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Don't just say "White House Official." It was Stephen Miller. You know, the most racist and probably most dangerous person that is under Trump.

Stephen Miller

Also the person who doesn't have Secret Service protection like Trump does, which I mention for no reason in particular.

Well, after protesters wrote mean notes in chalk on the sidewalk in front of his house earlier in ‘25, he did freak out and move his entire family into a military base. So, there’s that to contend with.

Queer teens regularly get yelled at by bigot mobs and brush it off; Stephen Miller sees two insults and a statistic written in front of his house, and immediately jumps ship. So much for the "Tough Guy" shtick.

Him moving to a military base actually made me a lot more worried about their future plans than most of the rest of their policies have.

It looks a lot like something someone who wants to start a civil war would do.

Trump said the second amendment people would take care of things. Member that?

Of course stochastic terrorists, mafias, and corrupt or unethical armed services members aren’t really on my holiday card list either.

I think the best we might get is Elmo Musk driving over his toes after a spat over Ms Miller’s lovechild. Which, and let us be clear - we would accept.

Truth in advertising: they renamed the Department from Defense to "Department of War".

Hey, Americans, this is what happens when you stay silent.

Go burn down the city hall or something. Stop posting. Start doing.

But at least they saved Palestine. They did save Palestine, didn't they...?

Yeah, right?? Kamala would have been soooo much worse!! /s, obviously.

And her unrealized gains tax over a Million would have destroyed the US Economy! We did save the economy, right? /s

Just because Trump is crazy that doesn’t make genocide support by not Trump okay suddenly. Get over it

There's no hope for Americans and their black and white narrow minds.

There’s no hope for Americans

But neither is there for Europeans. We knew that the chemical weapons in Iraq were fake and we knew that there was no UN mandate for Syria and the one for Libya was stretched. We have known about Venezuela since the aircraft carrier was sent at the end of October. Now Greenland is closer to home, and we know about the social networks and the groomed politicians. What are we going to do to make a difference?

We would have to do exactly what everyone fears doing.

Make a better species while we are still around, one that has a tendency to disobey unjust commands.

That's nurture not nature. We would need a different culture.

O started swimming there but I wasn't even halfway there when they had bombed the country, so I swam back.

What do you mean?

Unfortunately "whatabout" is the only retort that many know.

Said by someone that's not in their position. It's like, "those shitty slaves in North Korea are not doing enough." Yeah, we can't outfight the military people.

That's literally what has happened in like every regime before change. Standing up to the power in place.

I'm happy I don't have to do that, but you must if you want change.

You can also start small with a national strike.

we can’t outfight the military people

I thought that was the whole idea with having guns, so you wouldn't get oppressed by the government. So, now there is no reason for everyone to have guns?

So, your projection is that Harris would have done the same as the Trump admin? Like a "Harris Tower Hotel" in Gaza City, with the involvement of Harris's family members in the deal?

Kamala's Israel policy is just a less white trash version of Trump's.

Even the Biden administration was putting pressure on Israel to stop. They should have forced them, but they didn't. There was at least a disapproval of their actions.

Trump basically gave them the green light and said do it faster please.

Neither good, but one approach was better

Harris would not have stopped the genocide. There’s no genocide light. It’s either you’re complicit in genocide or not. Trump is objectively a horrible person and I would have never voted for him but that doesn’t make Harris not a genocide supporter.

I thought we were past this blue MAGA bullshit.

So... just to confirm:

At best, Harris would have been no better for the people of Palestine than trump. And trump is demonstrably worse for basically the entire rest of the world (pretty sure Harris wouldn't be threatening war on Denmark/the EU, for example).

So... your lack of a vote (which is effectively a vote for trump when you math it out) did absolutely nothing for the people you claim to care about while actively hurting everyone else.

Good job owning the libs, I guess?

People have different values, and they approach voting differently. You vote based on utilitarian ethics, but there are other moral philosophies. And ultimately utilitarianism is a deeply flawed ethical system.

Learn to be a good citizen in a pluralistic democracy. Your way is not the only way. Learn some humility.

People have different values

I'm worried by people whose values say that when presented with the trolley problem the correct thing to do is to criticise the system in which people get tied to the tracks instead of just pulling the lever and then dealing with the system.

Yes, you can make any problem seem childishly simple with the trolley problem.

This is actually a whole series of trolley intersections arranged one after another. And every time you pull the lever to run over people, extra people get added to the intersections down the line. You skip killing five people now, but the next intersection has branches with 5 and 10 people on it.

You need to consider both short term and long term in your voting. It's very easy to get myopically focused on just one election. To think that this election is all that matters, the fate of the whole world to be decided in one moment.

This idea is a fantasy and not how the real world works. Parties move slowly over many elections. Change and legislation happens over many elections. Even Trump's power grabs are just a continuation of the ruthless expansion of executive power that has happened with both parties in charge.

If you hold your nose and vote for the Democrat every time, no matter how evil, you have now removed yourself entirely from the political process. If you're not afraid to actually withhold your vote, the Democrat will inevitably respond by moving to the right. Think about what actual incentives Democrats have. And think about how your actions affect those incentives.

We are in the situation we are now in part because Democrats have been blindly "voting blue no matter who" for election after election. As left voters will blindly vote for the Democrat no matter what they do, Democratic candidates suffer no political consequences from moving to the right.

Don't ignore the consequences of your actions. If you're not willing to punish leaders at the ballot box, you are giving them absolutely zero incentive to actually try and address what you care about. They'll happily take your guaranteed locked-in vote. They'll happily take your donations. And then they'll laugh to themselves, "can you believe this moron?" as they ignore everything you care about and pander to Republicans. After all, why shouldn't they? You've castrated yourself politically. Your thoughts and beliefs don't matter, as you've made yourself irrelevant.

My solution: Blow up the trolley, because if you are a problem, fuck you.

Have you heard of a primary? Cause it basically invalidates everything you just said.

Also, the more the left refuses to vote Democrat, the more Democrats pander to the right. They're trying to win the "moderate/centrist" vote because apparently they won't get the leftist vote no matter what they do. They'll never pass the purity test.

People with your logic are the ones shooting themselves in the foot at every election. Your logic got trump elected, and no amount of armchair philosophizing will be enough to squirm around that fact.

Hopefully the 80 freshly killed Venezuelans would be convinced by this reasoning.

I have family in places where we had the pleasure of dealing with both Bushs, Obama, Trump and Biden, and frankly, they are all the same to me. I’ve never been to America but America came to us. Don’t use victims of American imperialism as a token to make a point.

It didn’t help me or my family & friends at all that it wasn’t Trump doing it before and I am horrified of what happened in Venezuela, but every American president at least since I’m alive is a war criminal but actually probably almost every American president ever has been a war criminal.

I‘m not American so I can’t vote for either of them, nor have I ever been to the US. But I have family in places where we had the pleasure of dealing with Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden, and frankly, neither of them has done us any good to say it very mildly.

Ah. So you are just encouraging people who CAN vote to... hurt you and everyone else.

Heads up: If your homeboy offers you something to drink, avoid it. Probably full of novichok.

Honestly dude until you have ever had to flee a warzone with killing squads going around, torture prisons, and children hospitals being bombed you’ll never understand.

I don’t care if your war criminal is blue or red or from Russia or USA, feel good about yourself for supporting not Trump but you have no idea how little it matters who’s running the torture prison you lock up my uncle in or throwing the bomb that killed my best friend‘s aunt or who destroyed my house.

And your answer is to... create more warzones? Because that is what trump is literally doing right now.

Politically, I am a progressive/leftist with strong socialist leanings. Because of my family history I... have very strong issues with communism both from the perspective of how it was implemented and corrupted as well as the fundamental flaws that lead to corruption.

Guess what? I don't advocate for more communist->fascist regimes around the world so that others can experience the hurt too.

I don’t care about your political leanings. Stop doing war crimes in my country and in all other countries so I can go back lol. I don’t care who commits them or commits less of them or says nicer things while committing them, just fucking stop and stop pretending that you’re a better person for prioritizing your domestic issues and then calling me a Russian bot when I tell you that I don’t care who destroys my country. Bye

when I tell you that I don’t care who destroys my country. Bye

Well.. congrats? trump's got you covered. So... keep advocating for him, I guess?

get over it

What exactly?

Who was supposed to save Palestinians? Genocide Kamala or Genocide Trump?

No American was going to save the Palestinians. They have the wrong skin colour and religion to be considered human by American standards.

They won't. At least, not in significant enough numbers to matter. It's easy to type that, but quite another thing if it's your life and livelihood on the line.

Historically, revolutions don't happen without someone pretty organised and powerful to arrange them, like the Jacobins. And even then they usually fail.

I mean, people set the capitol on fire 6 years ago today and nothing happened but some temporary charges and subsequent pardons.

Yeah and that "nothing happened" was because the fucking President organized it and pardoned everyone. Once again, the already powerful tend to prop up revolutions. None of the powerful here will benefit from us having a revolution unless it didnt actually change anything. No one is coming to end this. Americans better band together and figure out what they can do with some string and a pack of matches.

It was on behalf of the President and his party, and it was never anywhere close to seriously threatening government power. A few individual politicians, maybe.

I guess, what's your point?

5 years ago, and that’s because those seditionists were on the side of the seditionist government

Jan 6 was a violent insurrection, but nobody set the capitol on fire.

Go burn down the city hall or something.

Yeah, smart. Burn down a city hall to stop the federal government. Makes total sense.

Nothing will ever make sense to fascism enablers.

You do you. Just keep that blaming game on point. That's all you've ever known.

It just seems like you have no idea how the US government functions so maybe take a step back. The country is larger than your entire continent, burning down any city hall would barely even make news in DC

And if it did it would just get the national guard deployed in your city. And the city government wouldn't be able to do anything to help, because their office burnt down...

My City hall turned Blue in November 2025, coming for the House Rep next. Burn the red ones, every single Republican in federal voted to hide the Epstein Files at least once.

Best of luck everyone. We had a good run. Prepare or the Forever War.

Yeah, it really was an exceptional time between 1945 and 2020.

For western Europe, the rest of the world begs to differ.

The rest of the world also did relatively great as well, especially towards the end of that time frame after colonialism and then the Cold War. You see lots of footage from Vietnam and Afghanistan, but only because "everything fine in Namibia" isn't a headline.

How are we defining rest of the world here because China, India and Africa make up nearly 50% of the human population and things were really not great, especially for the first 40 to 50 years after WW2.

Namibia would be an Africa example, although the decolonisation period was probably as rocky as anywhere. India did alright after the same.

China had Mao problems, of course, but then Deng on and the rapid ascent to global power is also in the period considered.

People really think this is the first time this is happening and how it wasn’t way way worse just some decades ago

we’ve been in it since ww1. every “downtime” space between subsequent had simply been “cold war” and capitalism prepping for the next phase.

WWII defies that description pretty directly.

does it? the reason it popped off was because some folks were pissed ww1 failed.

That was a definite contributing factor, but obviously there was more to Nazism than that, or Neville Chamberlain would have been right. And Italy didn't lose WWI or even stay on the same side through it. Edit: And Japan wasn't there.

One side combined Communists and the traditional colonial empires Marx wrote about. The other was upstart Fascists blending capitalism with a kind of feudal logic.

Gee, I thought we lived in a world governed by laws because we realized the whole "might makes right" thing ends up being an unmitigated disaster at the end of the day.

And then China/BRICS use their financial might to kill the dollar as reserve currency and they'll all cry that it's against the rules.

Might makes right is the very foundation of rightism.

Might doesn't make right morally, but I suppose it can politically.

It cannot... that makes no sense... that's like saying me knocking you out makes me the better chess player

yes but at the same time, people like Miller helped me realize that public executions made perfect sense

You'd think they'd know how surprising nations can unite when risks are in the air. Notable examples:

  • Nazi Germany allied with Soviet Union 1939-1941
  • Allied forces allied with Soviet Union 1941-1945

If USA annexes Greenland, EU allying with China stops being an absurd idea.

Disturbingly already ceased being too absurd to consider.

Germany and the Soviet Union were never allied.

Not only were they allied, historical notes suggest that Stalin was obviously deeply hurt by the eventual backstab from Hitler. He thought they were best buds.

He thought they were two genocidal peas in a pod. Who would have thought that you can't trust an unhinged maniac? Put two of them together, and no wonder it didn't work out well.

in which war did germany and the Soviet Union act as allies? who cares about Stalin's feelings?

In World War 2 before 22 June 1941, when Nazi Germany launched Operation Barbarossa.

Perhaps most notably in the annexation of Poland, and in a more distant way in Finland, Latvia, Estonia, Bessarabia, Lithuania.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

i'm well aware. the whole purpose was to defer the war between the two. where's the alliance in it?

i’m well aware.

Clearly, not.

where’s the alliance in it?

Their shared objective in 1939 was to carve up and annex Europe between them. That one party to the alliance unilaterally terminated the alliance does not mean that the alliance never existed.

Because we live in a world governed by strength, by power.

Oh ok then so why did they get so buttered about 9/11? It was only another group of people exercising their power and their strength.

Not saying that terrorists should be accepted but simply that the provided justification makes no goddamn sense. But then again it is a White House official statement so why would it.

The problem with sense is that it is not an a priori natural constant, but created on the fly. Stephen Miller's justification for taking Greenland is more an acknowledgment and announcement that they left the set of values that the countries of hate world (officially) agreed upon with the founding of the UN. It does make sense in the context of his set of values, and I hope he'll end up experiencing the consequences of his believes when the roles are reversed. Without the world having to go to war to reign the US in.

They will most likely apply the actual military AI they have, that's when AM will utterly fuck us all, and not in a good way.

I'm not sure how much military AI figures into this. Arctic conditions are famously unforgiving of electronics.

Batteries tend to die, and components tend to freeze. The US military hasn't really built their infrastructure to deal with extremely cold weather, they were confident that the next major conflict would occur in a nice warm desert in the middle East or maybe China at a stretch.

"Buttered"? What's that mean?

"9/11"? That false flag operation to trigger the excusing of the PNAC plan to invade 7 countries in 5 years keeping the people terrorised into an unquestioning totalitarian group think as the first phase of weapons of mass distraction to consolidate power even further? That 9/11?

"another group"?! Same group.

Russia thought the same about their military, before finding out that even Ukraine could fight their military

Hey, rest of the world: When you bomb the shit outta us, can you leave my apartment alone? I'm not with the government.

Screw that, vaporize me I don't care. It's the only way I'm getting out of work the next day.

Personally I would prefer if they just nuked the office.

Nuclear weapons dont have that sort of precision. If you attack the US, better kill it dead.

The Viet Cong managed to do it. As did the Taliban. The Ukrainians are doing it to the Russians as we speak. There are plenty of asymmetrical tactics that would stop the US in their tracks. Hell, a few weeks ago, the DOD released a video about how the US military managed to drop a grenade from a drone. There are significant weaknesses in all that American might.

The US military is unrivaled in its ability to effectively defeat an enemy military. It's proven pretty shitty at dealing with insurgencies and guerilla tactics.

Fighting against the US military with a tank or jet is a losing proposition. But randos with small arms and improvised explosives have performed pretty well.

And yet the USA continually loses wargames: https://breakingdefense.com/2019/03/us-gets-its-ass-handed-to-it-in-wargames-heres-a-24-billion-fix/

Don't believe anything they say. It's all propaganda and psyop.

The US military is unrivaled in its ability to effectively defeat an enemy military.

Except in Vietnam. And Iraq. And Afghanistan.

Vietnam was a long time ago, Afghanistan didn't really have a traditional military, and the Iraq military was absolutely curb-stomped by the Americans.

"hurr durr I said 'military' so insurgency doesn't count!"

I made a comment that's entire point is that the US is bad at occupations because it can't deal with insurgencies. You countered with examples of it being defeated by insurgencies. I pointed out that those examples were insurgencies, and now you're acting like it's some kind of sudden twist in my argument that I think they're bad against insurgencies.

I don't understand what you're trying to argue. Are you just not capable of agreeing with someone without being a dick about it?

Guerilla Warfare and Terrorism have been extremely useful tactics against large forces. The main reason America exists at all is because of Guerilla Warfare by American Militias against the mighty British Army, the most powerful military on the planet at the time.

Funny enough you can nuke oilfields and still get oil.

Only if the oil fields haven't yet been tapped. If it's deep underground then there's very little that can affect them.

Nah, we can nuke the entire surface clean and not disturb much under the soil. You realize they can easily detonate in air, right? Like, we have bunker busters sure but thats not the only way a bomb can explode.

I'll even add we have completely radiation free nukes at this point. Clean the surface and then move in weeks later. Guess they are nnot nukes but some other classification but nonetheless no rads and magnituds larger than Hiroshima.

You're thinking of fusion bombs. They're absolutely not zero radiation they just don't release as much as you would expect given these size of the explosion. But they absolutely do release radiation.

Much of the destruction from fusion bombs comes from the implosion rather than the explosion. Not that the initial explosion isn't highly also destructive. In an airbus situation it basically picks things off the ground and flings them into the air that several times the speed of sound. Any oil rig that is already in place is going to get violently ripped out of the ground along with a lot of the underground piping. At the very least that is going to cause a massive leak and probably catch fire. The last time a gas fire like that happened the Russians actually had to use a nuke to put it out.

Right. Thats what i said.

Hey, Germany, France, you've both had the bright idea of "we have the strongest military in the world, let's fight everybody at the same time", mind telling us how that went for you?

Fr though, I'm struck by how fucking stupid this guy routinely is. Like, history is filled with people making this same stupid decision over and over. If it could work well, surely it would have at some point by now.

Very different situation for America. France and Germany had to contend with neighboring armies. At the moment, Europe isn't going to cross the Pond and start shit if we take Greenland. Europe is barely standing up to the Russian monster in their backyard, they're hardly going to defend our backyard.

All this talk is to soften the blow when we do the deed. Global warming makes Greenland prime real estate. As it warms, prospecting and mining become easier, and it will soon guard year-round Artic sea lanes. With enough warming it may become attractive for farming and living space.

The US is taking Greenland as soon as they feel the situation in Venezuela is under control. Said situation will never truly be under control, but they seem to have ignored their history lessons.

Ukraine is not part of the EU or NATO, Greenland is. If Greenland gets invaded all of NATO members would be on war against the invader, leaving Russia to take any other countries they want to. And while America is stronger than any single member, it would have trouble fighting all of them, especially because if that war erupts lots of people in the US will be against it, so you would have to fight your own population.

That being said, I don't think US will invade Greenland, I think all of that is grandstanding and trying to move the attention away from Venezuela, Palestine and Ukraine.

Said earlier that the US would watch NATO mass forces in real time. Surprise attacks by nation states are long past. What does the US do in that case?

That's the scary part. If the rest of NATO responds, America will see it coming and justify a first strike. (Not nuclear though.)

You have a point on fighting our own population. But there was strong anti-war sentiment before Pearl Harbor. If NATO comes together, well, just imagine the propaganda machine the administration will deploy. Everyone has already seen how susceptible we are to bullshit.

And no, I do not share your optimism. Said in other comments, the lesson of Hitler failing to storm the Caucuses oil fields before opening the Western front was the beginning of his end. As soon as they think the situation in Venezuela is under control, for these monster's value of "under control", the US will waltz into Greenland utterly unopposed, with enough oil to take all comers.

This isn't some new distraction they dreamed up. Global warming is turning Greenland into prime real estate for mining, guarding newly opening Artic shipping lanes and with enough heat, lebensraum. Taking Greenland is a no-brainer from a purely strategic POV.

Also, the fascists need to move fast while NATO/Europe is still dependent on American weapons, trade and tech. If they fuck around for even a few years, the EU will have become far more independent. (Go faster Europe!)

Gods. Just realized that if shit truly goes down, the US will build an Iron Curtain across the Atlantic. We can pull tech, shut down shipping, utterly disrupt the continent. Imagine how Putin is gloating.

the US will build an Iron Curtain across the Atlantic.

My goodness, you are so right!

The problem is this iron curtain will keep expanding and keep invading.

After Greenland, the next one on the menu probably will be the Azores, where America has a military base.

This is imperialism at its peak and Putin is so overjoyed with all this mess.

It's very unlikely that other NATO members would take military action against a US campaign on Greenland. They would almost certainly sit there and watch and then try to approach the conflict diplomatically. Many of these countries have US military bases on their own soil.

if that war erupts lots of people in the US will be against it, so you would have to fight your own population.

Wishful thinking

A lot of people would be convinced to be against it by the same people who supported Trump: his billionaire friends. Do you really think that if this joke of a president start a war against EU (and, as sidenote, against NATO) services from Meta, MS and all the other American tech companies would continue as is ? Who do you think will be hit in the pocket ?

I don't see that happening. They're willing to sacrifice their direct business interests to usher in a neo-feudalist society. Look at Musk espousing the Trump government when the latter is openly anti-environmentalist while Musk sells EVs.

Yes, they are willing to do it but probably only up to a point, I don't see them to accept so easily to lose their biggest market basically overnight.

And once lost, I don't really think they can get back

Ukraine is not part of the EU or NATO, Greenland is.

Greenland isn't in the EU.

They are an oversea territory of Denmark, whose citizens are all danish and members of the EU. While technically not part of the EU it's all but a technicality, by those same standards Alaska should not be a part of the USA. Even in the worst possible interpretation of this it's like a country invading Puerto Rico.

No, Greenland isn't part of the EU because of a "technicality", they voted to leave decades ago.

And whilst not technically being a member of the EU they will gladly take their funding, thank you very much!

Geez, guys! Reading the comments makes me cringe.

We are already in deep, complete madness (both us Europeans and Americans), there’s no need for more division and arguing.

I understand that not all of Americans can take a gun and go out and start offing officials that are ruining everything, but there are alternatives that everyone can do and legally, or at least without ruining their lives.

Big corporations and tech bro’s are all over Trump and praising him. And their goal is one: money, and how to get richer.

So, start voting with your own wallet and strike them where it hurts. Run them dry!

Have a Tesla or any products from Musk? Just sell the damn thing or get rid of it.

Use US cloud infrastructure? Get rid of it and look for alternatives.

Buy products that are made outside the US.

Have Facebook or social media? Delete your accounts or search for alternatives.

Using Google or Bing? Use alternative search engines.

Using gmail? Drop it and use other provider.

Using Netflix, Disney+ or any other streaming service? Just cancel the subscriptions.

Have an iPhone, iPad or any other Apple product? Get rid of it.

Are you an US soldier? Do you really need to contribute to an invasion of an ally that didn’t make any threats or hurt you in any way, ordered by someone who doesn’t give a damn about you or your family?

There are plenty of examples and initiatives that you can do.

I know for many of you it’s easier said than done. Does this solves the big problem that is Trump? Probably not.

Does this solves the lunatics that are running the White House? Unlikely.

But if everyone, both Americans and Europeans do their part by doing some of these things, this can make a ripple effect that definitely will make a dent in these big corporations.

I started doing all of that when Trump was elected. I switched from Windows to Linux Mint, got rid of Office 365, no longer buying stuff from the US whenever possible. Using Adblockers when I use Youtube and so on.

It is not hard, you can take one step after the other and slowly get away from all the American stuff.

Exactly. These are steps that we can take to strike the US corporations. And we can do so legally.

I use Linux on my machines. And even though I use MacOS for my MacBook Air and Mini, I’m figuring out if I should replace it with Linux as well.

But I got rid of Windows, office 365 and gmail. I use Proton with custom domain.

Cloud back up? I own my private backup in an European VPS.

Also have my own Nextcloud set up in European VPS.

Search engine? I use Qwant.

Mobile browser? I use Vivaldi.

Still use an iPhone but also bought a 2nd hand phone and flashed Sailfish OS in it.

Yes, I do pay for some of these things but at least I’m not being tracked and I know I’m doing my part against these evil US Companies.

I'm sorry I have only one upvote for you. I wish I could give you way more. You're right about this overall!

I will mention though if you already own a device you paid for and it's not making Apple any money you might as well keep it and use it until the end of its usable life.

Aw thanks!

It seems what it’s logical to me. I’m seeing a constant battle between Americans and Europeans that does not help any of us in both sides of the pond.

I totally agree with you about the devices. I’m still an Apple user and it’s not easy for me right now to get rid of my Apple devices.

But I do have a backup phone. Just because Apple is one of the Companies supporting Trump and as an European, I know US Companies have kill switches on their tech.

What if Trump says to start revoking accesses in Europe? Then my devices are just paper weight.

I have an iPhone Air, but also have a phone flashed with Sailfish OS.

Have both M1 Mac mini and Air. But will install Asahi Linux instead of using MacOS.

But it’s the voting with the wallet that matters. Even if you can’t get rid of everything American. If you only can cancel 1 subscription, it’s worth it.

In the end of the day, you are the ultimate person with the last word and decide (or not) to what to do in this matter.

My goal is to not influence in any way. It’s just a simple suggestion.

Your suggestions are fine, if ineffective and unambitious as an attempt to disrupt a determined actor intent on unleashing global mayhem. The window for not ”offing officials”, or at the very least some form of non-violent civil unrest, before things turn calamitous is getting smaller by the day.

Hitting them in the Money always hurts them, because it's literally all they care about. Deny them one penny, and they go psychotic.

America is a big place, and boycotts make them listen. Many CEOs have lost their jobs after a poor business decision backfired, caused a boycott, and the stock dropped. They truly fear that, because once the narrative takes on a life of its own, there is no stopping it, and something can go viral within hours, taking a company by surprise.

Boycotts work, but the problem is that with so much consolidation, there are fewer and fewer companies to boycott. You can't boycott everyone, or there would be nothing to buy or eat.

Oh thank god! Consumers will stop it!

Stephen Miller is 100% a fascist

That's the best thing you could say about him, and he'd probably feel complimented.

He probably giggles when someone calls him a Nazi.

Stephen Miller always looks like a guy who is about to shoot up a crowd because he’s still mad about high school.

Not his physical traits, just how he holds himself together, his body language says, “I have a gun and see my father in the face of everyone I look at.”

Remember when incels were walking through NYC and assaulting random women? Yeah that's the kind of attitude I get from Stephen Miller's vibes.

U.S. is now a bully.

I hate bullies.

I cheer when bullies get whats coming to them.

Hope i can get out before the bombing begins.

Problem with "what coming to them " is they do alot of shit and destroy alot of lives well before "what's coming" ever rolls around.

I have a crazy suggestion: maybe Europeans countries should stop buying US weapons?

I'm not kidding we (Denmark) just ordered more f35s and are in the process of buying a couple of US electronic surveillance aircraft and patriot systems... Our intelligence services use Palantir for all our personal info btw

Our politicians are still thinking that we can appease the US by funding the US military industrial complex.

You are not kidding, looking at the latest press releases from the U.S. Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA), Denmark has been ramping up its arms purchases from the U.S.

Just in December 2025, they submitted four separate requests, totaling $6.5 billion.

Edit: Source

To stop buying US weapons could be seen as aggressive and an escalation. It is better to buy even more US weapons so they lose more if trade between US and EU is interrupted. /s if it is not obvious

That's crazy talk! Instead, Denmark will send a formal letter and order a few more billions $ worth of equipment exclusively to US makers. That should teach them!

Nobody excepting the Vietnamese and afghani, it seems.

Senator Bernie Sanders, independent of Vermont, denounced Mr. Miller’s remarks soon afterward, saying on CNN that “Mr. Miller gave a very good definition of imperialism.”

that'll get him

What would you do?

If you were Bernie? Go in and blow millers brain out? Thats one way to rally support for the republicans.

Or something else? Easy to sit here and make useless comments online.

And how do you have that power? Because the rest of the world gives you money.

How about we stop?

Something's rotten in the States.

As a Dane, I have the rest of my life to enjoy seeing the consequences of America treating politics like a meme board on 4chan for ten years.

I hope it was worth it, Yankees ❤️

We may or may not lose Greenland, but at least we won't have to carry the pride of being the traitor nation that threatened and potentially invaded an ally in the 21st century 😘

It was the Confederates more than the Yankees that voted this shitshow into existence.

It's all the same to me.

Sorry. I'm being too mean. I'm just really pissed off that my country might be invaded by a supposed ally that we sacrificed literal blood and dignity for for decades. 🫠

For what it's worth, which isn't a lot, I'm livid at what my fucked up country has become.

I was unbelievably furious yesterday, and in some ways I still am, but I just want you to know that I have no ill will or hatred toward all the people of America who never wanted any of this and are essentially stuck in a hostage situation in their own country.

For all of you guys' sake I do hope that America does eventually land on its feet, but I also hope that it will never recover to what it once was because America needs a serious wake up call and must start treating other nations and peoples with some respect instead of acting like they own everything and that all of us must bow to their will and sensibilities.

I would like to see, in my lifetime, Americans be prioritized by their government. Some kind of welfare system in place so that Healthcare and education is a right and not a privilege that can bankrupt a normal everyday American. The wealth distribution is comically unfair and I have called America a social third world country for decades. I would like to see a shift in priorities and a geopolitical humbling.

The latter is what I was referring to in my initial, very pissed off comment. And I mean it. I will look forward to seeing this country deal with the consequences of having trump in office. Allyship will not go back to normal where America calls all the shots. Hopefully your future leaders will put laws in place that will prevent something like this from happening again and they will take human rights and freedom more seriously moving forward. No more ICE raids. Fucking ridiculous.

All these changes, I believe will happen, some super slowly and over many many years so we won't immediately feel the changes, but if America wants to remain a country with good values, this must happen. Their friendship with Europe will not go back to what it was and if it were up to me, we would distance ourselves significantly from America and hit them where it hurts, by simply stop buying American weapons and tech etc. and stop supply chains to both. My country apparently supplies America with components to build attack planes. Maybe we should find other buyers in the future. Maybe other European countries should do the same. I trust that our leaders are making plans that are being set in motion and the changses have already begun even if the effects aren't as immediate as one may like.

On a micro scale, I avoid using American products as much as possible. It is impossible in my job to avoid it because most of our gear and software is American, so I'm kinda fucked there, but in private I have taken several steps to avoid buying American anything. All the way down to something as silly as raisins.

There needs to be a cultural shift in America where making profit isn't the holy grail, but investment in people becomes a virtue.

That is what I want for America. And my pettiest side wants for those who voted for him to carry the shame of contributing to all this idiotic shit. I know some of them will always believe this was right, but a good number of his voters have since woken up to what they voted for and my petty ass want them to feel the shame for a very long time.

I hope there is a brighter future for you after all this stupidity is over. You deserve better.

When your government is buying tons of F-35s from the US and pushing chat control I think *you Danes should shut the fuck up.

I hope that moral advantage keeps a roof over your your head, food in your belly, keeps you warm at night in the next ten years.

😘

Btw, if you think this is all about money then you're flaunting your ignorance a little too proudly.

If we lost Greenland, we would suddenly have a lot more money to distribute on welfare in the rest of our kingdom. We invest in the Greenlandic people because they are part of our kingdom and everyone in the Danish kingdom has a right to free education and healthcare.

So yeah, if we lost Greenland, I would probably have an easier time financially as a Dane for the next ten years and onward, but this is not about money. Ironically, this is about freedom, something America seems to have taken for granted and forgotten the meaning of.

I didn't say anything about money. I was thinking more about the effects of losing your home to an american bomb, and the value of your moral high ground then. I took "We may or may not lose Greenland, but at least we won’t have to carry the pride of being the traitor nation that threatened and potentially invaded an ally in the 21st century" to mean something like, 'we may not be able to defend ourselves in a war against america, but at least we have a moral advantage.' Which, cool, and yes I agree, but your moral advantage won't keep you (or more to the point, the people of greenland) safe from bombs or bullets.

Put it another way: My driving teacher liked to say that graveyards are full of people who had the legal right-of-way.

And I wish you had included literally anything besides the emoji in your initial draft, as it was I didn't have any reason to reply to the emoji and had to read through the thread again to realize you actually substantively replied.

Oh wow, so the stakes are really high for you, huh?

Yeah. The stakes are really high. They are trying to annex part of my country's territory. Hello? Should I be act indifferent if they decided to annex Bornholm or Fyn too because in some aspects it would save my country money on welfare to those places?

It must be windy inside that spacious head of yours.

I've always wanted to know if the US can survive if the rest of the world bands together and attack the US from all sides.

We don’t need to do that. We should all divest from America. Stop using American companies, stop buying their products etc.

I already do this but I’m talking about governments we should treat America how it treated Cuba for so long

Soon:

i.e. trump only thinks about conquering but never about the bureaucratic difficulties in actually running another country. he already has problems running his own country, he basically doubles the difficulties if he takes another country.

> americans think they have power
> americans start a war
> americans lose the war against a bunch of dudes in sandy flip flops

Let's see history repeat itself. Again.

So the thing is, it's other countries that have been lending us the money to build and operate that military because the US generally didn't attack its own vassals.

Overseas wars are expensive as hell and if other countries stop regularly buying treasuries, the US budget is in trouble, immediately.

Words of a weak man propped up by racist grandmas.

Before the invasion of Ukraine, Russia was feared as a great military might of the world.

Now the curtain has been drawn back on the wizard, and it turns out they can't even properly subjugate their neighbors.

Makes me wonder how much of the military bravado from China and America is just a fancy veneer and how deep the corruption has managed to hollow out their ability to fight a real slugfest of a war, not these one-sided invasions and subsequent 20 year occupation.

He moved onto a military base because someone wrote something relatively benign on the sidewalk outside of his house with chalk.

American Democrats believe that Power allows them so sleep soundly, knowing that our nation can defend itself.

MAGAs believe that Power is useless unless it is being wielded at all times.

The problem is that Dems have become so complacent with their responsibility over Power, that they will do anything to keep from actually wielding it, even to protect America from an active, ongoing national security threat...

...While MAGA is enthusiastically using that Power to beat the rest of us, and the world, into submission.

The problem is that Dems have become so complacent with their responsibility over Power, that they will do anything to keep from actually wielding it, even to protect America from an active, ongoing national security threat…

Do you have an example of this?

How about the fact that Biden should have had all the MAGA leadership rounded up the moment he was inaugurated, and sent them all to Guantanamo for extensive interrogation. There we would have discovered the ongoing stolen documents treason, and much more. The Biden administration would have controlled the narrative, and charged and prosecuted the traitors, and starved them of the media attention that they so pathetically crave.

Instead, he appointed the most feckless Republican in existence to be his AG, and lead the prosecution of Trump and his henchmen, who then proceeded to dither and slow walk the cases, giving MAGA a two year head start on running out the clock, which they eventually did, aided by the mind-boggling negligence of the Biden administration.

Because of the Biden Administrations weakness, we may be stuck with this psychotic government, at least until it collapses under its own virtuosic incompetence.

That's one.

biden was there to maintain the status quo of the oligarchy, the thing trump was making things worst for them during covid, and do nothing about the culture war distractions, and not about class war.

How about the fact that Biden should have had all the MAGA leadership rounded up the moment he was inaugurated, and sent them all to Guantanamo for extensive interrogation. There we would have discovered the ongoing stolen documents treason, and much more. The Biden administration would have controlled the narrative, and charged and prosecuted the traitors, and starved them of the media attention that they so pathetically crave.

So what you're saying, is that you wanted Joe Biden to do the exact same thing Trump is trying to do to the democrats now, is that correct? You wanted Biden to break the law and direct his justice department to prosecute his political enemies. Is that right?

Do you understand why exactly it's important for the justice department to be independent of the president? Why do you think it's such a big deal when Trump directed Pam Bondi to arrest his political enemies with a fucking tweet, then a week later Letitia James and James Comey get indicted? You want the democrats to do that shit too? So you're fine being ruled by a tyrant as long as that tyrant arrests YOUR political enemies, right?

Because of the Biden Administrations weaknes

TIL a president following the law is "weakness"

Edit: What a coward.

So what you're saying, is that you wanted Joe Biden to do the exact same thing Trump is trying to do to the democrats now, is that correct?

Now listen to me very carefully because I have two things to say to this.

  1. I will not tolerate anyone "quoting" me by opening with "so what you are saying..." followed by an outright lie. That is a cheap shot with a shallow argument. I said what I said, not what you said I said, based on the worst interpretation of my actual words possible.

  2. Joe Biden took office only days after Donald Trump openly announced, planned, organized, promoted, rallied, and LAUNCHED a violent Insurrection with the primary objective to destroy a Constitutionally mandated ceremony to transfer power, and claim Dictator-For-Life.

The secondary objective was to kill the disloyal Vice President, and probably his family, and more. The chatter on all the Conservative media, long before and during the Insurrection, was hunger for vicious, violent retribution on their most despised enemies, like Pelosi, AOC, and others, mostly women. Photos of insurrectionists with handfuls of handcuffs on their belts, illustrate their intentions to take hostages.

And there was the ferocious attack by the mob, on the police that they purported to support the day before, and they claimed to support the next day, but on that day, they were trying to kill every last one of them. Watch the body cam footage of those cops in the tunnel, and imagine the feeling of those cops, fighting with everything they've got to defend the building, while trying to stay alive, and looking out on what must have looked like an endless wave of faces twisted in mob insanity. They had to have thought they would die that day, and several committed suicide within days of the battle.

The only thing that finally saved America was that the Traitors finally got hungry, and decided to go back to the local bars and drink to their victory.

When Biden took office, he was taking it from the biggest TRAITOR in American history, probably bigger than all other American traitors COMBINED, and that was before we knew about the False Electors Conspiracy, and the Stolen Classified Documents Scheme.

It would have been fully within his Constitutional rights and RESPONSIBILITIES to declare Donald Trump, and every single person who took any part in the conspiracy to overthrow our government as extreme National Security Threats to this nation, because THEY WERE, and still are.

The fact that we are in the situation we are in today, only proves how much of a national security threat they truly were, and only reinforces why the Biden should have acted boldly and decisively back then.

Biden, and hopefully the next Democratic president, would be arresting Trump and his henchmen because of their CRIMES against this country and it's citizens - a long list that we ALL know about. He is not being punished for his ignorant policies, except where they are used to commit more crimes.

But Trump is using the government's resources to settle personal, political scores, as well as to cover up his crimes by trying to silence the prosecutors who have had the courage to stand up to him.

Using the judicial system to target the crimes of the biggest national security threat in our country, is not the same as punishing one's personal enemies. If Trump has actual crimes to pin on his enemies, then he is welcome to charge them, but so far, the courts have rejected EVERY one of his vexatious lawsuits, because they are ludicrous.

So here is what I am saying:

Trump needs to account for his many CRIMINAL violations, and be punished for them. It's as simple as that.

I know fuck all about geopolitics but surely China and Russia at this point should just start doing crazy stuff to America.

Like Xi could kidnap Vance and put him on trial for something.

If the EU lets America take Greenland then there is no illusion of security anymore and America is how I’ve always seen them, bullies. At least now they own it with pride and I kinda respect that a little.

I hate violence but if Europe wants me to join a fight against the USA. I’ll sign up tomorrow.

But why skulls?

Life became so much simpler ever since I realized like 60% of people view the world this way

did you publish your study?

It's called "Industrial Society and Its Future", you can't miss it

In a way, it's nice to finally have it all on the table.

The USA has operated without regard to "democracy" and the "free world" since at least Nixon, probably sooner; they've often opposed democracy, even while claiming the exact opposite.

So, good, mask off, cards on the table (and even this is a mask, as in there are layers of control above Steven, he's just a mook).

Hitler thought the same.

Please bomb my country, anyone. And don’t stop until Washington is a smoldering crater.

Get me a bomb and a plane ticket and I’ll do my part.

make sure they are all gathered in mar-a-lago, like the oligarchs, and trumps admin was celebrating in one place.

Yo I think we might be living in the proverbial interesting times

seeing Miller saying "damn straight we can" makes me want to punch him in the face.

Hey Americans.

You’re all cowards!

Oh yeah? What are you doing, brave keyboard warrior?

Not a fucking thing, I bet.

Oh, yes, confirmed for "not a fucking thing" in your comments below. So brave!

You are every bit guilty of the very cowardice you are accusing hundreds of millions of strangers of (many of whom are doing something).

"No need to" my ass, this bullshit is happening globally, not just in one country.

so it's non-muricans who you expect to solve the issues you created by electing a fascist, racists, rapist, pedophile, convicted felon, TWICE into office?

Wow talk about entitled...

Wildly incorrect assumption, seems like you either did not read what I wrote or are trolling. In either case, you received more of a response than you deserve. Our interaction concludes here though, goodbye.

Who liberated the concentration camps during WW2 again? Oh yeah that's right.

Nobody is expecting anything from you. What do you suggest a normal person do about this?

Who liberated the concentration camps during WW2 again? Oh yeah that’s right.

Sowjet Union

???

You are the problem in today's world dude (and have been for a while now)... in WW2 Canada kicked ass as well (actually way earlier than you did, Canada did not wait to suck France and England dry before joining) so your very old flex is barely coherent and definitely not apt at this point

What do you suggest a normal person do about this?

A very civil General Strike? maybe one of those cutesy "no kings" march but on a weekday? is that really too much to ask of you after you screwed the pooch this bad?

@prole @Jhex

The soviets, mostly.

Do you also heckle cows forever trapped in a machine that saps them of their assets, force feeds them to fatten them and never let's them see the sun? It's easy to criticize from outside the machine.

Hey it's not us saying you have the intelligence of a cow

Again, it's easy to criticize from outside the machine...

It's even easier to find excuses to avoid even lifting a finger against the machine.

Also, the US has exported its awfulness to most of the world, so it's not like I'm immune. I'm just mad that I don't have the same power to change things that Americans do, but then all I hear back is fucking whining

Yeah we're not going to act. We're lazy, divided but most importantly afraid. Insult away though. Everyone assumes they're a hero until heroic shit needs doing.

Sure, that's fair enough. But what I don't get is the defeatism. All the disdain, reject and call for action seems to come from outside, from the inside only memes, vague and cold "we need to organize" statements, and learned helplessness.

I don't blame you to be clear. You have been the victims of the most sophisticated and cruel manipulation machine the world has ever seen. But just fucking throw something and take your country and lives back!! (for legal reasons this is a metaphor)

But what I don't get is the defeatism.

Because you didn't grow up here. You have no idea what it's like. Be grateful that you don't have to experience capitalism taken to its logical extreme. Basically this is the most successful experiment ever run for inducing executive dysfunction on a personal level.

Are you forgetting that insurance companies routinely deny medical care to people even after they've paid? I mean if that doesn't cause people to burn it down then what did you expect to happen here

"If someone screams on their own they're a lunatic, but if we all do it together it will be revolution"

My family resisted the Nazis, some died for it others like my ancestors barely made it to Switzerland alive. None of them were cowards.

You guys don’t do shit, live without health insurance and spend your last dime on the newest iPhone.

Sounds like your ancestors were pretty cool people. Did you specifically resist?

No need so far, but I absolutely would if things ever take a wrong turn here like they did in the states.

We even learn this in school here, you don’t stay silent during a fascist takeover.

No need so far? What fantasy utopia do you hail from friend?

"The right is winning all over the world" is right wing propaganda to make it seem an unavoidable certainty, as surveillance capitalism does. Sure there was quite a big push in that direction, but not everywhere and in many of those places there has been somewhat adequate pushback. Is the global political majority more right leaning than 5/10 years ago? Sure. Are the fascists winning everywhere? no

Are you responding to the wrong post or just putting words into my mouth?

The American strategy: don't be inspired by positives, look for negatives to bring them down to your level

What is this question supposed to mean? Aside from making you feel better about your apathy?

The message was written as "my family" but unless they are 80+ (possible) they did not personally resist and it is misleading to suggest or imply otherwise.

Anyone can look from the outside and say they'd do better. But given multiple countries have succumbed to the same authoritative shit then i wouldn't be so quick to judge. Punching down on Americans doesn't do anything either except make you feel good. Like you're better than us and wouldn't fall for the same shit. Or worse yet, you don't fall for the same shit but your country has systematically eroded the public education system for decades and made the rest of your country stupid and suspectible to brainwashing. Then you get to be aware of the horrors and atrocities your country participates in, and watch as your friends and family members support it. But fuck all Americans unless we dox ourselves and prove we resist in some meaningful way, as determined by this great federation!

To answer your question with specificity, the question was meant to clarify because i believe communication should be precise and the message to me is much different coming from someone who had actually resisted an authoritative regime as opposed to not. It was not meant to make me feel good about my apathy, nor do i have apathy for the current events in my country and that we oppose on others.

How American of you to ride on the shoulders of your ancestors while you sit on your ass behind a screen away from the problem.

My family resisted the Nazis

What year did they start?

I don’t see your country bombing us either; so I guess we’re all cowards here.

Where's your truck bomb?

I'm not getting felony charges to save what exactly?

That's exactly y'all's problem. You don't care, about anything other than your immediate vicinity.

To be clear, not because of something innate or inherent to being American, but because for at least two decades you've been manipulated into that position. But, honestly, sometimes your inability to break through sickens me

Well, i like to think that there are americans reading this. I want you guys to know that you are personally responsible for whatever your turd of a president does.

I'm reading this and I'm disgusted beyond belief and terrified too. I try to do all that I can to help and others do too but we really need help. No matter what country you're from you can help too.

What I hope is that you can do everything you can to ensure the far-right can never take over your country, advocate for media literacy, and ensure people boycott the biggest Trump-supporting companies in the US like Twitter, Tesla and Uline and encourage a faster transition to renewable energy because it's the fossil fuel companies who've been longtime backers of Republicans.

Are you in? Would you like to help?

Well sorry, no one strong enough to coup your country.

There is no help, this time. China is the only counterweight, and you really don't want to owe China.

I'd like to believe BoycottTwitter was referring to people helping keep the alt-right subdued in their own country; and to that point, This power-ravenous attitude of Stephen Miller echoed by Donald Trump showed Canada exactly that in their last election.

Of course, this doesn't prevent the USA alt-right fascists from seizing your country.

Oh, they will be subdued alright.

Except they're literally not being subdued, are they?

I don't know...are they?

No, the rest of the world isn’t in – it’s confused and dealing with the fact that you guys are about to start WW3 by attacking allies within two months. A lot of us are going to die fighting you.

Pretty much every country is dealing with a surge of aggressive right-wing dipshits. Ignore this, and you will follow us into tyranny.

You’re confused as I am, that’s all right, everything about this is highly confusing.

We’re busy right now with coming to terms with the possibility of having to fight YOU and YOUR unparalleled, aggressive rightwing dipshit. We’re at the precipice of being backed in to a corner where our priorities change to putting as many of YOU in boxes as possible.

Your appeal for solidarity and boycott are amicable and welcome. But deleting Twitter isn’t really an action plan befitting the gravity of the situation. Of course I want to be ”in” and on your side. But for that to happen Americans have to clearly demonstrate that they don’t tolerate policies that get me and my friends and family killed, because I don’t have use for friends who do.

Nobody sane wants a war or even being on the brink of one – but this is what’s at stake with the courses of actions Trump says he intends to take within the coming months. There will be a before and after, even if the European states cave without bloodshed.

You aren't going to die fighting me because I would refuse to fight my friends and allies.

Also shouldn't you at-least try to decouple focusing on the worst of the worst companies first?

"If I was in a fascist country, I would be the first to start shooting!"

This USAmerican heard a whoooole lot about punching Nazis, arson, and pipebombs; right until Trump won the 2024 election.

And what are you doing to prevent the rise of right-wing authoritarianism in YOUR country? Because I guarantee they're putting pressure on your governmental systems, too.

America is the Canary In A Coalmine. It was deliberately targeted by the far right because they knew that whoever controlled America could eventually control the world. Those same forces are coming for your nation next.

Instead of blaming the PEOPLE for the evil government that has been forced upon us, work with us to crush the rising far right across the world.

The Taliban: *clears throat*

Do we still build sky scrapers that tall? I guess the terrorist won that one.

If you can't see a line between 9/11 and the current state of the US it's probably time to take the blinkers off.

The replacement is the same height as the twin towers.

The US has been on the losing side of every armed conflict it’s been involved in for 80 years. The clowns currently in charge believe that streak is at least double that.

You know thats the whole thing. We haven't lost though. Not at home. thousands of citizens have been killed and maimed but to these trash humans in charge those people were not even human, just things to be used and discarded. Whats for sure is we have left every country we have screwed up worse and less stable than when we arrived. Including south Korea.

The worst part of the US not having won a single conflict in all that time is you can't convince these magat morons that is true.

Just no concept of soft power

"They have plundered the world, stripping naked the land in their hunger… they are driven by greed, if their enemy be rich; by ambition, if poor… They ravage, they slaughter, they seize by false pretenses, and all of this they hail as the construction of empire. And when in their wake nothing remains but a desert, they call that peace."

Think about the fact that Stephen fucking Miller sees himself this way. Or at least he wants to project that he sees himself this way. The guy who's chin is weaker than an eggshell, and who's hair line already disappeared like it was running from the draft by the time he turned 18.

This is what happens when affluent little privileged piss babies never learn that no means no. They will keep escalating until somebody slaps the shit out of them and knocks them down a few pegs.

PeeWee Himmler worships Hitler, and sees himself as a Hitler-style orator, but when he actually speaks, he sounds like a whiney, petulant child demanding respect.

It would be comedic, if he wasn't Trump's closest and most trusted advisor, his Wormtongue, whispering poison in Trump's ear.

To know PeeWee Himmler is to despise him. The Dems should make him a central issue in the Midterms.

He seems to crave attention, so making him a central issue would probably be too rewarding for his little ego. Even mentioning his name isn't something he deserves, I think a pseudonym, (the 4'10" mayonnaise matador) might be a more appropriate way to include him in discussions.

He and his wife are so desperate to remain relevant because they know once the show is over they go back to being an obscure reference to once of America's dumbest and darkest time periods.

He did similar attention seeking shit last administration, then disappeared until 2020. Now that re-election isn't really an issue anyone has to be concerned about, the Trump 2.0 attention tactics have become so much more absurd and unhinged, but at the end of the day so much of this is theater and sad little men with fragile egos testing the boundaries of what they can get away with before somebody forces them to stop.

Nobody with any real power in the U.S. (which in the U.S. always=money) seems very interested in making them stop (and I honestly wouldn't be surprised to learn its because they're putting on their own show and taking their own cut of the profits while pretending to be opposed to everything he's doing).

They amp up the Roman empire act because it's all they have. Coming back at them with an equal brute force tough guy act is unlikely to do anything to stop them from escalating. However, when you start really fucking with their ability to make money, it seems like they tend to shut the fuck up real quick.

Even the mayonnaise matador seemed to take a brief break from the spotlight over the last few months, before coming back with this shit. I suspect it has something to do with inadvertently drawing too much attention to the shares of Palantir he bought in his child's name (which he was subsequently forced to quietly sell).

I wonder what kind of investments he and mrs. mayonnaise matador are banking on by hyping up the invasion of Venezuela and annexing Greenland? I would be curious to know if he (or more likely his children) coincidentally bought some shares of Chevron prior to the invasion.

Stephen Miller Dumps Defense Contractor Stocks to Comply With Ethics Laws

isnt he also jewish, and KATIE IS poc. the least NAZI-ARYAN skin to lead a group.

I better use some military just in case I start imperialism. You know I'm automatically attracted to oil resources —I just start seizing them. It's like a magnet. Just seize. I don't even wait. And when you're a US President, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the state leader. You can do anything.

Let's send back in caskets as many Americans that we can then, In case of an invasion, wonder how long will their strength last. Vietnam did it

Can you focus on the leadership instead of the people being exploited please

Soldiers can quit anytime or just not follow orders. If they ever set foot on Greenland as part of an invasion then they are the enemy as much as Trump would be.

And attacking a US ally is another textbook example of an automatically illegal order. It's literally a treaty violation & that is categorically illegal.

American soldiers need to be reminded of the age old American tradition of fragging

can quit anytime or just not follow orders

Underestimating the duress and indoctrination.

American soldiers are subjected to the best mind control techniques in human history, and they are applied when the subjects are most malleable, right out of high school. And they tend to get those who are lost, with no life plan, other than "Join the military."

It works so well, that many of them make that their lifetime identity, wearing it on hats, and telling literally everybody that they're a veteran, and demanding respect like they stormed Normandy alone.

Yep. Makes sense why USA has so many homeless and prisoners, and why there's such weak social security to induce the precarity fear and desperation. Then they offer you social security if you join the military. Sick.

If they are mindless drones then they are even more dangerous.

Oh, won't some body pweeese think of the poor wittle baby innocent Nazi soldiers! They were victims of Hitler too!

lol at all the Americans here who shocked and offended when people in other countries talk about defending themselves.

Zero self-awareness.

If I get drafted into some stupid war and shipped off to the front lines, I hope they do the same to people like you who think sitting around and advocating for death is a fun pastime

No. If you join the US military and obey these orders you are just as responsible as the leadership.

Don't feel bad for mercenaries.

There is reason why word "patriots" rhymes with "idiots"

It doesn't, don't write any song lyrics.

They've long since learned their lesson from that.

Same lesson as with the drone bombings.

They keep that shit censored.

And the American people don't rise up, because they see nothing.

Vietnam had a significant supply of soldiers from China, so they "could" take the human loss. The US can deploy more soldiers in Greenland than there are inhabitants there, in just a few days.

He might live in that world but the rest of the world doesnt see it that way. Thats been a problem with trumps boytoys since day one.

So when is the EU finally selling all US bonds?

That would be a very strong move. Just selling 10% of it could/would start a sell rush. The outcome could prove disastrous.

It would just devalue the bonds, not the dollar.

If you have a selling rush of sovereign debt, that usually brings down the overall valuation for that country's debt.

Buyers will want higher interest rates for that debt and shorter maturities.

There is a limited amount of wealth that can be produced in a given time window. Running the prints would cause massive inflation, thus devaluing the currency further.

Cascade effect.

This all stops if enough of us say no. Sell your stocks. Let's reset the power they think they have.

And the fact that Clownstick is all over the Epstein files, will NEVER get any attention again.

Americans are such dipshits. And you know they're going to vote Republican again.

Some MAGA even had their wife deported and they're STILL gonna vote R

america is center right, thats why even bush is palatable to some people. Plus NEWSOM becoming the '28 nominee is what the oligarchs want, they dont want an AOC, ZORHAN, or bernie type in the oval office.

You just called 350m dipshits and don’t think that really shows you’re the idiot here. I’m not American btw.

This has fuck all to do with the overblown Epstein files and has everything to do with imperialism. Sick of you weirdos going on about silly Epstein files which is a massive nothing burger. Maybe you get 10 people involved. Oh no the horror.

Lol let's see what that does to morale. Also, all navies are sitting ducks, given marine drone advancements. Let's just hope nobody is going to throw nukes

Edit: moral to morale

If humanity can manage to not use nukes has been the big question, right? Existing nuclear powers haven't dared to start with them, but neither the USSR or the old US were fascist.

Conventionally, it's not hopeless. Surface ships may or may not be survivable. Europe has a bigger population and similar GDP, and an actual reason to fight. Trump has a clear path to autocratic power right now, but that would be put a bit up in the air if there was a major war.

(Also it's morale)

Trump has a clear path to autocratic power right now, but that would be put a bit up in the air if there was a major war.

It would be, at the same time, it is either way, and conflict and war is a strong enabler of dictators. Putin rose from a 2% popularity to absolute systematic power through (probably staged) terrorist attacks and conflict.

It was a different situation, and Trump is not Putin.

He'd still be dealing with 40% of the population who hates him in an organised way, and who no longer can pretend it's all just on paper. At the same time, the military would have an incentive to not follow his lead, and some legal tradition behind it too.

Sure, he could seize on the crisis to entrench his power further, or something could go wrong. In peace there's not much that could go wrong anymore.

Edit: Maybe Russia circa WWI would be a better parallel.

Why can I take your child's lunch money? Because fuck you.

The short racist fuck would create a massive cluster fuck.

Man. So much Shit in the passt 72 hours and I have No Idea what to feel or how to cope..

As Europe, we have of course made ourselves largely independent from the United States over many years. We are familiar with Trump’s unpredictability. You can say 'We should now confront the Americans head-on!', but the question is: A) with what? Because militarily we still depend on them. Economically, we are now roughly half the size or 2/3 of the U.S. economy, whereas twenty years ago we were about the same size. We critically need the United States when it comes to Ukraine.

Aside from the question of what instruments we actually have, there are other interests at play as well and the complexity lies in the fact that international law essentially came into existence after WWII because the victors of that war, particularly the Western European countries together with the United States, set the norms of that international law.

What we are seeing now is that the Americans are letting go of those norms which were set after WWII, which in practice means that the new power-holders in the world: Xi, Putin, and Trump are saying: these are the new international rules by which we will operate.

Two nuances: Trump has not taken over Venezuela with his people; he has removed the president there, but he cannot station an army there. His base does not want that, and Americans more broadly do not want that either. The same naturally applies to Greenland: he cannot send a troop force there without losing his base, because he promised them he would not create new wars. So that will not happen.
Instead, he will use it as a means of pressure against the Danes and Europe, a form of gunboat diplomacy.

Sorry, but your comment is full of half-truths and therefore not productive:

The EU’s economy is 2/3 of the US’s in nominal GDP (not about half, sry), and after PPP we are almost equal (which doesn’t mean much, as prices vary widely in the EU, but still doesn’t help your argument).

Also, needing the US for Ukraine is just speculation; the US has already withdrawn its financial support, and the EU has started stepping in...

needing US for Ukraine aint no speculation, europe can fund and assemble weapons, but many critical components are still U.S.-based, and no one in Europe currently matches U.S. mass-production capacity, not yet at least,

Venezuela is 25 million people, with endless jungle and mountains. America literally cannot occupy them

Greenland is 50,000 people, concentrated in a few towns.

They are going to just quickly kill everyone and sweep them under the rug, aren't they?

I think the whole world should unite together in a single alliance and fuck them up.

It would be great fot the United States and the world if an aneurysm took little Stephen home to be with Jesus. Shall we now bow our heads and pray for this miracle?

The UK and France should train their nukes on the US. Sure, they only have around 500 combined, but that's more than enough to destroy pretty much everything of note.

Like seriously, no one wants to threaten nuclear war but Europe has to use every threat it has against Trump.

If another nation wants to arrest Stephen Miller for war crimes and crimes against humanity Im pretty sure no one would stop them. Even his SS detail would be like "Go for it bro, this mini Gobbels guy sucks ass."

!nottheonion@lemmy.world

Yeah no we live in a world where you can get bent

There's actually quite a lot of vietnamese expats in Denmark, just let them do a sabbatical in Greenland and watch the US ruin its economy and bring hippies back if they try to invade.

In case you haven't noticed these have been US policies for the past century. There are more than a thousand US military facilities in europe.

Pride goeth ... and it's gonna be SO nice to see Trump, Miller, Hegseth, and the rest of that orange anus motorboating crew begin their life sentences one day.

Power corrupts.

And corruption causes collapse.

They’re just after some Lebensraum. If the world lets them have this they’ll surely stop being so expansionist. /s

In the end it's all about the Power Law. We will all eventually die in a huge war. That's it.

We should probably get putin a thermonuclear suppository. That might cure our democracy. Plus ruzzia has lots of oil!

All of these calls to action for Americans... If collectively the world thinks we're a threat y'all drop the nukes. Go right the fuck ahead.

It's reasonable for a nation defending itself. I'll just smoke a cigar while I watch the mushroom cloud and await the radioactive shockwave. Cheers everyone. Happy dystopia.

A united earth would fuck the united states. Changing the world currency would crush us and while you would have a huge shock of military might. Sanctions and no allies would drain the united states pretty fast. Remember, we don't have the manufacturing capabilities to isolate and keep up a war machine. We would have to convert every single manufacturing company into wartime production. Which wouldn't hold a candle to the world capabilities. Stop selling shit to the US. A united Earth changes currency standards and the US falls quick.

Wouldn't hold my breath on that

So, just asking questions here, say I have the power to cause a local police station to suddenly disentegrate, ...