In 'Unhinged' Rant, Miller Says US Has Right to Take Over Any Country For Its Resources
2d 14h ago by lemmy.world/u/return2ozma in news from www.commondreams.org
If you want to spend 75 minutes learning entirely too much about this fucker, I highly recommend this video:
WATCH!
Warmbo broke containment! Warmbo found the fediverse! Everybody panic!
FUCK!
Everyone hide your cans of creamed corn!!
I watched this a few weeks ago. Despite being incredibly terrible subject matter, it's borderline required viewing. This fucking Wormtongue is reprehensible.
I mean, is that really fair? Wormtongue was important to Saruman's plans, Miller I think is just a generic vindictive bald dude to The Dump.
What they did in Venezuela was so reprehensible that this is really the only possible defense. You can't murder a bunch of innocent people to capture a drug trafficker and think that you get the moral high ground. If they can arrest Maduro and bring him to the US, then Venezuela should be able to arrest Trump for murder and bring him to Venezuela.
There is no moral high ground. There is no good outcome. This is just what happens when evil people gain control of the world's most powerful military.
The fact that he’s allowed to be a public spokesperson for the administration speaks wonders. Wormtongue is supposed to be whispering in the shadows like he was in the first term. He’s now the public face of the mask off authoritarian message that keeps ramping up.
I was just saying tonight - the fact that we're seeing more and more of racist Nosferatu means things are getting much worse. They are have dropped all pretense of giving a shit. They're not even giving us lies anymore. It's now just "fuck you that's why".
His role is to throw shit around. It has two purposes.
It works as a distraction from what the actual administration is doing, but they're also watching if any of the shit sticks.
Vance is doing the same.
A lie needs to be told 3 times for anyone to believe it, so they're "priming the pump" for Trump to deliver the final lie and make his followers believe that it's the right thing to do.
Wannabe Henry Kissenger without the charisma, intellect, ability to disguise evil as perfectly logical foreign policy.
Stephen "PeeWee Himmler" Miller is behind most of the bad stuff in this administration, and behind ALL of the immigration stuff. Trump has already floated him as the guy to be in charge of running Venezuela. He will turn it into a slave colony, and force them to pump their oil for us. And worse.
The Dems need to make him as much of the face of MAGA as Trump, and I mean that literally. He is one of the most repellent people on the planet, and just looking at his picture gives you an accurate first impression. Most of America has never even heard of this guy, yet he is Trump's most trusted and influential advisor.
The Dems need to make every voter aware of PeeWee Himmler, and make him a major issue in the upcoming Midterm Elections. Trump has some mysterious charisma that's lost on me, but PeeWee Himmler has an anti-charisma like I've never seen before. To just see him is to dislike him, but as you get to know him, you realize that he's actually pure evil, like Wormtongue whispering poison in the demented Trump's ear.
Make him a central figure in MAGA, second only to Trump, and run against him hard. Just like Trump, he has a notoriously thin skin, so besides making him known, it will have the effect of humiliating him.
If we can't get these traitors out of office, we can at least make sure that they don't get to luxuriate in their evil power, make them guard their safety, and fight hard for everything they want that they thought would be easy to take. We have to harass them mercilessly, every minute of every day, and Stephen "PeeWee Himmler" Miller needs to be taking a LOT of that harassment.
An upvote just for PeeWee Himmler. 🫠
Rapist logic. I did what I did because I was strong enough to take what I want.
Absolutely disgusting.
Same logic for any violent unhinged asshole.
It's always been like this.
This is how America acted for decades, but just denying it.
Tbh it's great they are just calling it openly, no need to convince people that they want to enslave latin America.
They likely really screwed though - cuz if u announce this moral foundation they won't get any support from locals, they basically killed it themselves.
That's the thing that binds together the youngest techbro and the oldest oil baron.
Antisocial "might makes right and I'm going to win" mentalities.
What world did you think we lived in before? Just curious.
One where at least some countries learned something from WW2?
Would you ascribe that to some sudden evolutionary species-wide shift in the human genome?
We're the same hungry short-sighted horrific apes as four generations ago. And now that the good cheap energy is starting to run out, we will start hacking each other to death for crumbs.
It ain't the Care Bears out there.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rRVgSyZ6Gtg
This thread’s title is not sensational. Dudes a childish maniac with influence over the use of nuclear weapons.
And MAGA worshippers are watching with glee.
As a non-Merican I hope the Union falls apart before Trump can crown himself King of America.
As an American, I hope for the same. The New England Federation will probably be pretty chill. Probably high taxes even for the poors though
The New England Federation will probably be pretty chill.
Please god let Pennsylvania join. Or even better, just the eastern part.
Ooohh, I was on the fence about New York, but if they can join us I suppose yinz can too
So, by that same logic, any other country can, if it has the resources, kill him because reasons, right? If international rules are over...
I mean effectively that's basically what they are calling for... Hell I think that's half what they are hoping for... either another country makes an attempt to attack and we get to test out our detection and defenses before launching a sharp counter and claiming whatever country attacks as our own. Or everyone's too afraid to, and then we leverage our position as the unstable psychopath bully that everyone just gives whatever it asks for in the hopes that they can avoid being the next bullying target.
Even the world vs the United States would be a bad idea. We're geographically isolated from major military powers, and unless there is civil war and regional breakup (nowhere close to happening), the US is impossible to seriously threaten.
It also doesn't make sense for anybody to pick a fight with the US, as Trump is destroying both the American economy and global influence. Nobody can do more damage to America than Trump, so placating him in surface level ways while preparing a costly defensive strategy is the smart move.
The problem is what happens when surface level isn't enough... IE with the Venezuela having happened, what's the response to do for Canada and Greenland. When trump says "OK we're taking these now, join us or we'll take it by force". How should the other nations respond?
They should already have stopped all trade and cooperation with us but they haven't so that's a good place to start.
Bunker up and show strength. Make it clear a war won't be easy, and he'll go after weaker nations.
I'd say to put in comparison... Canada and Greenland probably should view themselves as in the same position as Ukraine. The parallels are kind of scary there. IE they sure as hell are doing an impressive job of holding their ground against a much bigger army... but the death toll is horrific... and I can't imagine the difficult decisions for everyone with regards to how dangerous it is to get involved. While both Putin and Trump are horrible actors... Trump I can't help but get the feeling he doesn't understand the concept of MAD, and actually would launch a nuke.
Trump is fundamentally different from Putin. Putin wants to restore the empire Russia lost with the collapse of the Soviet Union. Trump wants to bully and power trip, but doesn't want an all out war. After he realized attacking Iran might lead to a more protracted war, he immediately tried to deescalate. Lucky for him Iran has big internal issues and didn't really want more problems, but other targets might not back down so easily.
This isn't to say he won't attack Greenland, but it is less likely than most of Latin American. If Europe doesn't do anything meaningful to beef up their defenses, he might do it. However, he wouldn't want a war of attrition against a modern military, but an overwhelming show of force with no clear goal beyond death an mayhem. His strategy is to beat smaller nations until they call him God and bend the knee. He's a bully, not a conquer.
What will be more scary is if he dies in the middle of escalating wars. JD Vance is a weakling who will easily fold to the rabid zealots who might actually want expensive conquest. They might suspend elections and start forever wars to keep power until they collapse under their own weight.
He said himself that strength and power are the only things that matter in the real world. It's only fair I think.
Why was this removed? I didn't advocate for violence. I said that Charlie Kirk and Stephen Miller are endorsing it. I disagree with them, I advocate against violence.
Now we're fuckin' talkin'
New mods? Sir, this Lemmy.world .
.world is known for censoring topics precisely like you're complaining about, as well as having a reputation for some of the most toxic mod behavior across the Lemmy instances*.
Specific mods, plural, on .world are known to encounter comments they disagree with, and go back through user histories looking for unrelated, thin excuses for bans.
I don't care quite enough to go find sources, these are my accumulated observations. But they are fairly well known and uncontroversial, among those who watch such things, I believe.
[*originally said Fediverse in place of Lemmy, bigger claim I realized I wasn't meaning to make at all]
Thanks, I should probably clarify that I'm aware people have mixed experiences and it's not the kind of extreme heavy handedness that I understand Reddit has largely incorporated.
I've been banned from .ml though
That's a badge of honor
And yet there was a whole saga where world admins claimed being pro Luigi, especially mentioning jury nullification, constituted advocating for violence and they had to remove such posts due to 'EU law' according to legal advice they totally received.
I was banned from a group called Late Stage Capitalism, where one of the rules is you're not allowed to support the Democrats and another is you're not allowed to call anyone a "bot" or "tankie" or "paid by Putin"
They banned me for "NBo anticommunist bullshit"
I don't even know what "NBo" means but I'm gonna assume a community that has a rule against calling people "paid by Putin" is not exactly a good bunch of people
My brother is a solid liberal and hates Trump, but for some unknown reason he hopped on Putin's dick years ago. Whenever his defense of Putin descends into bad comedy, he claims that if Putin is actually a bad person then the CIA installed him. Which somehow makes him a good person? I dunno. I assume that some random podcasters somewhere are running around defending Putin because podcasts are my brother's sources for all knowledge.
If I could pick one person in the entire world to just not exist he would easily be in my top 3.
Trump, Musk, Putin, Thiel...Man do I wish I had a Death Note.
Trump will take care of himself. He's nothing without the people telling him what to do. He's doing more damage to the republican party than anyone else ever could.
This dude gave an unhinged rant in high school. None of this should be surprising. He and his wife need to be yeeted into the sun.
Caillou looking mother fucker
So that little shit finally grew up?
Grew older.
People may have shrugged off Trump as a grifter, but Miller struck me as a pathetic excuse for a politician the very first time I saw him
He's a true believer in white nationalism. And he's not strictly wrong, either. In a world of Might Makes Right, the uncontested heavyweight champion can and does have a "right" to send in the goons, because there's no countervailing force.
Miller's got the reins of this monster and he's outspokenly using it in a way the advisors for Obama and Bush and Clinton admins were more sheepish about. But you're foolish to believe the Bin Laden raid into Pakistan was any less internationally criminal than the attack into Caracas. It was just more politically palatable. In the same way, the US support for the overthrow of Assad and the installation of form Al Qaeda in Iraq leader Ahmed al-Shara and our proxy war against Yemen has absolutely been "just about the oil" passing through the Suez Canal.
Miller's committed the unspeakable crime of saying the quiet part out loud. And his voice is annoying to listen to. But he's not breaking from our international policy in a material sense. He's just coming at it like he's six whiskeys deep at the Klan Rally rather than four martinis in at the Yale Business Club.
But you’re foolish to believe the Bin Laden raid into Pakistan was any less internationally criminal than the attack into Caracas.
There's a big difference between kidnapping the president of a country and kidnapping somebody who is internationally wanted and who the country in question denies harbouring.
Sure, both are violations of international law, but one is easy more serious than the other.
There’s a big difference between kidnapping the president of a country and kidnapping somebody who is internationally wanted and who the country in question denies harbouring.
Maduro was wanted in the US for a host of alleged crimes. And the problem wasn't Pakistan hiding Bin Laden, it was their refusal to release him. If he was living in Ahmadabad openly, we'd have still gone in.
Sure, both are violations of international law, but one is easy more serious than the other.
One of them is more popular than the other. That's the only difference. Get enough Americans especially angry at Maduro and the Caracas raid earns far more cheers than jeers.
That's what has hobbled the Trump administration more than his Bush and Reagan era peers. People like him less. The policies haven't really changed.
Maduro was wanted in the US for a host of alleged crimes
IN THE US. Not in Venezuela. Why do USians think their laws apply outside the country?
IN THE US. Not in Venezuela.
To my knowledge, Bin Laden wasn't charged with any crimes in Pakistan.
Why do USians think their laws apply outside the country?
Because they know they have the power to project law enforcement actions over national boundaries.
You don't enforce laws in your own country.
We do not live in a world where might makes right. To argue or think so is an extremely ill thought.
It's a realistic thought. You can cling to moral ideology, but it won't save you from the hard stop at the end of your long rope.
Trump's official power is a directly consequence of his loyal military goon squads. That power ends where the US capacity to inflict violence terminates. J6 failed because the police sided with Congress and the incoming President. The next one won't fail, because all those liberal loyalists will have been purged from their roles.
I don't think it's a realistic thought.
We are more than eight billion people, and I am confident that the majority of us people want to live in a world with clear rules based on some form of justice and not on fickle power.
If you want to be a peasant, it's your choice. If you are a US citizen, I think you should grow some balls and stop this gang of bullies from ruining your country and the whole world.
As a grown-up, with family, friends and influence, I am doing my part to make sure that this is not our future. I am not allowing the crazy guy with the gun to take control over the world. And you shouldn't do that either.
The US have always been evil, but that was not my point, though.
Miller is a Nazi ballsack
Miller isn't even a politician, nobody voted for him.
He is just the evil puppet master of Trump.
So basically mask off right now.
This is getting dark but at this point US is clearly on a path to start using their powerful military to invade and occupy other countries. They are becoming the Nazi Germany of the XXI century but since they have nuclear weapons no one will be able to stop them. This will basically mean new cold war between US and China (and maybe EU if they manage to unite and develop a common position). So yeah, a lot of suffering ahead of us with a chance of nuclear war.
Except that, if China went full cold war with the US, all they'd have to do is stop selling to the US and the entire US economy would collapse. Not to mention that economic sanctions against the US would cripple the country completely, because Trump would just immediately default on the country's debt (as he loves to do) and, oh yeah, the entire NYSE would crater to 0 in about 5 minutes flat.
the scenario in which China just stops selling to the US would probably collapse China's economy too. Think about it. Why is the national debt so high? How is it that high and yet "most prosperous nation in the world"? International investment. There's a lot of money invested from China and other countries. Their investments are only good so long as the American economy is good. International investors can leverage American debt to them as sort of capital asset to thereby invest in other things.....
It's a giant domino effect. When China pulls out, the American economy will likely collapse.... but, then all the money people had invested and had leveraged also collapse.... and so then those international investors can't pay their debts because they have nothing to leverage it with and thus also collapse... and so on and so forth.... the ripple is wide.
But while america has been investing in making itself dependent on foreign resources, China has been investing in making other countries dependent on theirs. I think that, if it were about the math of overall risk, China has less risk from the us. There are wartime measures that can boost an economy, but they require that economy to actually have the resources necessary to function.
the scenario in which China just stops selling to the US would probably collapse China's economy too
While the US may be one of their biggest single customer (representing about 16% of China's exports), they're far from China's only customer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_trading_partners_of_China
The EU is almost the same size of market as the US, and the southeast Asian countries as a group are a larger customer than either of those.
Cutting off the US won't cripple China. Plus the Chinese government is very willing to play the long game if they can foresee an eventual positive outcome for themselves.
Which would suck for American citizens but dictators usually don't really care about those. I don't think this administration sees US public as an obstacle anymore. They survived ICE raids and Epstein backlash. Everyone just stands their ground, there were 0 resignations. They built up their gestapo real fast, National Guard fell in line and the military has no problems fallowing illegal orders. They still take it easy because they don't really have to go full fascist dictator right now but they know nothing will stop them when they have to do it.
Okay, let's be clear: there were MANY resignations, but resignations are not always effective
I'm talking about his core team. Even Hegseth and Waltz are still there. Press secretaries usually don't last long but Leavitt is still there. Kennedy is still there. I might be missing somebody but nobody from his core team resigned. During his previous term he had 4 press secretaries and 4 Chiefs of Staff. This time no one moves despite massive fuckups and controversies.
Ah, yes. They're all sycophants now.
If China stopped selling to the US, it would devastate their economy as much as ours. It's Mutually Assured Economic Destruction.
My only disagreement is that I think it would not be equal, not that there would not be devastation.
Trump's ridiculous tariffs are doing the beginning of the legwork for them.
Trouble is, China and Russia are quite happy to have spheres of influence that don't overlap with the US'. The only issues are places like Taiwan, where the US still has some kind of residual genetic memory that letting China take it over would be bad - though as the US regime manifests its destiny ever harder I expect they'll realise that makes no sense in their own worldview.
It really doesn't leave many big players interested in a rules-based international order. My understanding is that African nations by and large don't give a shit about Ukraine.
The problem for anyone still interested in it is that they're torn between trying to keep whatever scrap of interest the US has in upholding national sovereignty in Ukraine and making any meaningful progress on what happens when Trump finally abandons it for good, or annexes Greenland.
Trying to keep Trump onside makes short-term sense, but in the long term European citizens need to be prepared for worse standards of living as the cost of defence and goods increases because we need to become independent of the US. If you fail to articulate the necessity of that independence, there'll be more backlash against the sacrifice. Far-right parties will be the beneficiaries of that backlash, who will happily put their respective countries under the boot of whichever fascist autocrat they prefer.
100% agree. EU is totally failing on messaging ever since Trump won his first term. They still pretend everything will be fine and they can maintain the status quo indefinitely. I see two options here:
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EU wakes the fuck up and realized they can only survive together, stands up to Trump and unites around a common cause (both politicians and citizens). Trade war will hit us hard but we can save our freedom
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EU continues to fall apart while every country only cares about their own short term interest, each country falls under the influence of USA, China or Russia and becomes a puppet state
Right now we're heading straight for option 2.
How has most of America not heard about this virulent pus bag? He’s on the news constantly, foaming at the mouth, shouting shit that would have gotten him dragged to the gallows by an angry mob any time before 1920 (and even then only because he absolutely would have funded the Pinkertons).
the majority of america is either so disillusioned with the system or so inherently selfish that they simply don't care at all unless something "political" directly effects them
I don't agree with calling people "selfish" in this sense.
Imagine that you have ZERO connection to anyone other than your blood relatives in any material way. If you were literally dying on the street, anyone who wasn't a direct blood relative would literally step over you while you were dying. Everyone who isn't your literal best friend or your mom is rude or apathetic towards you.
In this circumstance, what material motivation do you have to show solidarity to anyone other than yourself and your first degree blood relatives? Please don't give me an emotional argument, I want a material one. "It's the right thing" or "because humanity" or "because Heaven" isn't going to cut it here.
“Man made of shit doesn’t understand how to use honey to attract flies”
Hey, babe. Wake up. No, seriously, wake up. Its time to hit the streets.
Entitlement is such a drug. There is no known cure.
Flensing seems worth a shot
Even though this reply was removed, I bet I can guess the cure.
Uses gravity to drop sharp object, but i guess even insinuating it too much, didn't use it's name just the time period it was used in...
Can be administered via high speed injection in a convenient capsule shape?
Your guess is as good as mine.
Amazing words from a country whos citizens have absolutely no reason to pay it taxes.
That's true, but not having a personal reason is not the same thing as not being compelled to pay taxes... Tax season is coming up and we are poorly organized at best.
But really, is anybody talking about this I can't believe I haven't heard a peep about a tax strike.
Temu Goebbels is such a whiny bitch.
Everyone of these fuckers saying that should be required to stand in the frontline
Is that Il Douche?
Ghouly Goebbels should shut the fuck up.
PeeWee Himmler
So we can remove this administration and take their assets by force according to his own rules
Please don't stop at "this administration". It's a lot bigger than that, these are just the mooks
Honestly, we need a list of the powers. project 2025 leaders, complicit congress, judges, etc. People need to know Trump is a puppet. Maybe a puppet with his own agenda, but he’s a puppet who is easily manipulated.
You're right.
An easy one is Heritage Foundation (project 25), please look at their membership, it's public information on their website.
Where are a great deal of them from? They don't report this in the mainstream news to my knowledge.
Council on Foreign Relations. Heritage foundation is the "goon" branch off of the CFR tree (CFR actually funds studies and is a think tank, Heritage... does not and is not).
The CFR website also has a public membership. Both sites have a history of past members, take a look at them. You will see many familiar names.
Being the greediest man on Earth, Trump is very easy to manipulate.
The problem this time is that unlike Germany, the US has almost unlimited technology, military force, and the backing of Russia. Fascism usually burns itself out for lack of resources. This time it could take a hundred years.
Now there's a guy who missed his nominative determinism calling, he would have been much better at that job too.
I don't think occupational surnames count for nominative determinism.
He's sharp. He's agile. If you try to beat George, you will only be beating AROUND the Bush
I can't wait to see this guy get the death penalty from the hague.
It's always the most feckless pieces of shit who fetishize power for its own sake.
Oh Shitler
He's full of epinephrine. Constantly in fear.
That's an egg I would enjoy seeing cracked.
A lobotomy would do him a world of good
Hope he gets ALS or locked-in syndrome someday. Some longterm suffering in his future.
Fucking nazis
The Geneva convention would like a word.
You know what? Go for it.
I dare America to try and we've got 3 years left to do it. Lets see how fast the world can turn on us and kick our ass. I want to see it now. Because we're overdue for it.
I don't think the world should be destroyed in the final world war, because you personally tired of doing nothing and being all out of ideas.
Ah shut up, I don't see your ass coming up with any ideas except charge over here and try guilt-tripping me.
Hey, do I need to also spoon feed you in case you're a bit confused what hole in your face food comes into? Lest you will threaten to setup a nuclear annihilation of the world because you tried eating, but potato doesn't fit up your nose and you don't really know what to do.
Okay, but what's your idea
Okay, but what's your idea
Americans regain control of their country from the fascists who are currently running the place?
The rest of the world isn't coming to rescue them from your own self-inflicted wannabe dictatorship.
At least not until we are forced to do it for our own survival.
Okay but I'm Canadian, they are gunning for us, not the other way around, I just don't see a plan here
Okay but I'm Canadian
So am I (if my username didn't give it away).
Yes they are hoping to wear us down and take us over, but our citizens led boycotts are helping to hurt them more than they expected or are willing to admit.
And the "buy Canadian" movement is also helping blunt the damage their tariffs are causing.
As for a plan, the federal government has been strengening ties with the rest of the world ever since Trump first pulled the 51st state bullshit out of his ass. And that continues. For example, Carney led a delegation to meetings with EU partners over the last 72 hours, where they were specifically discussing international security cooperation.
Initially the meetings were planned to discuss helping Ukraine, but they also has a lot of discussion about Trump's latest atrocity in Venezuela and his ongoing and renewed threats against various other countries including Greenland, Mexico , Canada and the long list of others.
Oh, I know, I do my best to not do any business with American stuff. It's really a game of patch to holes as best we can before the game of chicken reaches a boiling point
unhinged rant
That's kind of a requirement for these guys, no?
The badly falling superpower does not have the right to take over any country but they do have the power. When abandoning law, who needs rights?
Goebbels ranting like Goebbels. Sick fucker should shove off to Moscow and he can take Magda too.
Miller is the true vp and is choosing whatever trump focuses on
This imbecile talks like he doesn't seem to realize that he is making himself a huge target should his words ever start a war.
He already moved himself and his family to a military base. He knew he'd be a target and planned for it.
Would be nice if this country had a party whose legislators would vote contrary to this mindset.
Wow, thats bonkers!
Now release the epstein files.
Oh god that's not an onion post
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