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Trump stuns as he floats nuclear option on midterms: 'They should cancel the election'

2d 18h ago by slrpnk.net/u/silence7 in politics from www.rawstory.com

... it’s just going to be, I mean, they’ll find a reason to impeach me.

Bitch, you are the encyclopedia britannica of reasons for a president to be impeached.

I bet you could make a kids book, A thru Z, on all the different reasons he should be impeached.

X is for xenophobia

“F” is for friends who do stuff togeth… oh, wait, no, it says here it’s actually for “Firebombing humanitarian zones.” …

E is for Epstein

I thought F had to do with kids?

Nope, F in this context requires consent, that one goes under “R”

Oh right … my bad.

Could also be 'X-Ray' referring to the various scans he's gotten without releasing any of the results.

C is for corruption

I think 'C for Crypto' is better. He started his own coin and gave exclusive perks to people that bought it. He also legitimized crypto even further to the benefit of Don Jr's company.

The entire book is about his corruption.

Z would be the most challenging letter...

Zionism

Probably even an adults book if you really try.

If "Impeached" was a TV series, he's the Box Set.

If "impeached" were Hummels, he would be chubby pedophile boy.

And he wouldn't be removed, just like both times before. Why does he care?

And convicted and hanged in the National Mall.

And left up there until he falls.

Wow fake news much!? He said he WON'T say "they" should cancel it. Then he repeated himself 5 or 6 times to make sure everyone got it. Even though he thinks "they" should cancel it, it's not something he would say.

Just so we're all on the same page. /s

Thats shockingly close to his actual language. Start at 1775 seconds in

Yep, he plays and twists positions he's clearly promoting by prefacing with "how those crazy reporters would react" and it works. The media gulps it down, every time. Just look how every mainstream outlet is sanewashing this specific event.

It's a self-eating snake now man.

The media is going to keep on keeping it up because Trump means ratings, and ratings mean money.

The media is going to keep on keeping it up because it's all owned by fascist billionaires who are on Trump's side.

It's not just the ratings. They'd get plenty of ratings showing trump being arrested, on trial, going to jail, crying on camera, dying horribly; and same for all his conspirators.
The billionaires are the ones who benifit from trump, and they own the media.

They'd make a lot more fucking money showing those things.

It'd be like the ending of WW2 in this bitch

But they'd only get those ratings the one time if he dies or goes to prison. If he lives and continues to be dictator president they can milk him indefinitely

Well he'll probably die soon regardless (we can only hope). I think he's racked enough criminal charges to keep the show going until he croaks.

This fucking idiot is just rambling about an autopen for a few minutes without a hint of irony that he himself is an autopen because his dementia riddled head doesn't think. He literally said "now I just sign em all because it's crazy". It's like 4 separate layers of irony.

What a fucking world.

Media should start asking this question to everyone in this fucking administration:

"Will the Epstein Files be released before or after the midterms elections are cancelled?"

I was super confused who is they

Probably the Steves (Miller and Bannon)

Fun fact, the word for this is "preterition," which I learned in my Latin class.

they'll find a way to impeach me

THEN STOP BREAKING THE LAW YOU DEMENTED FAT FUCK!

Little late, innit?

I think we're well past impeachment as a punishment.

"They’ll find a reason to impeach me."

Like bc of all the crimes? I used to be about non-violence but it really does seem like the answer in specific cases.

I think there's a quote out there like "violence is never the answer... until it is." Something like that. Violence sucks, but everyone believes in its use. Whether that's cops using it to "maintain order" or "terrorists" using it for political reasons (these are the same thing in my opinion) everyone agrees there are times where it's needed. Every person will have a different limit, but I don't believe there's anyone out there who's rational who actually believes it isn't a tool that needs to be utilized at some point.

Guys, not sure if everyone gets it yet, so for those who need to catch up: There will not be any midterms. At least nothing meaningful, if they're held at all. The right is gaslighting and the left is in denial. The right don't want elections...they can only reduce their power.

David Frum said it best: “If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.”. He's right, and he would know.

They might try, butbim not so sure how well it would go. States control elections, so it would be individual red states (or more correctly, states run by republicans) who would "cancel elections". But those are also the statea full of people who demonstrated they are willing to storm capitals over election shenbanigans (i truly belive most of the jan 6ers really were convinced that the election was stolen bless their hearts).

It's all about forcing a constitutional crisis. The States that do not have an election are going to claim that the mid term election was invalid. Forcing the issue to SCOTUS who will mostly likey say something about one state cancelling an election means the mid terms couldn't happen.

John Roberts will make weak ass excuse about making sure democracy is protected. Clearance Thomas will get a new RV. Samuel Alito can take joy in being a facist prick. Brett Kavanaugh will get a case of beer. Amy Coney Barret will get solace that her christo-fascist state gets to happen. Neil Gorsuch gets to a be smug little fuckward.

Those January 6ers aren't going to do anything, they were upset that the election was "stolen" from their guy. The January 6ers ain't going to do shit just all those ammosexuals talking about how the 2nd amendement is about protecting the country from tyranny. All as it's their own team doing it, all of them will find reasons to support it.

It was the MAGAts that stormed the capital because Trump told them to. If Daddy Trump tells them the elections need to be cancelled these people will be storming blue states that try to have elections.

If only blue states have elections then the Republicans can't lose any seats.

There are red seats in blue states still. They only need a few to gain a majority.

Really though, the election doesn't really matter until congress recognizes them. This is the real end point. They can just choose to not accept the new members. They already tested this recently and there was little pushback. They've proven the theory, at least for a short term and small scale. I don't see any reason they wouldn't try it when it actually matters.

I won’t say cancel the election, they should cancel the election because the fake news will say ‘he wants the elections canceled. He’s a dictator.’ They always call me a dictator

Yes, exactly, because you want to cancel elections you fat Cheeto fuck

You want people to stop calling you a dictator? QUIT

“Stuns?” This bitch was telegraphing this angle since day 1.

Since day like -500 by my count

This and the Greenland really need to be taken seriously. He just kidnapped a world leader and his wife(?).

Can something really be considered "jaw dropping" when anyone with 2 brain cells has assumed he was going to attempt something like this since he literally said on stage over a year ago, you won't ever have to vote again?

At this point, I would say it would be "jaw dropping" for him to just follow the rule of law.

We all know his goal is to destroy the U.S. (as well as any part of the globe they can seize) and the entire system of government on behalf of his handlers and their corporate interests, right? Surely by now, nobody could still believe that maybe this guy is just exceptionally bad at his job...

The entire point is to burn it all to the ground, and from there rebuild it in their own image. Realistically, who knows wtf will actually be rebuilt if anything, because if/when it all does finally come crumbling down, they will turn on each other to determine who will seize power and use their hoarded resources to force us to fight each other in a civil war(s) on their behalf.

Anyway, tldr, sorry to be that person, but this isn't "jaw dropping."

You should already have been impeached you rapist criminal pedophile. You should be in prison waiting for the firing squad.

Maybe he shouldn't have committed so many impeachable offenses. Too late for that.

Anybody even the littlest bit surprised that he would say this sort of thing hasn't been paying attention. Not a stunner at all.

Being shocked by something obvious to everyone else is the American superpower.

It's not a nuclear option because it's not even an option.

Trump owns the agencies, the national guard, the military and supreme court. All these parts of the power structure have been conditioned to do as he says. And we've already seen how he uses them illegally, even openly with ICE.
Trump doesn't give a shit about the law, he will make some insane excuse and call martial law.
Trump has not been seriously resisted yet, how can you claim that Trump or Vance taking power is not an option?

Well for one thing, elections are held by the states.

So when the Red States comply and don't have midterms Republicans don't lose any seats.

That's the even more neat part: their terms don't have an auto-renew.

And criminals aren't allowed on the ballot for presidential elections.

And the president can't just start a war and invade another country without Congressional approval.

They don't give a shit about the rules in place and will continue to ignore them because there continues to be zero consequences for doing so.

Trump will sign an executive order saying they continue to hold their seats until an election can be held (which of course it can't).

The federal government is above the states, if it's federally declared illegal federal police can arrest anyone participating and planning to hold the election anyway. Just like FBI could arrest people for Cannabis even when a state had legalized it.

So he's going to arrest 60,000,000-170,000,000 Americans in one day?

Nah.

He can either arrest his opponent or the administration can just ignore the results of whatever fractured election takes place.

He can ignore the results or arrest anyone but that just makes him a guy occupying the white house who is no longer the president. They could try their hand at a civil war (if the guns stay in line) but there's no mechanic available to modify the constitution and give them legitimacy. At best they could depose state governments and put in their own people. But anybody with an army can claim the USA by that method.

I didn't know Congress needed the president's permission to exist

He wouldn't need to. The ensuing chaos would be enough to declare martial law

Trump owns the agencies, the national guard, the military and supreme court.

Which is why the SC ruled in his favor and there are currently Marines and National Guard enforcing state laws in LA and Chicago.

Wasn’t he just ruled against and had to remove them all?

Yes, except in DC and places where it was nominally deployed by the governor

https://apnews.com/article/trump-national-guard-withdrawal-cities-6b7b02b832b24e17e6db483eb6c74425

ding ding ding, there are no troops in those cities!

I will burn shit. No taxation without representation. Taking away my representation (no matter how much of a shitty sycophant my representative is) is the same as taking way my duties as a citizen to follow the law. If I still have to go to work, then the fucking country is running well enough to have an election.

Fuck yeah, this is the energy i want my politicians to have. You should run for something, i'd vote for you.

I want to get off Mr. Trump's wild ride

God I hope he dies soon.

Bad phrasing. I assumed he was going to nuke someone.

Same, and it legitimately scares me that I was not as ‘stunned’ at this prospect as the article thinks I would be..

There's still time

It's almost like he wants to be Kirked.

They all want it more than anything. He'll be a martyr, this will give them a justification to tighten the grip on power and finally complete the authoritarian transformation of the country.

It won't work. First of all, most of America despises him, which means he'll never be a martyr to them.

All that's left are the most Sociopathic MAGAs, and they don't care enough about anyone else to keep a torch burning for them. Even Charlie Kirk didn't supply the Horst Weasel moment they were hoping for. He is already fading from memory, and influence. Much of that was driven by his widow's own obvious naked, clawing ambition to fulfill her own psychopathic agenda using his name.

MAGAs don't do martyrs well.

most of America despises him

Well, voting patterns don't reflect that, which is a stark indicator that the guy is popular enough to be relevant for a cult.
Mr. Smallface Whateverthefuck was only known for having a face too small for his stupid head, and being owned by any college student that was allowed to talk for more than 15 seconds. Not the most martyr material, no matter how much JD's sidepiece tried to milk it.
Orange turd will be a different story I presume, he has some kind of magical grip on all those idiots, and there is a lot of all those idiots.

Stuns?

Stuns whom, exactly?

Van we stop with the bullshit clickbait headers already?

Trump surprises as he floats nuclear option

Would have been a much better, more normal, headline

I could then say: surprise?

Surprise who, exactly?

Nobody is surprised by this, less so stunned. This is expected.

Someone needs a war to cancel elections. Central america posturing makes sense.

We don’t cancel elections in the US. Even for war. A full-scale invasion of the mainland might be enough to try it, but some piddling foreign “special military operation” isn’t going to cut it.

Yes but that's based on precedent. The current administration gives zero fucks about precedent or logic or anything else. Any convenient excuse will work for them.

Its also based on who runs the elections: the states. The federal executive branch doesn't hold power over them.

You mean "we haven't yet"

While I agree this is just step one. They are showing that law and precedent mean nothing if no one will do anything, and they will continue until that changes.

You're counting on historical precedent to prevent bad actions from this regime? 🤔

How has the world not figured out how this fucker operates. This is a clear and definite signal that he will At least try. He’ll get away with it because this is how he operates, he jokes to test the water, next up he’ll start making them a little more forceful, but then it will become how they need to cancel the elections, eventually he’ll pull the trigger and blame something else in an overnight shock.

It’s coming, has been written in stone, now he’s pouring blood into the incantation.

We've KNOWN for a while, and have opposed it but the apathetic voted him back in. They're so coy about what they're doing like we didn't see it a million miles away.

Oh it’s an option? Ok.

Hard No.

Get Bent!

Dictator Cheeto Chimp... has a nice ring to it, right?

Fuck no!

He needs to die, one way or another.

"They" should cancel this fat pedophile.

It's already rigged fuck this moron

It's nearly impossible to rig Congressional elections. There are over 400, and they are in little districts all over America. The best way to do it is to gerrymander as hard as possible, which is what they were doing when Trump was trying to get all the states to redraw their district maps.

But that backfired when California passed a law allowing them to redraw their districts, adding several Democratic seats, while most of the MAGA plans got shot down in court.

He can't allow the House to flip Democrat, and it's already super close, within a couple of seats. It won't take much to flip. In fact, so many MAGAs are retiring, dying, and getting sick, that some are predicting that the House may flip BEFORE the election takes place.

If the House flips, the Dems will take control of investigative committees with full subpoena and arrest powers. They may not be able to get the DoJ to go after MAGA corruption, but they can just do the job themselves.

And while we are rightfully disgusted at how feckless Dems have been in the past, they did put Bannon and Ron Varo in jail for defying Congressional subpoenas. They were very short sentences, but nobody wants to spend a single day in prison. IF they get the House back, they are likely to be far more aggressive this time, especially without a sitting President to protect, and a highly righteously indignant voter base.

If the House flips, then the Dems get two years to demonstrate their new willingness to fight MAGA to the death, and hopefully turn out in enormous numbers in the 2028 Presidential election. It's the best shot we have to get this country back, and crush MAGA, once and for all.

If they can take both chambers, they can literally END Trump's legislative agenda, and pass laws to restrict much of his corruption. MAGAs are already starting to vote against him - enough crossed over to restrict his ability to use the military in Venezuela, and it really pissed him off. Even MAGA is seeing the writing on the wall, and starting to soften a bit, hoping to not die in front of a firing squad.

And Trump knows all that. He can't allow the Dems to gain even a single chamber of Congress, or he and his henchmen are screwed, and the consequences are going to be life in prison. He can't successfully rig the election, and it's already shaping up to be a historical bloodbath, so his only option left is to just cancel elections for the first time in American history. He HAS to do it, his freedom, and life, and his fortune, depend on it.

So this isn't a joke, or trolling, or anything but desperate necessity speaking. He's definitely going to try it, but suspending elections is a BRIGHT RED LINE, that must not be crossed under ANY circumstances. Without elections, the Constitutional/ Social contract has been broken, America no longer exists, and we are in a Civil War.

Besides, elections are a state-managed process. What if "suspends"elections, and the Red states honor his demand, but the Blue state go ahead and have their elections anyway? What's going to happen when all those freshly minted Democratic Congressional Reps show up in DC to take their seats, some of which may be occupied by MAGAs? We've already seen Mike Johnson keep a Dem out of her legal office for months, just because her single vote was the deciding vote to release the Epstein Files. What are the chances that Johnson just allows this new crop to be sworn in, and his Speakership removed? Especially when Trump demanded it.

Buckle up, this is going to be a wild year.

Or we could just throw Shitler and the rest of the Turd Reich into Lake Michigan

The lake ain't big enough for all of em

I’m pretty sure we can make it work

I'm going to need a huge ass plunger for that

I’ll bet you $1 we can fit them all

Huge-ass plunger, or huge ass-plunger? #xkcd

Do it. Remove all doubt what you're about.

Who are you going to nuke? San Francisco? Chicago?

Yes

Taking away your right to vote.

2A people are dead silent.

they’ll find a way to impeach me

Go fuck yourself you unflushable turd.

“Stuns”=says crimes he intends to commit without consequences out loud

Just cancel trump and the rest will work itself out

Hum! I miss the quote where he talk nuclear option. I’ve read the hyperlink and didn’t find it but I was doing other things

They were using nuclear option as a metaphor.

Ha! Got it

He want to nuke a hurricane. I'd err on the side caution that he really means nuclear option.

Here, I found it:

“Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible.”

It’s so clear now /s

Thanks for the quote

FTA:

"He then casually suggested the nuclear option.

“I won’t say cancel the election, they should cancel the election because the fake news will say ‘he wants the elections canceled. He’s a dictator.’ They always call me a dictator,” a grinning Trump said."