Judge orders Lindsey Halligan to explain why she's still serving as U.S. attorney after previous ruling against her
2d 3h ago by lemmy.world/u/MicroWave in politics from www.nbcnews.com
A separate judge had ruled that Halligan, who brought cases against former FBI Director James Comey and New York Attorney General Letitia James, was unlawfully appointed.
A federal judge Tuesday ordered Trump ally Lindsey Halligan to explain why she continues to call herself the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia even though another judge determined in November that she had been unlawfully appointed to the position.
U.S. District Judge David Novak of Richmond issued a three-page order demanding to know why Halligan is still serving in the post. Halligan, who unsuccessfully prosecuted former FBI Direct James Comey and New York Attorney General Letitia James, is also referred to as U.S. attorney by the Justice Department in official documents.
The judge's order is unusual because he issued it on his own, not at the request of defense attorneys. It came in a case involving a carjacking and attempted bank robbery suspect who was indicted last month.
fucking arrest her and put her in jail wtf is going on
See your honor..... We've run into a problem. They actually don't even make jails for rich white women.
Yeah they do, it's the one Ghislaine Maxwell is in. The one that's basically a regular house that you can't leave.
Tbf she's not actually wealthy. Her father was at one point, but his business empire collapsed into debt. She's just a heiress with no inheritance who had lots of connections with wealthy people.
Afaik she's worth at least 5m. Which, that sounds rich to me.
That’s not all that rich. Which is probably why she’s in prison.
Where I live, a single family home costs well over a million dollars. Two million in a “nice” neighborhood. Take the rest of that and put it in a diversified brokerage account, you can probably make enough each month to live as if you had a regular middle class job but without working. I wouldn’t call that “rich.” That’s basically just early retirement.
Sure would be nice though.
Oh, sorry, I meant Halligan. Yeah no you’re probably right about Maxwell, idk.
dude. if you have SEVEN digits, ~15x the average annual income, to spend on a home and still have enough to never work again, you are rich
If she's got a penny, she's got millions squirrelled away somewhere. She was Epstein for years, and he had billions. Surely he siphoned some to her as well. And a guy like Epstein definitely knows how to hide money in Cayman, or Bahamian, or Swiss, etc. banks.
There's a whole other branch of the Epstein case that is seldom mentioned: the financial case. There's an investigation into the money trails, and that's could lead to more actionable information than all the gossipy stuff we've seen so far.
Which makes her part of that class
She has a wealth of knowledge relating to the wealthy.
Maxwell has been complimentary of her prison saying "the staff is very responsive..."
Staff. Responsive. Fuck. Me.
That's hilarious, because when I was in jail the staff wasn't even responsive when I had a medical emergency...
have her explain from a jail cell
Rule of law for thee but not for me
We need to stop affording these people the protection of the same laws they disregard daily. Either they are bound and protected, or unbound and unprotected. PERIOD.
Most law enforcement are MAGA or conservative voting republicans.
The day you convince the entire population of left-leaning voters to apply for law enforcement jobs, you will finally see a push to enforce the fucking law.
Right now, all this anger and confusion as to why this bitch is not in jail and still gets to do whatever the fuck she wants, is because none of us are in a position of power to do anything about it; y'all constantly want other people to do things for you instead of doing it your-fucking-self.
You want Nazis to stop spreading Christian fascist propaganda on the streets? Instead of begging CEOs and cops, try organized armed protesting (like the Black Panthers). Want the MAGA conservatives in jail? Instead of hoping someone will grow some balls to actually arrest them, try aggressive obstructive protests in front of the elected officials private homes and offices (they dont get to leave their desks or relax at home until shit gets fixed).
Nothing will ever get fixed in your lifetime if the shit of complaining online persists. We gotta physically and aggressively spread our rhetoric, using the very same tactics MAGA and fascists have been using globally to resurge all over, and use it against them.
or unbound and unprotected
This is where the term “outlaw” came from. Basically, the local authorities would determine that someone had committed so many crimes that they were no longer protected by the law. They could be killed on sight, because the laws against murder no longer protected the outlaw.
Trump-appointed judge from season 1, by the way
from season 1
LMFAO
The answer is clear: the regime does not abide by laws or court rulings - the US has now abandoned even the appearance of being a constitutional state. If US citizens have a problem with this, they should rise up against all the corruption and all the crimes. However, since they are not doing so, we will continue to read news stories like this.
You have any resources for us to use to "rise up"? Guns, ammo, money, volunteer time? Otherwise you are spreading useless rhetoric like everyone else and this needs to stop, not escalate.
Organize a general strike. Bring the country to a standstill until you get rid of this regime while you still can. Don't put it off and don't complain because it causes you economic difficulties. The reason is simple: if you don't act now, you will end up in a dictatorship - and then things will get much worse.
Source: I am German, perhaps you know our history.
I wish people better understood the logistics of a general strike.
For the record my people were forced off their land by the US government almost 200 years ago in an event called the Trail of Tears. This has always been a dictatorship for some.
'Organize a general strike'
You mean the thing they quash here with prejudice? The thing the US will build a jail on top of you for? The thing that they've prevented a majority of Americans from even attempting with the fucked social net and the paycheck-to-paycheck existence, dangling you just above homelessness (which they do nothing to fix or help people who are)?
Maybe in another part of the country I could feel that my neighbors and myself would provide and help one another, but I can't even get these people to pick up their dog shit, let alone vote in their own best interests, or god forbid, take on the government that's telling them I'm the devil and my cohorts are demons.
I agree with the want for one, but I think people's wants and wishes get in the way of the colder reality. I used to think things like the trail of tears would be impossible to happen in the modern day here with technology and social mediabl, but honestly? I think the government would live stream it at this point
I'm sorry for your people, but the statement still stands. Life will only get worse for all people who are not white - and even for white people, as long as they are not rich. Unfortunately, that's how it is with tyrants.
Yeah but a general strike has less than a snowballs chance in hell of ever succeeding. Succession or even just fucking killing these people would be unironically easier than doing a general strike because with those the most you need is state level support or a particularly well armed lynch mob.
The fact of the matter is you will never see a general strike within the territory of the United States so long as it stands.
Well, that's true, and that's why US citizens are so absurdly exploited and ruled by a child molester who gets away with everything he does with impunity - this is the true American spirit.
There is no such thing as the American spirit just as there is no such thing as the Asian spirit or African spirit or European spirit. The US is about 100+ nations jammed together raised apon the delusional propaganda of one nation under God or some trite, the fact of the matter is the US is too big physically and by population. Fact of the matter is this shithole of an empire has outlasted its usefulness and needs to join the Romans in the history books.
She will just ignore the judge, not like he will do anything. America we are done.
Yes, under this regime, the US is no longer a constitutional state. And that is why I believe it is impossible to remove the regime by constitutional means. Some people point to the midterms and say that the president will then be a lame duck. That applies to presidents who abide by the law, but not to one who has no scruples whatsoever. Waiting to see what happens will only give the orange child molester more time.
Because there are no consequences to her continuing to commit fraud.
There will be, but the process has to do this first
I like your unwarranted optimism
There will be no consequences until these trash humans are all gone. Unless she makes a man or trump mad at her.
Novak gave Halligan seven days to respond in writing “explaining the basis for ... identification of herself as the United States Attorney, notwithstanding Judge Currie’s contrary ruling. She shall also set forth the reasons why this Court should not strike Ms. Halligan’s identification of herself as United States Attorney from the indictment in this matter.”
The judge’s order goes on to say Halligan "shall further explain why her identification does not constitute a false or misleading statement." Novak also alluded to potential disciplinary action and demanded that Halligan sign her response.
Judge big mad
The answer for these people is to hold them without bail awaiting charges... Then don't bother bringing chargers until the current regime is toppled. They can't be pardoned, because there's no conviction. Someone could order that they be released... But the judge/jail/court can, and should just ignore that order. Kevin mitnick was held for 4.5 years without bail, and without a trial. We already have a precedent
Pardons can be issued prior to conviction. FYI.
Not for state charges, right?
That would fall to the state government and how those powers are handled. But in the case from this post it would be federal.
Because the only way these religious extremist pedophiles will leave office is in body bags
"Don't let them kill me."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFYMsGj3ZhI
What the fuck? After I heard about the previous court ruling I figured that would be the end of it. They're just flatly ignoring the judge on this? If I were a jljudge, I'd start tossing all cases brought by the eastern district of VA until she is no longer leading the division.
I'd start by issuing an arrest warrant for contempt of court.
Because she's hot in a specific "Trump's preferred kind of hot" way. Come on people is it really that hard to see
I am not seeing it, she has to be at least 30 years older than Trump Prefers
This is just so, so, fucking stupid.
An incompetent imbecile ignores the law, and then ignores the bench
But, this bit at the end of the article got me:
Other judges in the district have previously expressed their frustration with Halligan, including one who now places an asterisk next to Halligan’s name on every court document and next to it refers to Currie's ruling from November
Maybe if I get high enough later, I’ll see if I can find any of these asterisks.
Is it because no one is stopping her?
No need to, it's just that district taking a loss on every single case they bring. Eventually having ineffectual prosecution for an entire district will cause the administration huge issues for being weak on crime.
Dismissing every case she brings with prejudice seems like the only viable response the judges have.
That's what will likely happen and she'll get sanctioned along with her office.
This is like a metaphor for this entire administration. Just remarkably ignorant, incompetent people, stumbling around the government breaking things, and thinking it's the greatest idea ever.
Because the judge has no power to enforce. That lies under the executive. Which other "judges" have determined is above the law. Congratulations. You played yourself judicial branch.
You played yourself judicial branch.
No they didn't. They played us. This was their plan the whole time. An unaccountable, all powerful dictator president.
Halligan: "Well, Judge, in this administration, we typically ignore judges who rule against us".
"Oh, pish posh."
Since when do Republicans obey laws or rules?
The actual ruling, should anyone care to read it:
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vaed.586310/gov.uscourts.vaed.586310.16.0.pdf
TL;DR: the judge schools her like she's a first year law student, lol
"Well, you see, it's quite easy. Basically an orange paedophile thinks I'm good to look at and...erm, that's it.
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Ohhhh, haha, I nearly forgot, it's also probably easy to throw me under the bus if shit hits the fan. But mainly the I'm good to look at thing."
Civil Contempt. Astronomical fines. Do it.
People should also be asking if it is considered to be grand theft. She's stealing the taxpayers money by illegally holding that position and collecting the wages for it
The judge specifically ordered her to personally sign her pleading, so that and more may be on the horizon for her.
who's going to stop her? the Marshalls? like... the judiciary is basically impotent. what did Jackson say about the supreme court? "let them stop me" or some such.
I like that the lie of the rule of law is being laid bare. abolish the fucking law.