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I am so scared of nuclear war, how do I cope with it?

7d 5h ago by sh.itjust.works/u/someacnt in nostupidquestions

I fear that nuclear war could be happening soon..

Global tensions seem to be rising, and superpowers are allowed to be more and more reckless. It feels like the third world war is imminent, a nuclear war which would end everything.

I am so scared.. I am so paralyzed to do anything now. Am I overreacting? Also, what should I be doing?

Get involved and build resilience in your local community. It's super beneficial for your mental health, social health and you can do something tangible that does make a difference. This resilience will help build and maintain and more importantly sustain the structural and social support for things like general strikes. It's quite literally grounding in practice and people always need to eat. It's a place to meet people that also care.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240105073255/https://effectiveactivist.com/zine/

It is only in the oppressor's benefit to do otherwise. Remember these are the same people causing both issues.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/nov/11/inactivists-tangling-up-the-climate-crisis-in-culture-wars-manston-airport-kent

Edit: Also check out !zines@slrpnk.net for inspiration. :)

Great advice

We all need each other. ❤️

More in the same vein:

https://infosec.exchange/@tinker/115832508196201635

Their linked guide is a great summary. The archive.org link above is partially a workbook to help people figure out where to start with these things too with considering personal abilities and needs... There are so many options!! !citizenscience@mander.xyz too, is a form of praxis through the building of public knowledge, skills and to help inform policy. No matter what happens, there's always something to do.

I was born in 1975, and during the eighties a nuclear war was always just about to happen. I can't tell you what you should be doing, for the most we just lived with it. What helped was there was no 24/7 news cycle back then, so maybe try to block out the news to maintain a healthy consumption level?

From what I understand, global nuclear war was an ongoing concern by the mid-50's, when the nuclear arms race got in to full swing. Along the timeline of the ensuing Cold War, there have evidently been a shocking number of close calls, with global war being averted by a single individual in some cases.


Let that sink in, if you will-- a SINGLE ... fecking ... person choosing to do the adult and humane thing, for the good of all us other humans, and most life on Earth.

Holy shit, does that person(s) deserve one hell of a victory parade, y'know?!


Now one note of interest might be that the USSR's cache of nuclear arms may not have been well-maintained over the years, so modern Russia might be sitting on a far more limited amount of live weapons than exists on paper. FWIW... which of course probably isn't much, in the end.

Most of the problems and anxiety of the USA in 2025 comes down to the FACT that POTUS has more singular power than any king of any nation. No one is even hinting at changing that for the future.

What does an 80 year old man with dementia and one foot in the grave care about launching nukes? No one in a nation of pussies will stop him.

No one is even hinting at changing that for the future.

That's not really true, though. AOC, Sanders and others have been ceaselessly vocal about these matters, directly influencing change. And unless there's systemic, nationwide fraud at the voting booths in November (I mean, much more than the usual), then the so-called "GOP" currently in charge is going to be in deep trouble from that point on. At least going by precedent and current rules, which of course might be somehow subverted by the Orangies, such as a declaration of martial law, etc.

No one in a nation of pussies will stop him.

The people manning the actual equipment are still military lifers, far as I know. From what I understand, it's those types of folks who've historically prevented global nuclear war every time there was a chance of it happening.

This article may help: https://positivepsychology.com/circles-of-influence/

And a graphic that sums it up:

I’m just another internet rando, but looking at the same events everyone else is, I do think the masses will turn this around through solidarity. I believe: It will be before any nukes are used. It will be after long lasting climate change. But it will prevent the downfall of humanity. There will be human and natural healing. Most people will be okay.

What do I have power over to make this happen? Mostly numerous, small, interpersonal interactions.

Well said. Focus on what you can influence and realize most things are outside of your control.

You step outside and touch some grass. If Lemmy is starting to affect your mental health, you need to put it down.

Exposure therapy: nuke yourself a few times. Your anxiety will vanish.

I do the closest thing I can, which is lick my smoke alarm every night and sleep with 1kg of banana next to my pillow.

Think about it this way, if nuclear war does happen then you ain't gonna have much time to worry about it.

A lot of other people have posted some really good stuff in terms of coping, and I think most of them are completely correct; it’s not something you can control, so it’s out of your hands and not really worth worrying about. That said, knowing that has never helped me stop worrying about something before, so I figured I’d type this up in case it helps. 🙂

Nuclear weapons have been a particular interest of mine for years. I’ve read most of the books out there on them, and I’m very familiar with the strategy involved in how they would be deployed in a conflict. I’ve also been to Trinity Site at the White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico twice, where the first nuclear weapon was tested, so I’ve seen their impact in person (I also have plans to visit Japan, and also the testing sites in Nevada, but haven’t been able to make those work out yet).

If a nuclear war happens, it won’t be the end of everything. They are big, scary, and should an actual full-scale exchange take place hundreds of millions (perhaps even billions) of people will die. It would be an absolutely cataclysmic event.

But that wouldn’t end everything.

A lot of people talk about how we have enough nuclear weapons to destroy the world, which is hyperbolic. The Earth has seen much worse than a nuclear exchange, and it’ll be fine. Overall life will also be fine; plenty of plants and animals would get wiped out, because it would be a mass extinction event, but a huge amount of life would survive and be just fine.

What people mean is that human life would be destroyed, and yeah, fair enough, we’d definitely have a major regression in civilization. But it wouldn’t kill everyone (probably nowhere even close to everyone), and humanity would continue to exist. The impacts of the dust kicked up by the bombs would probably cause some global cooling temporarily, similarly to a couple huge volcanic eruptions at the same time would, and life would become pretty difficult, but it won’t wipe us out.

If you live in a major city in the United States, Europe, Russia, or China, none of this really matters to you. If a nuclear war happens, you might get 10-15 minutes notice, but probably the first you’ll know about it is when an intensely bright flash happens. If you’re close enough, you won’t even have a chance to understand what it is. If you’re a bit further away, you might survive the initial flash of radiation, but be killed by the blast wave, or by burns caused either by the intense amount of heat released or by the radiation itself. The exact radius for this is going to vary based on exactly what type of warheads are detonated in your area, but we’ll say if you’re within a couple miles you’ll likely be killed within a few days because of that.

If you’re outside that second zone, you’re going to probably be okay, at least for a while. You might have some burns you can recover from, your lifetime risk of cancer might be a lot higher depending on where you were, and you may have other injuries related to the bombing, but you’ll probably survive long enough to help with recovery. Congrats!

You asked what you can do to prepare. Well, honestly, not a lot. I’d recommend preparing the same way you should for basically any other large-scale disaster. Ignoring radiation (I’ll get to it in a minute), a nuclear bomb’s aftermath is going to be similar to an earthquake or large fire. Keep a few days or a week of bottled water on hand for each person in your household (and maybe a way to purify water longer-term), have food supplies, some basic medical gear, and emergency lighting/communications equipment. If you’re really concerned about nuclear war specifically, add in some iodine tablets for each member of the household. If you do this, you’ll be prepped not just for nuclear war, but also any of the other much more likely disasters that may occur in your lifetime.

Now, as for the radiation question. Most nuclear weapons are not made to spread large amounts of radiation around. They absolutely will release radiation, but it makes the reaction less efficient, reduces yield, and massively increases cost per bomb. I’m not saying here that it’s not something to worry about or be aware of, but it’s a smaller problem than Hollywood and mass media would have you believe it is. Avoid eating or drinking things that are from directly downwind of an explosion, and try to not let any ash or particles stay on you/breath them in, and you’ve done what you can. Most of radiation exposure management comes down to keeping particles out of your body, particularly the lungs. The longer you’re exposed to radiation, the more likely it is that it’ll do something bad to you. The best remedy is to keep it out of your body as much as you can, and put distance between it and you so the inverse-square law can help.

I hope this helps a bit. Overall, even with global tensions rising, I think the chance of nuclear war is very very low. We’ve been very very close to at least a limited exchange before, and pulled through, and despite everything going on I think the chances of an actual nuclear exchange remains incredibly slim. If you want to prepare, pretend it’s like another large-scale (and much likelier) disaster, and prep for that.

I’ve skipped over some things that weren’t really pertinent, like actual nuclear war theory, and simplified other things, so if you want me to expand on any of this let me know! Nuclear history has been one of my special interests for years and years, and I enjoy talking about it.

I'll also add about the radiation thing - the vast majority of the radiation from a nuclear explosion will be gone in just a few days. Even if you're close enough to be affected, staying indoors (turn off air conditioning/heating though) and on the lowest floor possible of the building you're in will protect you from most of the actual radiation. Again, the big issue is breathing it so sealing windows if you're able could also help.

Media definitely overestimates the area of effect and timeline of destruction. Make sure you get a crank radio (they usually also double as flashlights and can charge your phone) and info will flow about response, even if it flows slowly and clunky at first. The good news is this applies to other disasters that are far far more likely to affect you, like severe winter weather, hurricanes, or wildfires.

If it really is paralyzing you and affecting your day-to-day decisions, you should see a therapist to help you put things in context and develop good coping mechanisms.

I actually think the threat of nuclear war is pretty low compared to other points in history.

Now the entire world turning into a Nazi state on the other hand

The best way to cope with the news is to ignore it. There is no reason to read about and obsess over things you have no power to change. Focus on your own life and the people around you, learn mindfulness and deeply ponder the structure of trees, the intricate shapes of the clouds, whatever nature is around you, and breathe.

yeh I've been doing just this a lot as of late.. and Lemmy tell ya, there's a lot of natural beauty in his world, from clouds to the fractal shapes of plant life (ferns esp). best not to worry about impending doom and things you cannot change.

Read some history.

There was much more saber rattling going on in the Cold War than there is now.

The 0.01% aren't going to risk their life style to prove a point.

Am I overreacting?

No.


Could you please elaborate your fears? Like are you scared of dying in a nuclear blast, having the planet and consequently humanity devastated by the nuclear winter, changes that precede the nuclear war, or are you afraid of living in the post nuclear war, dealing with the consequences of it?

having the planet and consequently humanity devastated

We don't need nuclear war for that, we're already well on our way there just by continuing to use fossil fuels and raping the earth and demonizing any kind of environmental / climate protections. Conventional war is a huge contributor to emissions, and political instability also doesn't need nuclear war to affect you negatively.

Does that help? On one hand, everything is going to shit already even without nukes flying. On the other hand maybe it helps if the things you fear are not that one huge spectre of nuclear hellfire that seems impossible to prevent for an individual, but many smaller things where normal people can make a difference through their actions.

The chance of that happening is insanely low. Superpowers have been threatening it since the 80’s and no one has any intention to do shit about it.

Also, everyone knows it’s a lose-lose situation- but no one will admit it. They all want everyone to believe they’ll be the only victors…

Did you forget about that dementia ridden, sociopathic, egomaniacal moron in the whitehouse? Man would fire a nuke by accident, let alone if someone had the audacity to criticize him in any way.

The danger of nuclear war wouldn't be the radiation but poisoned water, food, air, due to the vaporized stuff thrown high into the athmosphere.

Hope that helps.

That definitely helps putting my mind off of the fear of radiation. Thanks.

Yeah, the heightened potential for nuclear annihilation is terrifying but there's frankly nothing you can do to survive it. Even if you somehow lived though the bombings, there's no corner of the globe where starvation nor irradiation would not reach. The Earth would be uninhabitable and death would be certain for most land animals.

It's a tragic way to die and for the human race to cease to be. But it's only death and that's certain to happen one way or another. There are countless other ways you could die that are either within or beyond your control. Many are far more likely to happen than nuclear war. Do you fret about being killed in an accident every time you step into a car?

I know it's a lot easier said than done but try to live in the now rather than the future. Plan for tomorrow but recognize that, unlike the present, the future is not guaranteed. Don't take the present for granted, go do things that bring you fulfillment now because ultimately that is the only time that you have control over.

I disagree. Someone who really prepares by storing food, having a place underground to survive for a period, and takes sufficient precautions could live. It would be expensive and difficult to prepare, and even then may not work, but I don't think it's true that people can't try to prepare at all.

It's certainly plausible to survive the initial bombings by taking adequate shelter, you may even be able to stock up enough provisions to survive for several months. The problem is what follows.

Nuclear winter is hypothesized to change the climate to the point where growing food is impossible, potentially for several years. Any animals you can hunt before they eventually succumb to starvation will have been poisoned by the fallout, their meat contaminated.

The fallout will spread across the globe, making the air you breathe toxic, either by radiation poisoning or by any number of harmful construction materials such as asbestos which is now particleized and floating freely.

If by some miracle you do still cling to life by this point, you will either be completely alone or surrounded by people just as desperate to survive as you are. Only in fiction do either of those situations end well.

So in that situation you need beans and rice and water purification (filters) that last 3 years. It's expensive, but not impossible. There are people who already have that stored, and most of those people are very smart and well-prepared.

The billionaires don't want all-out nuclear war, what they want is world domination by a few, over a literal slave class mix of humans and robots.

However, in case of imminent attack in an outbreak of a nuclear WWIII, the best plan is to drive toward the biggest city in your region, or stay put if you currently live in a big city.

I'll take instant vaporization over whatever the survivors are going to need to deal with in the aftermath.

Control the controllable. This axiom also applies to most things in life.

You can die any number of ways at any time for any reason. Why fixate on one? Probably more likely to die in an automobile accident or some mundane bullshit than nuclear war.

A global, world-ending nuclear war is still unlikely at this point.

There's a fair few steps in between filled with horrors that we get to pass first. Such as when superpowers realise that since nobody can realistically use nukes, conventional warfare is back on the table (e.g. if China invades Taiwan and the US intervenes, will either side nuke the other's population centers? Probably not).

Then follows the realisation that superpowers can use nuclear weapons in a conventional war, but in a more tactical way (as a little treat). Don't bomb a city, bomb a navy, or an airfield or army base instead.

Global nuclear war would only happen if a nuclear state is threatened with total destruction. But fully destroying a state hasn't been the playbook for some time now. Instead, take whatever peripheral stuff you want, and strategically weaken the enemy state in key areas (e.g. take out an important figurehead, like the US did with Maduro, or fund/arm insurgencies like in Syria). Let civil unrest then do the rest and topple the government for you. Then use diplomatic/economic/military pressure to sway the fledgling new government into your sphere of influence. With a bit of luck the country itself isn't totally ravaged and can become profitable fairly soon.

if you find you have constant anxiety or are having intrusive thoughts or are obsessed with something and are unable to control it then please please please see a doctor or therapist if you can

there are lots of approaches and therapies you can use to train your brain to cope with anything better and have more agency and feel a happier life

Just to be a devil's advocate: fear is an evolutionary response and is there for a reason and is sometimes highly rational. Talking yourself out of fear to conform to society's expectations is not always smart.

A weird thing I've found somewhat calming is to prepare for the worst. If you think that might calm you down, look up how to make a go-bag, so that if you were to find yourself in a situation where you'd have to evacuate, be it running to a bomb shelter for a few hours or permanently leaving your area, you'd have a bag with basic survival supplies (flashlight, first aid supplies, non-perishable food, drinking water, swiss army knife if you can get one, clothing) ready to grab. I find the thought that if the worst case scenario happens, I wouldn't be completely unprepared. Of course, this doesn't work for everyone.

Then there's the general things people do to cope with these feelings: talk to someone, preferably a professional, find something to give you hope. That something can be a game, a craft, a friend, good news, etc.

Buy potassium iodide tablets. If it happens and it's too close, you won't even know. If it isn't too close, take the pills and become a wasteland raider.

Otherwise just live your life because nothing you do really matters concerning nuclear war. That's like worrying about an asteroid impact.

Iodide only protects from iodine isotopes.

Frankly it doesn't matter because if you're close enough to need anti radiation meds, the lack of food, water, power, and shelter will be a much more pressing issue. The gist of my comment was supposed to be "go buy these pills for peace of mind because that's about the only 'preperation' you can do for nuclear war. Really you should just relax and live your life".

It's good to stay informed but try not to let it impact your day to day mental health. Consider that we've been under threat of mass nuclear war for about 80+ years now and haven't been in a full scale one yet.

There's little that you're able to actually influence so as ignorant as it may sound, try to avoid worrying about it. If it happens, it happens, you won't feel better for having worried about it and there isn't much you could plan for anyway.

Focus on the things and people that matter to you and take each day as it comes on the basis that nuclear war is not happening.

I suggest playing around with this.
https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
it's a nuclear weapons detonation simulator.

You need to understand that it's profitable for the media to overly dramatize what nukes can do. Modern media profits from fear. In reality the destruction is very localized. Think of an area you are knowledgeable. Does the media portray anything you do correctly? As long as you are not in major target city or military base you will be fine. I had a 20 minute commute to the base I worked on. Turns out my house was outside the blast radius if the base was nuked. It wouldn't even break the windows.

FYI: I use to work for the army, I was on the peripheral of their prep for nuclear war. When you actually dig into the effects, it just a big boom. Meanwhile you have trucks and rail cars full of toxic material and poisonous gas driving through your town every day and for the most part nothing ever happens.

As long as you are not in major target city ... you will be fine.

That seems pretty complacent tbh.

First of all even just the top 30 cities in the US are home to about 41 million people. Which seems a lot of folk to simply write off.

Also, the destruction of the major cities would cause huge/complete economic, social, infrastructural and legal collapse for the rest of the country.

Plus, even for those outside the immediate blast radius, there'd be the massive environmental impact of pollution to land and water, not least the potential for a nuclear winter killing off crops, and then animals.

Turns out my house was outside the blast radius if the base was nuked.

Without knowing the size of the bomb, how could you know you would be outside it? Not that blast radius is all that matters anyway.

So you didn't even look at the link I provided?

It lets you select the warhead size and whether it is an air burst or ground burst. Also since the Cold War ended, most countries, except china, have opted for smaller warheads and better precision. Most rogue states can only manage a fission bomb not a fusion devices, the same goes for India and Pakistan. And a fission device is what is used as a tactical nuke by the major powers. It is what Russia is threatening Ukraine with.

So the most likely device to go off now, is about the same yield of one of the original ones used on Japan.

The doomsday scenario you describe will only happen if every nuclear armed power everywhere unloads their entire arsenal all at once. If that were to happen you still will not need to worry, because you will be dead. But I put that as a very low probability event. Putin doesn't want to die, Trump doesn't want to die, Xi doesn't want to die. Nobody is going to go there.

Move to Washington D.C. or Cheyenne Wyoming, if you're inside the blast radius then you won't have to live to see the world end.

At this point, Florida should also be on that list.

Yeah but then you’re living in Florida. Nukes or not, it ain’t worth it.

Come, friendly nukes...

Touch some grass, go to therapy and stop watching the news.

You don't, you have no direct control over world events.

You have a choice, you can either join an activist group and maybe get some comfort that you're doing something or take a break and focus on getting the most out of life.

Am I overreacting

Yes.

Totally understandable in the world with the dopamine fueled news cycles running on fear.

But, nuclear war is very unlikely, that's why Putin is threatening it every other week, he knows he won't do it, and other leaders know that too. It's meant to terrorise people.

Help Ukraine to grind down russia so that eventually we can denuclearise them (remove the Kremlin and let the russians have another try at democracy would be nice too) is IMO the closest any regular person can do today.

I agree that things are looking bleak, but im still hopeful for the future.

Nuclear war is a possibility, but very unlikely.

I think basic preparedness in these troubled times is just sensible. Not "prepper" stuff, but enough water and caned foods for 3 days or something.

Other than that just build local, off-line relationships.

Step 0:

Take 3, intentional, deep breaths.

Inhale for 5 seconds, hold for 5 seconds, slowly exhale for 5 seconds.

Do three of em.


Step 1:

Accept that one day, maybe soon, maybe in the fairly distant future:

You Will Die.

No avoiding it. None of us make it out of here alive.

... really try to actually come to grips with that.

There's no reward or punishment at the end, its not a judged competition... it just stops, everything goes away, and you go away.

Game over.

Its not fair or unfair. It just is.


Step 2:

Understand that while you are amongst the realm of the living, some things are within your control and others are not, and precisely which things land in which of those categories could change a good deal depending on who exactly you are, what you do or don't have access to, where exactly you are, etc.

Maybe it makes sense for you to try and build up a bit of an emergency food and water supply, a method of generating power, staying warm or cool, etc, in case shit hits the fan.

Maybe it makes more sense to establish some kind of bug out plan and procedure.

Maybe, it just makes the most sense to just accept that if you're in a very important / very dense area....well, one day, you might just evaporate.


Unfortunately, withot knowing more about you and your situation, I can't really say which three of those is the framework of a better approach, or if something entirely different would make more sense.

But for any of those... don't kick yourself for ... things you didn't do or prepare for in the past, don't expect to be able to suddenly just 'solve' this 'problem.'

Beyond being terrible for your mental health and just aggrevating the panic spiral, trying to do those things is ineffective, not productive at even attempting to 'solve' the 'problem'.

Break it down into bite sized chunks that are manageable, that each, on their own, put you in a generally better position than not doing them.

Don't dive headfirst with crazy expensive shit, start with the basics, as if you were preparing for a 3 day emergency from like a tornado or flood or local/regional grid failure or earthquake or hurricane.

Yeah, nukes and war don't play by all the same rules as those, but a lot of the basics are the same.


Basic food and water supply, basic medkit, flashlight, hand crankable emergency radio, thermal/moon blanket, solid set of clothes, two sets of undies and socks, decent backpack, decent multipurpose knife, probably some all purpose gloves, solid shoes, solid all purpose coat that you can either open up and air out, or stuff more layers underneath to stay warm... some means of starting a fire...

... these days probably a battery bank/solar charger for a phone... if you're a lady or gonna be with one or some: tampons...

... make sure you've got important ids and documents somewhere secure and ready to go, if you need to go...

... definitely doesn't hurt to have a couple hundred in cash, smallest bills as you can, just in case some electronic payment system goes down and you need to pay for something.

Pretty much most of that shit can fit into a normal backpack, and if you can put that together, you're doing way better than being totally and completely unprepared.

Goddammit we're going to hell for laughing at this reply aint we

You don’t control geopolitics but you do control your own outlook. If you can’t accept a someday threat but continue living today, then you are losing the battle before you even know if you have to fight. Yes, losing the ability to get through the day is overreacting, even in light of the threat potential. I could give you 6 other things to worry yourself into paralysis about if I wanted to. But you control your own outlook.

Nuclear War in films, like most aspects of life, is extremely over-dramatized. IF, and that's a big If, a country launched a nuke at another, it would not mean an end to the world, or the nations involved.

Nukes are not reality-destroying devices. They will destroy a part of a city. They would destabilize life in that area, but one bomb is far from a global crisis. Your life would remain the same unless you are near the impact site.

Here is one key disaster preparation step you can take, relevant in a nuclear attack as well as storms and civil unrest: Stock up on water. Keep a few milk jugs large containers, clean them out well, and fill them with tap water; Then shut them and put them somewhere cool and out of the way. That's the most essential disaster prep step you can do.

Edit: Milk jugs will biodegrade and may begin leaking within months. A large office cooler-type bottle is a better solution. You'll have to buy it, but it's a relatively small investment.

You better change that water every now and then though.

I looked up the advice I had blindly followed and apparently milk jugs are biodegradable. That's good for the environmentalists, but not for water storage. That said, stored water won't "go bad". It won't even acidize like a glass of water on your countertop.

Pure water, maybe. But I'm pretty sure that if you just put water out of the tap, algæ will grow in it

It's great advice about storing water for an emergency.

Nukes won't burn the world to a cinder, but they will end the world's infrastructure.

Say good bye for probably a longer period to clean water, electricity, healthcare, etc. There is a point to say that the dead will be lucky.

Having said that, there will likely be pockets of livable arras where humanity will survive, but life for the survivors likely will be shitty for a number of decades until things stabilize again

I got you read https://goodgoodgood.co/ 2 articles on Hope:

  1. New study finds hope key to a meaningful life

  2. Hopeful people live better lives (14 year study)

Hope that tomorrow will be better than today and to do today with action solo and with others via collaboration, coordination, logistics, and short-term & long-term thinking to get to that tomorrow.

Read up on the many many benefits for Hope and same for benefits of gratitude, chosen family, friends, & community. All 5 have massively helped my mental health. Overtime as you keep building them up it will help you too. Try to do the same for others when you are able to in near future once you have yourself setup for all those

Read books, videos, etc about each of those things and with each one pause whenever you feel like it and do whatever it says to make it part of your life. Dont chase any of it embrace all of it as now. You are hopeful and grateful right now. You have others no matter what from those and up to internationally with real allies of the people

In the 80s, we had nuclear attack drills in school. In the 50s, suburbanites with a very guilty conscience built fallout shelters in their backyards.

Vote! Then find something else to think about, since apart from voting for sane politicians, there is not much directly you can do to prevent nuclear war.

If this is in response to the capture of Maduro specifically, then yes, you are overreacting. Trump seems to only be interested in being a bully picking on those weaker than him, which excludes nuclear powers.

Well either you move to somewhere you're guaranteed a Nuke won't affect you, or you build a bunker. If you can't do either of those then you accept the fate that you will have no control over anything

Read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stability%E2%80%93instability_paradox

More countries having nukes makes nuclear war less likely

We lived through the Cold War in the '80s. It seemed like a very real threat and eventually even though nothing really changed until the wall came down, everyone kind of got used to it and went on as best we could.

Like we have more recently with Covid. That's still there and hasn't gone away. It's still as serious a threat as it was at the beginning. You know how you'd mostly forgotten about it but not really? Same deal.

If you can't form or find a community, find distractions.

And if you find out where the first bomb's going to hit, let me know because I want to be under it.

Acceptance of mortality. Acceptance that it could happen at any time. And knowing that there are many, many potential causes that are entirely out of one's control.

I don't run around in fear about brain aneurysms.

https://web.archive.org/web/20250425230122/http://thestoicsage.com/dichotomy-of-control/

I'd never actually watched this before but the advice is perfectly reasonable. They're talking about if you're on the periphery of the impact zone to protect against flying debris such as glass mostly, and secondarily against some hot winds. Obviously there are many situations where you're fucked no matter what, but if you do survive you don't want a bunch of neck or torso lacerations from flying glass on top of everything else.

Most countries have some kind of "disaster preparedness" suggestions, be they for earthquakes, floods, tornados, WMDs, etc. A lot of these suggestions overlap: have a stock of food, know where important documents are, think about where you'd shelter, etc.

There will probably not be an extinction-level event. But at some point in your life you may experience an emergency where you need a stock of food, to know where your documents are, to have a place to shelter, etc. So maybe it'd help you out to make plans for what you'd do in case of a general emergency/disaster.

Here are a couple useful documents that were made in the US:

  • https://www.ready.gov/sites/default/files/2021-11/are-you-ready-guide.pdf
  • https://www.fema.gov/pdf/areyouready/basic_preparedness.pdf

Wish I could upvote this five times.

OP, you have an emergency management agency of some kind for your area. They will have all kinds of info on how to prepare for any disaster (and they even know what kinds of disasters are most likely to affect your area).

If you're in the US, try Google county name and emergency management agency or state name emergency management agency. Follow their socials! Check out their webpages! And please please sign up for whatever alerting/notification system they use to update residents on ongoing/evolving events.

The good thing is that I'm too old to go to war and my kids to young for that. Instead we'll be part of the smithereens that you see in the background behind an obviously disturbed reporter. I'll probably be a smudge in pinkish red color.

Come visit Hiroshima Peace Memorial Museum, At least you'll learn what happens...

Except you really don't. Hiroshima was a tiny bomb compared to what's currently aimed at you.

A thermonuclear missile can start a fire storm, that's a fire that creates it's own weather patterns. This fire storm will be the size of a US state. From a single missile.

Each state has dozens of missiles aimed at it, just waiting for the launch order.

The same sort of devastation will hit all of Europe, Russia, China, and basically the entire northern hemisphere.

It doesn't matter if you're in a hardened bunker either, because you'll just cook alive inside. That's if your bunker survives at all, because there's no bunker on earth that can survive a direct hit. Not under the White House, not NORAD, not even most deep mines.

And since every single nuclear power is "launch on warning", we're likely fucked. At any time, we are less than 30 minutes from complete extinction.

But since there's literally nothing we can do about it, I just don't think about it.

The closer you are to the blast, the better. This ensures a quick and painless death. If your'e really frightened of nuclear weapons, rest easy in a flat in a major city. You won't have to suffer any of the scary mutations or side effects of rural folk.

Give away everything you own. Get 3 part time minimum wage jobs. You will then be excited for your pain to end.

Look on the bright side

https://youtu.be/frAEmhqdLFs

Something that has helped me recently:

"The only thing that is guaranteed is that nothing will stay the same."

Ask the folks that we're alive during the cold war. They got the good tips.

(Nihilism was valid)

They told us to get under our desks. I'm not sure that will work...

Play fallout

Yes you are overreacting. What country do you live in? Is there a military facility next door to you?

People will probably not agree with me, but I think:

  1. You are not overreacting, although AI sometimes tells me that risks of nuclear disaster aren't that high and I'm over-estimating.

  2. You can control things somewhat by preparing as much as you can to survive such a situation

But... preparing to try to survive nuclear war will require radical action possibly, especially if you live in a risky area that is more likely to be impacted.

What is preparation? It means getting the Potassium Iodine tablets, it means having food stored, it means having solar backups, ideally it means having a place where you can survive underground, and it means not living anywhere near a likely target. It requires major changes, expenses, and enduring hardship if you are wrong or right, but also feeling exasperated you spent money and wasted time if nothing happens.

I feel like there are two competing ways to look at this situation. 1) The elite control society, and they would not want to make society unlivable for them and their children, therefore nuclear war is an idea primarily to scare us and control us. The other option is 2) no one is steering the ship, the elite are greedy psychopaths and who knows what the hell will happen, and eventually conflict likely is going to happen and it will be ugly.

In World War 2, before Hitler came into power, some Jews in Europe were like "I'm worried about this situation, the political situation here is generally iffy, I'm getting the fuck out of here" and left and went to America... and then didn't die as a result. Fear sometimes is what saves people, even if it seems crazy. I realize immigration to a new place is much harder in today's world (especially to the USA, but in a global conflict, the USA probably wouldn't be a great place to be).

Some advice about moving away from a major city may not be enough. Don't be near a major city, military base, critical infrastructure... and then, that actually will only save you in a limited strike situation. In a worst case situation, everyone near the strikes is dead, and only people far far away survive (not near the countries in conflict), and even those people would struggle with food shortages, radioactive fallout spreading across the globe. Just being in rural America not near bases or cities may not be enough.

You either use that fear to prepare, or you accept that there is a possibility death could happen from a lack of preparation, as can death happen at any time, and take up Buddhism or meditation or religion or ways to carry on and accept that death is sometimes a part of life.

There is a YouTube personality, who also shills products and is sort of an alarmist, called Canadian Prepper. He's worth checking out, but I would shop around and not just buy from him. Many of his videos are informative but also alarmist, but could also one day prove prescient.

I think @DesertCreosote@piefed.blahaj.zone gave you a great breakdown, and I’ll add a little more.

I’ve worked with military technologies before. Unfortunately, I can’t give away many details for relatively obvious reasons. However, I can tell you with absolute confidence that in the case of a ICBM with a nuclear warhead being launched, there is a close to 0 chance it will ever land on Earth. In fact, ICBMs are almost entirely useless technology nowadays.

A nuclear warhead may also be delivered via plane, a la WWII. This too, is largely a nonissue. The odds of a plane getting deep enough into a country while carrying a weapon like that while under the level of surveillance that is currently going on are again, close to 0.

There’s a reason nobody has dropped any Nukes yet. It’s not because anyone is afraid of the consequences. It’s because it’s so close to impossible for it be an actual threat.

With all due respect regarding your desire for discretion, you're going to at least have to make an argument here, rather than an unfounded claim. Why will an attack with ICBMs be unsuccessful?

Yeah, Israel was able to launch a shit ton of Missiles into Iran, and some of the Iranian Missiles hit Israel, even through the Iron dome, the tightest missile defense system in the world.

  1. The tightest missile defense system in the world in public knowledge
  2. The actual system that is used for ICBMs wasn’t activated because these were considered “friendly” missiles by that system.

ETA: 3. Those missiles didn’t have nuclear warheads on them, so the good system wouldn’t have really cared even if they weren’t friendly

(X) Doubt.

Sure, missiles coming in from Iran were probably considered "friendly" by Israel...👍
Yes, the good system will magically discern which of the missiles are nuclear tipped when the time comes.
Also, it won't be missiles raining down once the shit hits the fan. It will be MIRVs. Good luck catching all of those with the secret, ultra capable ABM system that has been deployed to all likely target locations! If you're willing to spend the money, a combination of THAAD, Patriot, and perhaps an Arleigh Burke or two parked off the coast might be able to catch a good number of warheads headed for e.g. NYC or DC but you cannot possibly cover every place in the country all at once.

Considered “friendly” by Israel

Not by Israel, by the system in place for nuclear warheads.

The good system will magically discern…

The system doesn’t have to, the people do. And they’re quite good at it.

If you’re willing to spend the money…

You are absolutely right that resources would have to be moved around. This system, however, is not owned or controlled by a single country. How those resources would get moved around would be way above my pay grade

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Well, I had the realisation that the human race is a cancer to the planet, nukes might just be the chemotherapy the planet needs to survive. I was getting really distraught about the environmental crisis and concluded that nuking everything might be a way out. It gave me an odd sense of peace

The only thing you can do is move away from a major city. and after that you can't do shit. So don't worry about it. it's fine

check out that movie Dead Man's letters. it's really good.