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If you have ANY Canadian ancestor, you are likely a Canadian citizen as a result of recent changes in Canadian law

12d 3h ago by lemmy.zip/u/favoredponcho in youshouldknow

That includes great, great grandparents.

In order to obtain proof of Canadian citizenship, you would need to document your line of descent through historical documents and birth records.

This is real! I'm one of these people and my family is working on assembling the documentation!

Hell yeah get up here bud!

I'm already from Michigan, so I feel right at home in the cold north :) 🍁

Holy shit congrats buddy.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadian-citizenship/act-changes/rules-2025.html

This means that in most cases you’re automatically a Canadian citizen if you were born

  • before December 15, 2025
  • outside Canada to a Canadian parent

This rule also applies to you if you were born to someone who became Canadian because of these rule changes.

I wonder if I, too, could be a citizen by recursion.

That can't be right. That's infinitely recursive...

Canada has only existed since 1867, so not exactly.

So, if I understand this correctly, if I can prove that one of my ancestors was a Canadian citizen, then all their descendants have automatically been made Canadian citizens, including me?

Yes it seems so, but only up to people born before Dec 15 2025. Anyone born after require that their Canadian parent had spent at least 3 years in Canada, in order to also be Canadian

Ugh, just missed it. I was born on the 16th

Welcome in! I'm sorry you're here, now

Inductively so, if they're still alive.

I was hopeful for a moment then realized that my Canadian ancestors would have been British.

If they had status as British subjects domiciled in Canada pre1947, or domiciled in a predecessor colony before Confederation, that would be considered Canadian.

For example, they could have been born in the colony of Nova Scotia before 1867, or they could have moved from the UK to Nova Scotia and, effectively, become British subjects domiciled in Nova Scotia.

It’s worth the deep dive genealogically if you’re seriously considering applying for a certificate of citizenship.

Very interesting. I'll have to look into it. Fortunately, I have family on both sides who were very into family history; they were diehard Mormons.

Even if you and others don’t want to get citizenships in place for yourselves, it would be important to get it in place and document time in Canada, as future generations born after December 15, 2025 will have to have parents who spent 1095 in Canada.

The citizenship law looks back before Confederation.

In fact, Canadian citizenship only came into existence in 1947. Canada has the separate constitutional authority from the 1930s but WW II held up the legislation.

Before 1947, Canadians were British subjects domiciled in Canada.

The law looks back further than Confederation. This was addressed in previous amendments to the Act.

It has to since Canada didn’t have independent citizenship legislation until 1947.

Guess we’re going to be Canada

Not me! My great great great great grandmother died in Quebec, but that's about my only connection to Canada :P

The ice mines of Quebec need more fresh meat.

Am I the only one that read this as an incest joke?

If it's a joke, I don't understand my own joke :P

Anyone want to be my parent? Asking for a friend.

Holy shit, I might be a Canadian citizen!

My genealogy might finally pay off! I have a lot of French Canadians back in my family tree. Now to track down the documents to prove it

For Quebec you can find a lot of birth records here

https://www.genealogiequebec.com/en/

Looks like my 2nd great grandfather was born in Hawkesbury, Ontario in 1881! I think that means I qualify!

Lots of details captured here on how to apply and what forms you need https://www.reddit.com/r/Canadiancitizenship/wiki/index/

Hawkesbury has a really good Taco Bell. Probably didn't in 1881 though.

You’ll want to start here for a birth record.

https://www.archives.gov.on.ca/topic/birth-marriage-and-death/

Thank you!

BanQ is an official archival database from the province of Quebec.

https://www.banq.qc.ca/

The subreddit has information in its ‘How to find Documents’ FAQ.

I like poutine. Will that work?

Depends if you use real cheese curds or shredded cheese.

Do people use shredded cheese?! What the fuck?

The curds at the grocer here are 12USD for an 8oz pack and they don't squeak. I don't blame them, but I wouldn't call it poutine.

They don’t squeak because they have been refrigerated. Heathens!!!

Shredded cheese on poutine is an automatic life sentence without parole.

There weren't no cheese curd purveyors in rural Alberty when I was growin' up 😞. Sometimes ya gotta make due.

It should be the single question on our citizenship test. “Do you put shredded cheese on poutine?” If yes, you get shot on the spot. Sorry, this is Canada, you get hung.

I wouldn't mind being hung. Did you mean hanged?

He forgot a word… they hang you on a goal and you get SLAP shot.

Worst case you also get drafted… for the Ottawa Sens!

Calling it “Canadian Bacon” is an automatic fail.

Shredded cheese?

shredded cheese

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfHrXsGJ8mo

May your gravy forever be too cold to melt the cheese.

fuckin' just tell me im living in Interesting Times why doncha

If you use shredded cheese then it's just cheesy fries, not poutine

What about chopped up string cheese?

Straight to jail.

My brother lives an hour from the border, is that close enough?!?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aroostook_War

If your family has been living in part of that yellow area for a long time, maybe.

Unfortunately no, my bro is a “flatlander” who moved to Vermont 25 years ago or so. I was just kidding. Well, minus the sentiment, I just know I have no shot.

I strongly believe that the yellow should have all been Canadian. It's dumb having to drive over Maine when heading to the east coast if you don't want to go through the US

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadian-citizenship/act-changes.html

What if my ex was 1/4 Canadian? Do I have to re-marry her?

Can I marry your ex? I want out of here.

If she is there and so are the kids, you probably have some kind of path to citizenship or at least residency, even if it is not immediate. Being the parent / guardian of a citizen is something to start with in most places, at least. But only if they are actually there.

If there are no kids involved and you are no longer married, I would guess that you have nothing to work with.

I did my genealogy a couple of summers ago, and found out that my maternal grandmother's family came from Canada to Syracuse for factory work, in the late 19th century.

I am definitely going to be looking into this.

That includes great, great grandparents.

Two of my great, great grandparents (my grandfather's grandparents) were born in Canada. Reading through the law, I'm having trouble identifying exactly where this makes me eligible. Can I ask for a bit of help pointed in the right direction?

I have my birth certificate linking me to my father, his birth certificate linking him to my grandfather. Then US census records linking my grandfather to my great grandmother, and US census records linking her to her (Canadian born) parents. I guess I need to find proof of their Canadian births…

Go read the FAQ on this… you are probably reading some old info. The law changed due to the old law being ruled unconstitutional. You are most likely eligible based on what you’ve stated.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Canadiancitizenship/wiki/index/

What I would do is pay a lawyer in Canada to get their birth certificates.

I would look at the FAQ on finding n documentation in the subreddit.

Family Search and Ancestry will help find Census records, birth certificates and baptismal records (for periods before civil registration which came quite late in several provinces).

Once you know where and when your Canadian ancestors were born, you will be in a good place to get a baptismal record from the appropriate provincial archives.

For this, it’s unlikely that you’ll need a lawyer.

However, if you’re looking for legal expertise, the two most experienced in citizenship by descent (practising in BC and Quebec) were guests on this recent Borderlines Podcast.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadian-citizenship/act-changes/rules-2025.html

Canadians and I both come from chimps does that qualify me for Canadian citizenship \s

nvm... only applies to people born after law took effect.

You don’t seem to understand the effect of C-3 coming into force.

If you were born to or adopted by any parent who can trace a line of descent back to a Canadian by birth or naturalization (or a British subject domiciled in Canada pre1947), then you are probably a Canadian citizen as of December 15, 2025.

For persons born or adopted after December 15, 2025, their Canadian parent born or adopted outside Canada will need to demonstrate 1095 days of presence in Canada prior to their birth or adoption.

Come, friends.

Hey, it's the person that taught me to make paper!

Hey paper person!

I really wish I could.

Hi! Did you make paper yet? Maybe some day.

Yes! Went out that day and got everything for like $20. Still haven't gotten down the transfer from the screen to couch, but that's alright! Honing a skill is like half the fun right?

Totally, and such a cheap hobby. I'm glad you're inspired!

Plus you can just remake all the sheets you fuck up.

I've experimented with so many methods, best I've found for pure plant fibre sheets (if you don't want to spend forever sponging) is to just flip your whole screen with the sheet onto whatever drying surface you use(as long as it's smooth and flat) sponge the back through the screen, wait for it to dry a bit until the paper holds together on its own, then peel the screen off with a butter knife.

I'm sure you'll figure out your own thing, though. Some people just leave them on the screens till dry.

That gives me a good idea! Sponge it during the flip!

Like you get the fibers on the screen, let drain, flip onto drying surface, but before lifting the screen sponge it on the back.

New skill unlocked! :: Pokemon evolution fanfare plays::

Edit: anyone seeing this later, that does not work! You end up pulling fibers into to screen and making it harder to lift up cleanly.

Exactly! Have fun!

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Damn. My wife and I were just talking about this. My Great grandmother was Canadian and I thought it was too far out for me to consider going for citizenship.

You’re probably Canadian, just need to submit for your certificate

Oh, that's interesting. My father had our lineage researched and learned that an ancestor took the side of the British during the USA revolutionary war. He had to move to Canada after the colonies won their independence due to a campaign of harassment in which his barn was burned down.

The most interesting thing about it before now was that someone in my family history had supported the other team. Now it might have actual bearing on my life instead of just being a fun story.

So it’s blood only? My mum was Canadian, but I’m adopted.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadian-citizenship/act-changes/rules-2025.html

If you were born or adopted before December 15, 2025

Citizenship may have been restored or given to people who were born outside Canada in the second generation or later before December 15, 2025.

This means that in most cases you’re automatically a Canadian citizen if you were born

  • before December 15, 2025
  • outside Canada to a Canadian parent

This rule also applies to you if you were born to someone who became Canadian because of these rule changes.

If this change made you a Canadian automatically, but you don’t want to be one, you can apply to give up (renounce) your Canadian citizenship.

Adopted people are likely eligible to apply for Canadian citizenship through a direct grant for adopted people if they were born and adopted outside Canada in the second generation or later before December 15, 2025.

I’m not a lawyer, but I think it is worth investigating further from your end.

This is a straightforward case as long as you were adopted when your mother had citizenship status and the adoption took place before December 15, 2025.

Whether your mum was born in Canada or a Canadian citizen by descent, you’ll need go through a two-step process with some help from your mum.

Step 1 - Your mother’s citizenship status needs to be confirmed by IRCC. When this is done, an identifier will be created so you can complete step 2.

Step 2 - your adoption is documented so that IRCC can provide a grant of citizenship.

Here is the page with the forms - they haven’t all been updated yet to say that the first generation limit doesn’t apply to your parent.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/application-canadian-citizenship-adopted-person.html

I didn't qualify as a kid (which is interesting because one of the things I was considering was moving to Montreal for university which would probably have lead to a very different life than I have now), but the law changes allowed me to later claim citizenship (under the 2009 change, IIRC). There is (or at least was when I did) a fair amount of documentation to write and provide about all your relatives so be ready for that.

I am a 4th generation Canadian. I guess I am safe.

Do you have to apply or is it automatic? If automatic I can see potential for another round of eligibility issues in Australia's parliament coming up - you can't be a member of parliament while holding another citizenship and unknown/forgotten citizenships have caught people out before.

You have to apply as you have to prove that you qualify for the Citizenship (you present your family tree with proofs of births and marriages and whatever is needed to reach that "canadian ancestor"), once it is done, you get a "Proof of Citizenship", that is what will then allow you to apply for Passport, Driving License, jobs... It kinda becomes your "birth certificate". Now, to note, I got this in 2014 due to my mother being born Canadian (and me not) and it took me over a year to get my paperwork (close to two) and there is not a "temporary citizen" status, so you have yo wait until you get it to come to Canada (barring visiting of course). With the influx of submissions that this change will create you can expect those times to increase (unless they open a specific channel for it 🤞).

It is automatic, but you have to apply for the certificate of citizenship.

There are related regulations that have just been published in The Canada Gazette that will enable people to have a simplified process for formal renunciation of Canadian citizenship to Canadian authorities if they believe they may be Canadian citizens by descent.

Neat. My grandfather moved to America from New Brunswick.

I just wanted to add that many countries have similar ancestor laws allowing you to apply for citizenship if you have any roots there. It’s not always easy - but at least you may have an “in” that others would not. So if you think you have a grandfather who immigrated from somewhere or other, look it up and see if you might be able to get on a path to citizenship there. My wife did this earlier this year, and all it took was some paperwork and a visit to a consulate with her parents.

I looked into Greece and the heritages citizenship went away for children born after thr early 80s.

wait what. fuck yes. i have easy access to all of these. original birth certs back four generations. what's this law

The law is The Citizenship Act with Lost Canadians amendments that came into force on December 15, 2025.

The 2023 Bjorkquist decision on Lost Canadians found the first generation limit on citizenship by descent violated the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Parliament passed amendments in bill C-3 in early December.

For persons born after December 15, 2025, their new amendments to the Act will require Canadians born outside Canada to meet a 1095 day presence requirement, but the C-3 amendments effectively do away with the first generation limit on citizenship by descent for persons born or adopted before it came into effect.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadian-citizenship/become-canadian-citizen/eligibility/already-citizen.html

Thank you so much! I have the last 3 generations' birth certs, but it's Gramma Shirley who was born in Canada and it's hers i need (4 generations ago). I know the right city hall to order it from tho. See you in three years or so!

Do you have a source to read more?

Probably the most info is in the Canadian citizenship subreddit FAQ

https://www.reddit.com/r/Canadiancitizenship/wiki/index/

Is there any actual content on that wiki? I'm not seeing any actual content there.

Opens fine for me. You can also go to the subreddit and the FAQ is pinned or you can find it in the sidebar

Oh, I figured it out. They broke their FAQ/wiki for old reddit.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadian-citizenship/act-changes/rules-2025.html

Is it easy to become canadian in general

It's easier than other places if you are skilled, educated or someone that needs protection through refugee application. Canada immigration

How so?

I'm the one asking the questions here

Since you didn't put a question mark, I read it as if it started with "It is". Maybe they made the same mistake. :3

yeah i did thanks for the backup!

indeed you do, my dyslexic dumb mind switched the "is" with the "it" :D

My mom's side of the family is all Cajun, which means they came from France, went to Canada, and then settled in Louisiana (where I was born). Considering how long ago all this happened there is likely exactly zero documentation about this. What can I do?

Here's some details on the bill. The Acadian Expulsion happened about 100 years before Canada became an independent country. So your ancestors would not have been Canadian citizens during the deportation. I am not an immigration lawyer though. There is a contact page on the immigration site, you could just ask them.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/news/2025/12/bill-c-3-an-act-to-amend-the-citizenship-act-2025-comes-into-effect.html

I hadn't actually considered that. That very likely makes me ineligible actually. Thinking about it like that, I doubt any of my ancestors were ever actually Canadian. I'd forgotten about the fact Canada wasn't an independent country yet so they wouldn't qualify and therefore I wouldn't either.

Please read the Canadian citizenship subreddit. You might be eligible still.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Canadiancitizenship/comments/1pspamj/french_acadian/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Canadiancitizenship/comments/1prp2c2/some_information_regarding_the_ongoing_question/

https://www.genealogiequebec.com/ has documents for Acadia with family files based on the original parish records of Acadia and covers from 1621 to 1849.

When I read about this a few weeks ago, there was a requirement that my GM needed to have lived in Canada for 1,095 days to show a cultural connection. Is this no longer a requirement?

That only applies to people born after December 15, 2025, which is when the new law came into effect

No kidding?? That's huge news! Honestly, thank you so much for letting me know!

How familiar are you with the process? Can I ask you if my line qualifies? If so, this is what it looks like: Me -> F -> GM -> GGM. My GGM was born in Canada, GM born in the states in 1935, GGM naturalized in 1942.

I'm very familiar with the Italian citizenship by descent process, so I know the edge cases around that, but not for Canada. Are there any hidden exceptions that would disqualify someone with my line? They happen a lot for Italy.

Honestly, I'm so glad you made this post! If this works, I'll need to thank you from the bottom of my heart!

Yeah, I think you qualify. You can read more here on the CanadianCitizenship subreddit about the process. Lots of people are gathering documents and submitting for proof of citizenship. It’s a good place to ask questions.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Canadiancitizenship/wiki/index/

The edge cases I’ve heard where you wouldn’t qualify were based on an ancestor renouncing their Canadian citizenship on the record when becoming a citizen elsewhere.

A thousand thanks, Poncho, you definitely are my new favorite one <3

What if I speak the Kannada language?

prove it

ನಾನು ಖಂಡಿತವಾಗಿಯೂ ಇದಕ್ಕೆ ಗೂಗಲ್ ಅನುವಾದವನ್ನು ಬಳಸಿಲ್ಲ.

isnt it mostly direct ancestors or at least 1 generation removed.

Very little has been tested yet, but the general thinking is that there's probably no longer any generation cap, except for babies born since the new change went into effect a couple of weeks ago. The real trick is in proving it. From what I have read, the Canadian bureaucracy that processes these has usually asked for primary documentation, so actual birth certificates or centrally maintained religious records, and only once those have been exhaustively searched and the relevant local offices throw up their hands (via an official "we tried" letter) will they consider things like census forms and border-crossing logs.

My relatives from Canada are like 6 or more generations back, is that too far?

Technically no, though you need to show some documentation of that lineage. The most straightforward way would be through birth or baptismal records. Otherwise, some have suggested census and immigration records can work.

You can find a lot of documents on sites like ancestry and similar.

Yeah, it's all documented on ancestry thanks to one of my cousins. This makes me very happy 💜

My stepdad was born in Canada, but he did not adopt me. Bummer.

It’s not too late, you can adopt adults.

Hmm. I could adopt an American for their safety?

Dammit, I knew there was a downside to avoiding people so thoroughly.

Damn. My ancestors lived in northern edge US states. So close...

There was a lot of movement back and forth across the border in the northeast.

All the law requires is one Canadian born or naturalized ancestor. This includes those who were actually British subjects domiciled in Canada or its predecessor colonies.

Holy crap. That's awesome

Ugh... so many of these, and I look around. I know I'm at minimum 4th generation US on both sides of my family.

You should look further back up your tree, especially if you family had settled in New England or New York State.

There were successful claims based on more than 4 generations back under the Interim measure in place while Parliament was considering legislative changes.

The Interim Measure was put in place, to satisfy the court ruling, based on the proposed legislation.

Since the bill wasn’t amended during the Parliamentary process, legal experts expect that the amended law will be applied/implemented consistent with the Interim Measure.

Some of my ancestors came from Nova Scotia but there's no way I could prove it.

Do you obsessively say sorry to people? If yes, you might be a Canadian.

The older I get the more sorry I am, so maybe.

You would be surprised. People have gotten the citizenship certificate without birth records. Recommending that you explore more here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Canadiancitizenship/wiki/index/

Some people there are eager and able to help you find documents too.

I've hopped on ancestry and found my sixth great grandmother from Nova Scotia and her father from New Brunswick. But from what I can gather, that would be a bit too far back and still under British rule.

You are likely still eligible

https://www.reddit.com/r/Canadiancitizenship/comments/1prp2c2/some_information_regarding_the_ongoing_question/

From the wiki

"But my parent/grandparent/great-grandparent/etc. left Canada before January 1, 1947 (April 1, 1949 if your line goes back to Newfoundland) / naturalized as a citizen of another country / married a citizen of another country / served in the military of another country."

Yes, that's true for many of us. That does not matter. You can still get a citizenship certificate.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Canadiancitizenship/wiki/index/

Thank you. I will absolutely be digging further into this!

You can claim on the basis of being British subjects officially domiciled in the colonies that joined Confederation.

You will need baptismal certificates rather than birth certificates as Nova Scotia did not begin civil registration of births until 1908 but the provincial archives will lead you to religious archives that can help.

What if my relatives on my dad's side are Canadian citizens? Can I be included? Pretty please?

Fuck I wish!