All those words but couldn't understand what tariffs mean
1mon 13d ago by discuss.online/u/bytesonbike in leopardsatemyface from discuss.online
This got reported as "not LAMF" on the grounds that this person voted for lower grocery prices and got higher ones. This is an understandable argument, because just getting tricked on its own (even if you're unbelievably stupid to think that things like illegal tariffs and deregulation wouldn't do this) is not LAMF.
So let me explain why I kept the post up and still think it fits: she expressly voted for somebody who promised to cut programs like SNAP which make Thanksgivings affordable for millions of people. She expressly wanted these people hurt – to have their Thanksgivings ruined – because to her, they didn't deserve it.
"I never thought the leopards would make groceries unaffordable for me!"
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Of course it is. Also, you knew better, but you did it anyway.
She didn't knew better because she is dumb though.
I bet someone she knows explained it to her, but rather than let herself be convinced, she doubled down.
Absolutely. She 100% heard the explanation and ignored it because "that's just lies against my big beautiful president," and went on her way. I literally just went through it with my Trump voting uncle. I went through what he did that has directly hurt him. The response? I watch too much news.
Biggest fight I ever "started" with them was... Asking what specifically about Trump 1's tax policy benefit them. I mean I know that I asked it because I knew that they didn't make nearly enough to actually see a single cent of a tax cut from that round in 2017. But apparently his wife really didn't appreciate my asking about it because all I got in response was "Doesn't matter, still voting for him" after she specifically brought up taxes as the reason again mind you. I just asked her what specific benefit they got from his tax cuts. But I heard from my Mom that apparently I made that aunt really mad.
So mad in fact I have literally never seen her since actually come to think of it. They divorced not long after that, she moved to PA and is a fucking gay rights conservative which is fucking wild.
Your uncle?
This is what you call Oppositional Defiance Disorder, plus also being in a death cult.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/oppositional-defiant-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20375831
Even the best-behaved children can be difficult and challenging at times. But oppositional defiant disorder (ODD) includes a frequent and ongoing pattern of anger, irritability, arguing and defiance toward parents and other authority figures. ODD also includes being spiteful and seeking revenge, a behavior called vindictiveness.
These emotional and behavioral issues cause serious problems with family life, social activities, school and work. But as a parent, you don't have to try to manage a child with ODD alone. Your health care provider, a mental health professional and a child development expert can help.
These are adults with an adult version of a pathological vindictiveness that is generally seen in 'problem children'.
They literally are whiny, pissy, adult toddlers.
The aunt is more the ODD one. My uncle was the more recent interaction of "ignoring the facts because they don't vibe with his feelings." Don't ask me how the hell they stayed married as long as they did.
My partner's actually got her degree in behavioral pharmacology because what do you mean you told an autist that actually there are rules you can learn for human social bullshit and it's not all some variation of "because I said so" or "that's how we always did it" and there's also a field within that where I don't even have to really interact with any people? She was going to go super deep into the research route until she learned she was violently allergic to the rats then life just kinda happened from there. Anyway she clocked a lot of that in my aunt after meeting her literally fucking once lmao.
Seeing as I basically no longer consider MAGATs to be truly sentient, much less sapient:
She was going to go super deep into the research route until she learned she was violently allergic to the rats then life just kinda happened from there.
That's the real tragedy here, damn, that fucking sucks.
EDIT:
Uh, anyway, yeah I'm an autist too, don't have a degree in psych or pharma, but I do have pattern recognition, curiosity, analytical skills... and a whole fuckton of (c)PTSD from my own truly astoundingly dysfunctional family.
As in: I ghosted them / went no contact with them so hard that they very probably think I am dead.
As in: I ghosted them / went no contact with them so hard that they very probably think I am dead.
Ayyy High Five for cutting off Toxic POS former family!
So far only my Dad has pissed me off bad enough to go full no contact. My wife had a kid already when she and I met. Now I love my son to bits, and because reasons I had well founded suspicions when my wife and I eventually decided to have another child that my Dad would play favorites. I told him many times in no uncertain terms this would not be tolerated.
So you can imagine my raw seething anger when I overheard him on the phone with my mother ask her "How it felt to finally be a Grandma?" She'd come up to help me with the oldest because the twins were born during the height of covid and he wasn't allowed in the hospital with me. But my wife and I had been together for like 4 years at this point and married for almost 2 and to my Mom's credit she shut him down right quick but I was already seeing Red lmao.
Of course then the dumb bastard had the sheer unmitigated audacity to claim when I texted him my grievances because I cry when I'm angry and I was angrier than I've ever been in my entire life that I wasn't the one saying any of this and that my wife was texting for me. (Because he can't text on his own and his girlfriend has to write all his emails and text messages you see.) So obviously this wouldn't be something that I would actually be angry about and I have to prove that I'm actually there one saying it by calling him so he can dismiss my words and steamroll the conversation.
Here's to peace without the people who cause so much pain! And to the long road of recovery that follows~
God, that reminds me of my family.
I've not had kids, probably never going to, I am at least aware that my model of what a family is supposed to look like is utterly fucked...
But oh dear lord I know that kind of infuriating bullshit, the utter, total disrespect.
Me just reading that story gives me half a mind to perform an unauthorized dental procedure with a blunt object on an uninformed patient, goddamnit...
But, again, this is why I at the very least know that I am not currently ready for taking on responsibilities that... would greatly anger me if they were ... interfered with, disrespected, belittled, etc.
I got a degree in econ, my dumbfuck dad ruined his finances with booze and duis, oh and then apparently, after i ghosted them...
... he retired and bought a fucking house at the actual peak of the housing market.
He raised me on Limbaugh, you see, piqued my interest enough that I went on to study econ. and poli sci.
... and learn that near everything a dittohead believes is fundamentally wrong, misconstrued, or short sighted and lacking the ability to consider systemic complexity.
Oh well. I tried to give him advice, he never listened, despite forcing his "advice" onto me... my career was in database analytics and management, I worked for a world class import export company, wrote software, produced the top level reports for C Suite.
But uh, nope, nope. Dad knows economy better than me.
... At this point, I'm still genuienly planning on taking a sledgehammer to his gravestone, after he dies.
... ... ... assuming he can even afford one.
I'd be curious to find out what all of these "this is not what I voted for" people thought they were actually voting for and why they thought that
They thought abusing brown people would magically fix all the things they told were bad like universal healthcare, feeding children, and safety regulations.
They actually thought things would be cheaper with tariffs because Trump said so. They are hateful morons.
They are not even thinking that deep. They just think handing assholes with power even more power is how to create more prosperity.
They were voting for racism
They voted for things getting cheaper. And not believing that politicians can just make shit up and getting away with it
This^
A lot of them saw the Biden "I did that" stickers blaming him for fuel prices at gas stations, and they believed it.
They saw Trump on Fox News saying that other countries would eat the cost of tariffs because they would rather lose profit than our business, and they believed it.
They didn't see Biden investigate grocers and deny mergers, they didn't see him using the US petro reserves to stabilize prices, they didn't see him pass the many great things on affordability in the Inflation Reduction Act, they didn't see him push affordable alternatives to power and fuel like solar and EVs, they didn't see him allow new drilling sites despite pushback, they didn't see it because whenever it was put in their faces they chose not to see it.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it wasn't just about racism. Sure there are Republicans that are racist but there's still a good percentage of Liberals that are racist too. I think the facts of the matter do indeed matter, and unfortunately that comes with a plethora of misinformation and campaigns designed to target underprivileged voters. Low literacy rates will also exacerbate the divide. I'm so tired of this tirade that because "XYZ" people can't be treated with human decency. I still believe Republicans deserve a good life, as well as immigrants, poor people, and Democrats. Thats literally the point of leftism is to practise distribution of goods on a need basis instead of on merit.
This isn't 2016 anymore. These people voted for him a 3rd time well after he made it very clear what he stood for. Racism is his defining feature.
Getting rid of brown people
Same reason brexit won too right?
It wasn't supposed to hurt them, just other people.
America. And America.
After Covid the recovery was K shaped. So the rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Trump was hammering out covid benefits, which actually helped a lot of people and before that the economy was doing well. A good bit of that was that Obama left it that way and the Republicans were divided enough to stop Trump from being as bad as he is today.
So a lot of them just looked back and saw that they did better under Trump then Biden and voted for Trump.
(Biden tried to do industrial policy, but that takes time, was delayed and money was spend baldy due to corruption. However the general plan was decent.)
Trump promised to lower prices. A complaint after he is in office about rising prices should make it very obvious what those people thought they were voting for.
ok, cool, now stfu and go back to foxnews and church; u must be exhausted after your heroic tweeting.
Is this one of those Russian/Chinese/Nigerian astroturfing accounts?
Those would have reported a 30% decrease in cost for a larger meal, and had their entire bot army retweet it to viral levels. They won't let reality get in the way of the gaslighting their overlords demand.
The russians plays both sides to sow dissemt.
Yes, but no.
I'm sorry, are those Russians writing different things? It's unheard of!
Right? The president said eggs are cheaper. Why would they lie? /s /s
Why would you think that? Such accounts would be trying to make Trump look good.
"this is NOT what I thought I voted for when I knowingly voted to be taxed on all foreign food and to lock up the people picking domestic food" ...Well, then what did you think you were voting for?
when I knowingly voted to be taxed on all foreign food
You're assuming "knowingly". Trump told people tariffs were going to lower costs, falsely claiming that the foreign countries would be picking up that tab. If person X doesn't independently know/learn that tariffs basically never work that way, then the OP reaction makes perfect sense.
This also isn't LAMF at all—LAMF is about supporting something being done, but expecting (without evidence) that it will only be done to Others, and not you. She obviously didn't support raising prices at all—the person you voted for NOT doing as they promised is failing to meet the most fundamental requirement for an LAMF situation.
If she had even half a brain cell, she would know this is exactly what she voted for.
If you had half a brain cell you'd see her account beats up on Trump daily.
"She dumb! Me smart!"
EDIT: Y'all once again prove yourselves to be suckers. Go check that account with some media literacy and skepticism. If I were to make an account to turn MAGA around, not sure I could do better. Really slick! Slick for people who aren't media literate...
I wasn’t the idiot that voted for him.
Read her posts? I did. It's as if she's the perfect plant to pretend to conservatism, yet beats hell out of Trump daily.
Ah fuck me. Believe whatever makes you feel better. That's kinda what we do around here.
I repeat myself:
"She dumb! Me smart!"
…and? She still voted for him.
And there she goes beating up on Trump, like every single one of her other posts. Y'all are not getting this account are ya?
It's almost like a liberal made an account to seem like a conservative to get their views across to the right. Almost. 🙄
$300 for one meal? How many people is she feeding??
Kroger
Oh, so like 5.
Aldi forever. No, it is not the same company as Trader Joe’s if you’re wanting to talk about union busting. I say this because it happens every time.
Dude, we got an Aldi in my town, and I love it. Sure some of the stuff is different, and even has a tad different flavor....but I almost always feel my heart aching with relief when I see how much we get from Aldi with such low prices. My food stamps go so much further there. Thst place is a blessing to me and my family.
You know that it's common for people to feed 10 to 20 people on Thanksgiving, right? Plus there were probably leftovers and I highly doubt there was no alcohol in that purchase, which adds up quickly.
I think serving 20 easily comes to like 700 bucks. We just did it, 20 people over 6 families/ couples and we each only brought 1-3 dishes, but with all the ingredients for sides and desserts, and then drinks and juice and tablecloths and blah blah blah I think each family easily spent 70 and a few of us spent 200. And we're frugal by nature, definitely Aldi shoppers, used real dishes instead of paper. There were plenty of leftovers, so you could argue it's two meals, I guess. I guess it depends on your region, too.
Every Thanksgiving of my childhood involved at least 1 gathering with 20+ family members, no one person in my family ever spent the inflation adjusted equivalent of that on Thanksgiving because it just wasn’t a financial option. Every household brought 1 or 2 dishes so that the host wasn’t responsible for paying to feed everyone, because when you have a large extended family that’s nuts.
I've seen 5 guys praying together with a single woman. Well it looked like she was praying for a few minutes.
"Oh God" is a prayer right? In that cases she was praying again and again and again.
Guys can only pray with 5 guys at one time unless the other guys are praying too with others. Yeah they usually also scream oh god too.
No - actually that's exactly what you voted for - you're just too stupid and/or lazy and/or blinded by hate to realize that, or too dishonest to admit it.
This tweet is essentially:
You promised to lower prices, but prices went up, this is NOT what I voted for.
For it to be LAMF, you have to actually get what you're expecting others to get. The person you voted for NOT doing what they promised to do is literally the opposite of LAMF.
Basically:
I voted for the Leopards Eating Faces party, I never thought they'd...wait, they're not eating anyone's faces
is the equivalent of the situation happening here.
Not LAMF.
You're not wrong. I'd say this post is LAMF adjacent. Not directly LAMF.
I think even 'adjacent' is giving it too much credit.
After all, what's happened is the literal opposite of what they wanted, while LAMF requires that the thing you supported happening is what happens, you just thought it'd happen to others and not you.
Trump promised to do tariffs. People assumed other countries would pay the cost so that was good. It turns out they are paying the cost.
It would be straight up LAMF if the tariffs were front of mind when they voted. But inflation was what they were most concerned with, and they either didn't pay attention to Trump's tariff talk or assumed it wouldn't be them paying the tariffs... you could say it's not directly LAMF because people don't understand the connection between higher tariffs and higher prices, but definitely LAMF adjacent because of the widespread assumption that people in other countries would be paying the tariffs, not them.
LAMF lies in the 'victim's expectation not being met, with respect to who the thing they supported is happening to. What they support and what happened must match; the LAMF lies solely in the 'I assumed it (what was supported/done) wouldn't happen to me'.
I think that to make an adequate determination of that, we would have to know what they did vote for.
Sure, we can infer it's probably not a higher grocery bill, but that's what they didn't vote for.
We need to know what they did vote for and whether it relates to the situation at hand.
Since their motives for voting how they did are impossible to know from this individual post, we would be unable to make an adequate judgement call as to how LAMF, or LAMF adjacent this might, or might not be.
So everything we're saying now is conjecture and opinion.
If you think about it on a bigger scale, it still is her getting what she expected others to get. The Trumpian/fictional definition of tariffs claims that other countries will now "pay their fair share". Which is utter bullshit because the companies have always passed on as much of the cost of a tariff as the market will bear, if they can afford to absorb any at all. In interviews they are STILL repeatedly pretending like other countries are paying the tariffs and the rise in costs has nothing to do with them.
Anyways, she expected other countries costs to go up, not hers. Classic leopard eating face, imo.
Yes it is piggy.
Bitch you voted for tariffs! Every expert said that would raise prices, but you refused to listen to experts! This is what you fucking get! Why did you have to drag us down with you!?
This is what you voted for. You were just not listening.
Well gosh, I feel sad that you had absolutely no warning that something like this could happen.
Two in the thoughts, one in the prayers.
Waahhh... Cry harder magat.
We are all crying, brother in Christ
Too true.
I'm not sure how legit that account is. I'm not on Twitter, but I've definitely seen that handle at the top of a few other "magat gets their comeuppance" reposts.
We told ya' so.
She voted for the racism. Not the taxes.
...if you voted for Trump, this is exactly what you voted for...if you voted for Trump a second time, this is exactly what you voted for...if you voted a third time for Trump, this is precisely what you voted for...don't lie, don't deceive, just don't...
Oops, you said bad things about Dear Leader. Elmo will be suspending you soon for lying about patriotism, and the DOJ is preparing terrorism charges.
Reality is the president doesn't, or more accurately, shouldn't control the economy.
...Perhaps utterly worshipping one man was not the best idea? As history has repeatedly shown?
Oh boy, history repeatedly shows how everything goes south.
This mantra of individual responsibility is getting the US nowhere. Billionaires learned how to work collectively while one half of Americans blamed the other half for the problems the billionaires invented. Get your shit together and stop blaming your neighbor
I meant indviduals more than individualism.
This feels like religious worship, or influencer worship, to me. At least for some people I've observed.
What do you think happens when a candidate receives enormous financial support and is somewhat charismatic? It's not these people who complain about the groceries to blame.
I feel like some of the people here should consider why we all know she would vote the same way if an election was held immediately after making this post.
They are getting something that they desire more than lower grocery costs or anything sane things any sane person would value.
They are getting to hurt marginalized people with their votes.
This is their single voter issue, and its the reason why no matter how much they've shot themselves in the foot, they'll buy that 500 dollar advil their insurance denied coverage for and load up another shell.
They don't evaluate politicians based on if they're happy. They evaluate politicians based on if who they hate feel sad.
I feel like some of the people here should consider why we all know she would vote the same way if an election was held immediately after making this post.
Because, except for a minute percentage, all of you vote team color, no matter what.
That minute percentage gets to be finger-wagged at for not wanting to vote for a party that is enthusiastically supporting a genocide killing their family and friends abroad, or sitting idly by while fascism takes root here in the US, or ignoring that basic living is becoming unaffordable. Because, totally, why should anyone expect that working full time pays for rent, utilities, health care, AND groceries?
You can not want to do something and still recognize that abstaining from that vote is against the best interests of those who will be harmed if the wrong people end up gaining power. I sure didn't like voting for Kamala. But I'm smart enough to realize that was the best option I had.
Tbf the only reason "she was our best option" is because so many people fall into the two party trap and absolutely refuse to organize and vote for a third party candidate despite having tools to organize better than any time in history. That "but muh two parties" attitude from all of you is a larger part of what's holding us back than any of you realize.
Btw, to all of you asking "where are the third party people outside of election season" and saying "right now we have to vote to extend genocides, talk about change after" well you just downvoted the one above us 8 times, as every time one posts you must enforce the two party system even during the time you previously deemed it "ok" (no elections going on that I'm aware of).
I'd have a lot more respect for Democrat voters if they'd stop lying about it. You don't wish there was a third option, you strike down conversation about it unilaterally, you like the two party system at least enough to perpetuate it instead of even look for or consider another option. Just admit you like the democrats and while I may disagree at least you're being honest with yourselves and others.
Or y'know maybe instead of being a crab in a bucket, be a drop in the bucket of change, every person who votes outside the two party system is one more drop closer to ending the two party system (or at least changing which "two parties" are the big ones, which would still be a step.)
It really doesn't matter at the federal level how you vote. Both parties have a stranglehold on Washington and they will until there's a nationwide cataclysm of some sort.
The only power any of us has is local, and you can do a fuckton of good in your neighborhood if you're just willing to spend a few minutes doing so.
That's the exact defeatist attitude I'm talking about, rather than even try to do anything at the federal level that might spark any change, just accept it, it won't change until the volcano under Yellowstone kills us all and we might as well perpetuate it for drama.
Doing local shit is good too, but if that's how you feel about the national level you may as well just not vote, since it's inevitable anyway.
But at least quit lying to yourselves and the rest of us, next time someone supports a third party don't say "I agree we need change, but it's not the time to talk about this.." say "it's useless, there is no change, give up hope, stop trying, there's never a time to talk about this."
but if that’s how you feel about the national level you may as well just not vote, since it’s inevitable anyway.
You're right, and that's becoming increasingly clear, which is why millions more skipped Election Day in 2024 rather than miss a badly-needed days pay. That's not their fault nor mine, but it is reality. There is no reason to vote when both parties do exactly the same shit.
It's going to become even more clear after the 2026 elections when the major provisions of the BBB kick in and the new international trade deals, rerouting supply chains around the US instead of through it, come into play.
Unless you're a billionaire, you have no power outside your zip code.
Good, at least you're honest about it. While I may disagree and think even a protest vote is better than a protest-nonvote, and that if everyone organized behind a third party then it'd go a long way to (if the election then gets stolen blatantly by the two) having a more organized structure for resistance in place, at least you're not one of the people I'm talking about who just buries their head in sand in support of the "lesser" instead burying your head in the sand in support of nihilism, which is better.
But I’m smart enough to realize that was the best option I had.
No.
You, like them, are just a-okay with swallowing excuses. That or you're one of the folks fortunate enough that your only concern is making it to brunch. The rest of us pay for our groceries, medical bills, power bills, and rent and know full well just how evil the lesser evil was in this election.
Why didn't i think of voting for the non-existent awesome choice in the last election? Voting for non-existent awesome choice would've solved all of our problems!
There was a good choice in the primaries: Marianne Williamson. You guys decided you wanted the brain dead old guy.
She was even opposed to starving Palestinian kids, but I guess that wasn't a big enough selling point.
A con man conned you and bankrupted the country that’s exactly what you voted for 3 times
Fun Fact, since executive orders really only apply to the operations of the federal government and its employees, the Tariffs aren't actually legal.
Big shipping magnates and importers could probably sue the federal government over any attempt to enforce the tariff, ignoring them all the while.
but why bother with that when you can just pass the costs onto the consumer
And they can also always pivot and pretend to be the hero later when it suits their needs, no downside solution.
Better yet they can keep the prices even after the costs go down.
Same dinner two years in a row, this is some true conservative vibe !
And don't be suprised if a lot of packages contain less than last year
Mr. President, this is NOT what I voted for.
"Karma is an ancient Indian concept that refers to an action, work, or deed, and its effect or consequences.... [It's] often descriptively called the principle of karma, wherein individuals' intent and actions (cause) influence their future "
In the Bible it sez something like "As you vote, so shall you reap!"
Mr. President, this is NOT what I voted for.
Yes it is. This is exactly what you voted for. Trump 1 told you exactly how Trump 2 was going to go. We're all eating shit, but I am happy your shit sandwich is slightly more unpalatable to you.
I have read about the Walmart meal being this year cheaper and a certain someone flexing about it. But actually it was less items and "Great Value" branded.
We're gonna drive future historians mad
Fucking morons think one of the wealthy coastal elites has their back just because he points out that they exist.
Let's be real, if the media called import taxes "import taxes" and not "teriffs" Trump's import tax campaign would've much more rapidly collapsed
But I was told prices are going down, they're the lowest they've been since his first term. It's all Joe Biden's fault. And transexuals.
And Big Brother has generously raised the chocolate ration to 20 grams.
American? Or... Bangladeshi, Indian Kenyan, or maybe Russian?
It's a curious thought. Is there any strategic advantage for bot farms to flip sides? If it was in the operator's best interest to push Trump narratives before, why flip now? I get the sense that the few speaking out against him are legitimate. Or maybe I just hope so.
I'll be honest - that's less of an increase than I was expecting.
doesn't account for shrinkflation on the products though
patriotic but doesn't want to support american business?
that's called being a dumb bitch, and you can quote me on that
Why you shopping at Kroger dumbass?
ThePatrioticBlonde
:3
The point stands, but is this a real account?
Once again, lemmy believes whatever fits the zeitgeist around here.
"HAHA stupid conservative!"
3 of 4 of her posts are baggin' on Trump and the state of the US under him.
But she still voted for him despite that track record of baggin'?
But . . . Haha. Conservatives are stupid.
They were lied to about tariffs, just like you Democrats were lied to about student loan relief and living wages.
Both of you act aghast when you get exactly what you voted for.
The last time the democrats were in office they did absolutely everything they could for student debt relief. They were blocked at every step by Republicans.
Ehh, there was the parlamenterian that blocked student debt relief: https://thehill.com/opinion/education/550677-change-in-reconciliation-rules-takes-pressure-off-biden-to-forgive-student/
You just sat through the last nine months and you honestly believe that?
Everything they could do?
More like they made every excuse they could possibly make.
You are mistaken or lying to yourself.
You’re not going to catch me simping for the DNC but just lying is a pretty useless thing to do, FlashMob.
It's not lying to expect Democrats to fight as hard for doing the things they promise as the Republicans are fighting to drive us to full-on fascism.
And you making excuses for it is absurd after watching what's happened in the US for the last nine months. Democrats always had all the power they needed. They just didn't care about anything other than enriching themselves.
Yeah, I feel like I've always been told, "the president doesn't actually have that much power" and that they could try hard for four years and accomplish maybe one or two things. Turns out no president before the current one was trying very hard.
Me thinks not…20% increase y/y is a lie…