only thing preventing you from buying a gun is a criminal record, severe mental illness leading to being institutionalized, or laziness.
NY?
Renee Nicole Good was unarmed, and she was shot in the face by ICE. I bet a lot of people will figure that if they're going to murder us anyway...
An unarmed, not-quite-middle-aged, white, mother-of-three, native-born citizen, who had been idling in her mom-mobile full of pets and kids' toys.
Early 40s isn't middle-aged?
Early 40's is middle aged, you are correct. 37 isn't however.
Fuck yeah I'm still young!!
Fuck, I'm old
You're only as old as you feel!
Fuck, I'm old
Josh Johnson and Ashley Gavin had this debate on What's News With You this week. Turns out lesbians have a lower life expectancy than black men in the US.
You're assuming I'm being truthful lol I dont give out that info online
37x2 is 74. That seems pretty middle aged to me.
37
"I'm 37, I'm not old!"
I mean most people won't make it to 80, so yeah, I'd say if you've hit 40 you're definitely middle aged. Either way, I'm too poor to have a mid-life crisis so it doesn't really matter much.
My whole life has been a economic crisis
a CaR iS a DeAdLy WeApOn
What she almost killed the ICE agent according to the government. I mean there is video of him walking away. What a hero so close to death and he managed to walk away.
Yeah, he sauntered away... like could not be arsed to provide any kind of aid to the harm he inflicted. He's a grown up Rittenhouse.
You wouldn't happen to be hiding any jews Hispanics in your home now would you?
The difference between ICE and the SS is lessening by the minute.
Other than the spelling what is the difference?
die Sprache
Door to door eh?
They better have a fucking stack of warrants.
Otherwise my answer is pretty fucking simple.
Time for a road trip and leaving the Butler to watch the house
“I call him ‘General Boomba’”
God dammit that was a good one. Lol.
Everquest memory unlocked.
Boris is the god damn hero that we need.
For any poor bastards not in the know, here's 162 pounds of Tannerite some rednecks placed in the center of a barn.
(You'll want to be at about 2:19 for the money shot.)
Those video doorbells might actually sell better with a such an upgrade.
“Using the new Ring “blow it” option, the camera will self destruct in a defensive measure, protecting your home, taking down an invader, and alerting everyone within earshot. This of course destroys the doorbell but we’ll happily sell you replacements if you ever get out of jail. We think you’re going to love it.”
When the government breaks the 4th to crack down on the 1st there's still the 2nd.
2A exists for when all the other amendments fail.
When they knock down your front door how you going to come, with your hand on your head or the trigger of your gun?
Ooooooo ooo THE GUNS OF BRIXTON
-Joe Stummer
Remember, if you get one, take all his weapons and ammo, and arm someone else.
Idk if Joe wrote it, but I think that's bassist Paul Simonon singing it.
Practice appropriate trigger safety. Come with a readied weapon obviously, but keep that finger off the trigger until the split second before it's necessary.
It's a song from The Clash
What's your point?
I believe that "When they kick at your front door how you going to come? With your hands on your head or using proper trigger discipline with your gun?" doesn't fit the syllable count.
A colleague told me-- "don't go out there, hide at home." I waz like what? I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees. They are literally ripping up our Bill of Rights, our Constitution... don't you stand for anything? Apparently not. Your solution is to be a "Good German" and avert your eyes? WTF. I don't think we are good friends anymore.
Ah, respect. Though I think you could slip "or by the trigger" without much fuss.
My point is that the song is topical enough to warrant practical commentary.
You can have trigger discipline and still put your finger on the trigger. I mean, you have to do that to shoot the gun. You know, like when some sort of nazi paramilitary organization is knocking at your door.
I was also playing The Clash.... "Know Your Rights" and "Working for the Clampdown" as well as "Guns of Brixton." Then I had to go down the DK road... "We've Got a Bigger Problem Now." and to think.. we were freaked out then... how far things have fallen.
A friendly welcome.
Friendly welcome fire.
Aim it down from above the door frame with a 3s delay.
Door to door?
And their justification for any of this is...what?
I think they gave up on justifications a while ago.
"Don't worry, Dave. All we wanna do is kill you."
We’re going to have people living in other people’s attics and basements for security soon, aren’t we?
What has this country come to? I don’t even recognize it anymore. Its collective values have separated so starkly from mine that I am not sure I can continue living here.
The people are too addled with medications or health conditions to do much beside pull levers in the factory, pay bills, eat, and shit.
The population has been conditioned to be slaughterable animals long ago.
But I need muh guns incase the gubernment over steps.
It's getting spooky watching American television. It's like watching ghosts of what America used to be, or at least what I used to believe it was. The reality of what America has become hasn't impacted television much yet.
The nation of immigrants trying to destroy immigrants.
Same, but I don't have the resources or connections to move anywhere else. My wife and I don't have kids to protect, so we've been seriously considering just driving out to the desert and ending it.
Edit: My mom and her wife are still alive, that's really the only thing keeping me alive. If anyone comes for them, I will kill them.
Nazi America, folks.
If this nation had any sense we could abolish the Republican party and never allow conservatives to hold power ever again.
Goodbye democrats and Republicans, hello bright future.
Buy your shotguns now, folks.
Also, slug ammo is a must. You'll need to get through that armor they wear and that's your best bet. Teach the others in your house how to shoot and gun safety.
Not necessarily. You can aim with buckshot in the crotch area and get devastating results.
This is true. Same with buckshot to the face....
Yeah, but time utill death and pain levels are different. 🙃
Thats true. But someone can still shoot back with a groin shot. They can pull the trigger if there head is ventilated. Usually.
Yeah, but people tend to cover their head in first place. So, I guess that the crotch area is the second best place to aim if person wears the body armor.
Thanks for the tip
Leg meta IRL
Slugs aren't going through armour. It well lay them flat but a plug of lead is not going through armour.
Best you can do with a shotgun. I guess.
Their faces aren’t armoured. They like shooting in the face, we can return the favour.
Why in the world would you use steel over lead?
I suppose that author meant using steel birdshot and buckshot as AP rounds. But, sadly, even steel buckshot doesn't work well against body armor while also doesn't provide much difference in creating a wound channel. But, the other thing is slugs, since there exist non-lead(copper, brass, bronze, iron, steel) slugs, which indeed act as good AP rounds. These ones are a real deal even against military armor rated for the assault rifles.
Thank you! I forgot to take in account the body armor aspect of bird shot vs slugs. I'll delete my comment. My brother was weapons specialist in the army. So I just poorly regurgitated what he told me to use for home defense back in 2020.
for the environment.
You're just describing what a shotgun shell is. The "small metal balls" could be steel, lead, bismuth, or anything else really
I guess this is our chance to set up a home alone booby trap obstacle course
"A 9 year old boy has become casus belli for the new civil war as he trapped immigration officials in a rube Goldberg machine of their nightmares. More after the break"
Run Mcauley!
i'm a bad person. i'm not gonna deny being a bad person.
Time to buy a gun. Been saving up since the inauguration.
Yep.
Lifelong anti-gun libtard here. I'm in the process of getting armed. Been talking to a friend about my best options. Looking to also get concealed carry with concealed carry insurance.
It brings me no joy to hear you were completely wrong. Expected? Of course. But there is nothing to celebrate here. Not that there ever was in the "good times".
www.socialistRA.org
Great idea with the insurance bit. I’m thinking of signing up for Attorneys on Retainer as I’ve heard good things about them.
AR-15 if they're legal where you are is a good start. Lever action 30-30 otherwise.
"Under No Pretext"
Don't skimp on the optic
being a leftist in a red state may finally have a benefit
I wouldn't even open it at that point. I wouldn't trust anything they claim to have. If they have a legit warrant, then they'll have to find their own way in.
Open a windows above the front door and taint them ala French knight from Monty python a the holy grail.
I'm not sure whether you're responding to the warrant, the aliens, or the mormons, but I agree
They perfectly copy of the Germans 90 years ago. Then they called it Razzia's (door to door manhunt) and it was done by the Gestapo (ICE) and lead by the SS (Trump and Vance).
Reverse evolution... and the ppl are stunned... they only shout. What a downfall.
Door to door murder. And people wonder why I'm stressed about the nazis invading my country.
Yep, they’ll absolutely turn on the rest of us once this is done.
But voting is difficult. I might lose my job and shit. It’s on a weekday. It’s hard. I don’t have to. It doesn’t make a difference anyway. Piss and moan.
We won’t make it to the next election. That’s the point. Even if we do and he loses, he’ll say it was rigged and ignore it and by then there won’t be enough people left to fight back.
If there actually is an election, by all means vote, but don’t rely on democracy as the only option you have.
Or while it's being done, no one ever accused them of being smart.
Do you guys only get one day to vote ?
I’m not American and no. Thanks for the reminder on that.
That in fact makes it worse because it makes voting even easier.
They’ve already been doing door to door ops. See the Chicago apt building as an example.
There's a reason they're pulling that shit in Chicago. Same reason spree shooters choose gun free zones.
Same reason spree shooters choose gun free zones.
LOL. Might wanna get acquainted with what reality says 'bout that...
Since you folks love "common sense" so much, it's just common sense that unarmed people are easier to massacre and reality backs that up in spades.
Does it now? Prove it.
They targeted a very poor neighborhood with a large migrant population.
Since you can die in any way:
People are missing the point that trump wants to provoke a violent response, so he can justify imposing martial law and cancelling the elections.
He's only going to keep pushing harder until he gets it.
He’s only going to keep pushing harder until he gets it.
Which is why we should just have a violent response now. If we don't we're just complying in advance. This compliance is why people are in Concentration Camps and Mrs. Good lost her life. We should have violently opposed them from the start. and every day we delay more people are being killed, raped, and enslaved.
Exactly. They are looking for an excuse for what they are going to do anyway. There’s no incentive for compliance.
If they are really going to go door to door, there is no possible way they they will all survive. It’s impossible. They are fodder. And honestly, good.
“Cut off their tails, throw them back in the water. Let them drown.” https://youtu.be/6sDviM1VPa0
Violent or not violent they’ll continue to stomp on peoples rights. I’d rather not take it up the ass peacefully once they come to my door.
If they declare Martial law, I’m comfortable dying at this point because I cannot be abused anymore by this government and it’s lack of usefulness for its people.
It doesn't matter. They will find a justification whether we fight back or not. Stop obeying in advance.
Violence is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
This is starting to look disturbingly like Germany in the 1930s.
Indeed it does. And in the US, "Door to Door" operations will probably end up in door-to-door shootings. Both by and of agents - I can understand if someone in a "stand your ground" state shoots some masked idiots who don't want to identify themselves when breaking in...
We can only hope
When TF will the sheep wake up?
"GESTAPO-I mean ICE... OPEN UP!!!"
Kristallnacht 2026!
Lock and load til the block explodes
It might be time to install better deadlocks and iron cages for the windows.
They are desperate for it to escalate. What a deplorable disgusting group of people.
JD Vance:
Fat little Nazi storm trooper
Reminder for Nazi fascist scum: liberals own guns. A lot of libs are gun fanatics and they know how to use them a lot better.
Been shooting guns my whole life. Been left my whole life.
My dad has been liberal ever since I could remember. I grew up on over 13 acres with a backstop for shooting. People are typically surprised when they find out I have firearms and am a good shot. I've been encouraging those around me to start training and getting familiar with firearms.
And those guns are registered, so they’ll just target gun owners who vote blue first, especially recent purchasers.
We need more than guns. We needs something everyone has access to that they aren’t tracking ownership of. Something people can defend themselves with that ICE won’t know beforehand who has one or not.
They can exploit the same lax regulations to get unregistered firearms that the right does
I mean. There's a lot of options there.
Anyone want to bet the gun manufacturers are loving every second of this?
My husband and I made peace that if these goons try to come to our door, we’re both dead and maybe taking one of them with us.
Especially if they try to break in.
Gonna be lots of dead door busters, then. Home invasion is not something many people will put up with if they don't have to
Door to door gives you time to prepare!
door to door means violent confrontation is not on the streets, in public, but in private where there will be less witnesses. Easier to control the narrative without dozens of cell phone videos from every possible angle.
Maybe when thugs break down Frank Freeway's front door, beat the shit out of his kids, and take what they want, that will finally piss off enough people.
Not too likely, but maybe?
Bring your level fours shitheads.
Ah, so they'll have Article III warrants?
Welp, time to start keeping my gun by the front door
This plus states handing over voter registration is not good. Time have a go bag ready.
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